Well, here's a few choice quotes from that TV Tropes politics forum I linked for you guys:
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We're in a racist society, so there is no major party that is 100% free of racism. But Democrats are the ones who recognize systemic racism and support fighting it, the only point of contention is how far we should go. There is no useful definition of "racist party" that covers the Democrats."
"It makes sense if you think of Trump as ideologically aligned with the "coal roller" mindset: the people who pollute not because it's economically advantageous but because they see it as giving the middle finger to the environmentalism movement.
Most of the people he's hired to positions of economic influence in his government are not part of the auto or manufacturing industries, but directly beholden to Big Oil, which alone benefits from cars being less fuel-efficient.
I saw an analysis of the phenomenon in a recent video about why electrification of the auto industry is so bitterly resisted by those same interests. Every day that the replacement of internal combustion vehicles is delayed is something like $1.5 billion in their pockets. Of course they'll do everything they can to push back."
"I don't think we have to worry too much about "extreme leftism" turning off voters. If you're committed to voting for Trump, nothing Biden says is going to persuade you, and if you aren't, the worst that'll happen with a more progressive candidate is that you'll stay home and your vote will be traded for someone farther left who wouldn't vote for Biden.
At this point, if you think that universal healthcare is an extreme position, you are probably lost. If you have genuine concerns about the mechanics of how it would be implemented and/or paid for, then that makes you a
rational voter, and it's possible to reach you with rational arguments.
What worries me more than anything is how desperately the media will reach to portray the eventual Democratic candidate as "extremist" in an effort to maintain the perception that the election is close and drive up ratings thereby."
"I don't mean that the Democrats are as actively racist in their policy as the Republicans, but less so.
I also certainly don't mean that the Democrats are as racist as the Republicans, but less open about it.
What I did mean is that because of the nature of US (and indeed 'Western') culture and history, any group that has a majority of old white guys is going to have a contingent of people who are, not openly, but certainly privately, somewhat racist. The Democratic party's leadership is, for now, still majority old white guys and still affects overall party policy. That's changing, but we're not there yet.
To paint the Republicans, who are dominated and dictated by the sensibilities of old white guys, as racist is accurate. But to paint the Democrats as
not racist so long as its leadership is still majority white and males who grew up before and during the early days of the Civil Rights movement isn't.
And the reason I feel it's important to keep this in mind and point it out isn't that I feel that the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans (they're definitely not) or even that they're bad at all, but that if you label the Democrats as they are now 'not racist', that implies that the often naive, paternalistic racism that still informs the Democratic Party's policies in the present isn't 'real' racism.
We've tried that before... That was sorta the entire 'Western' world's cultural approach to racism in the 80's through to the 00's. Which led to the rise of the 'race realists' who think they're not 'real' racists because rather than espousing the blind, obvious racism we see
in media they back their racism up with (bullshit) statistics and of Alt-Right memelords who think they're not 'real' racists because rather than the aforementioned blind racism, all their racism is in the form of memes and 'jokes' (that aren't actual jokes)."
"It's insidious branding that Trump represents the working class and laborers of America, which is something he desperately works to portray himself as. It distracts from the fact he is a white supremacist (a little) and the servant of rich special interests in America that severely hurt the poor. It's a sleight of hand designed to make people vote for him against their own interests."
"The Antifa makes me uneasy - too many times they choose brickbats over rationality. But when their opponents are the sort who want to bring back Concentration Camps and Racial Supremacy and Discrimination, I can't blame them for the reaction.
Black and Gray Morality in it's actual form."
"That's mostly black bloc tactics, and frankly, while those tend to be the headline-grabbers because they're the easiest to condemn, technically any action taken to oppose fascist ideology is 'anti-fascism.' But we're not talking about organized cells of independent operators ala a terrorist movement, but it's just easy to use that imagery as a scare tactic because by and large, the Western public has been extremely well-conditioned to oppose those kinds of movements. "
"The main difference I think is between living in a network of communities with a small government and living in a network of individuals with a small government. Right-wing libertarianism holds this romantic vision of semi-autonomous ranchers who are mostly self-sufficient when it comes to resources and defence (even they admit trade would be a thing) - and that the magic hand of the free market would always fill in where the state currently provides, whereas left-wing libertarianism is more like a patchwork society of communes and/or co-ops where every individual cell is democratically run and there'd probably be trading between specialised co-ops eg agricultural and industrial co-ops or manufacturing and service co-ops. "
Seriously, you can practically hear them stroking their own egos and worship of all things extremely left-leaning. Like, they think that all things ultra-left as good and all things to the right are stupid and evil and must be opposed.
If you want, I can find more.
tvtropes.org
