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REGENDarySumanai said:
They still haven't hired anyone to fix their frankenwiki's code. Even I wouldn't touch that shit.
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You're a wise man.

I tried "hacking" my own copy of PmWiki, and *shudder*, it sucks.

MediaWiki has skins and extensions that fit into their own folders and thus are able to edit by themselves. Dokuwiki uses a similar premise, and many other wikis typically tend to add new features in their own folder or file so as to not disturb the other files, hooking them into the stock settings and overriding certain ones, allowing you to easily remove them later.

PmWiki does NOT do this.

Instead, you are copy-pasting RAW CODE into the same files that power the stock engine, and worse, often overwriting certain stock files or parts of them, so if you fuck it up, either you backed it up prior or you have to fix it by hand, and if you are a dumbass coder, or even if you a decent one, God help you if there are many intricate changes to fix.

Worse, if your setup is already heavily modded, the breakage gets WORSE to fix with time.

My friend Brent has spoken with Patrick McChaud, the guy who invented PmWiki, and even he admitted it was good for it's time but has aged horribly and could have been implemented better, and truthfully, it was NEVER meant to support a wiki of the size of TV Tropes.
 
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Have you ever been turned off by something based on the way TVTropes talks about it. Like I thought Persona 5 would be a really edgy game that tries too hard based on how TVTropes treats it but I ended up enjoying it afterwards.
 
iafiv said:
Methinks some tropers don't understand the difference between the original text and whatever 'artsy' cough dumb cough adaptations some hack producers made onetime.
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Unless it's Titus Andronicus, which really is that fucked up.
 
Truthboi said:
Have you ever been turned off by something based on the way TVTropes talks about it. Like I thought Persona 5 would be a really edgy game that tries too hard based on how TVTropes treats it but I ended up enjoying it afterwards.
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:powerlevel: Tried that with High School of the Dead. Too much praising for Zombies and Anime titties, yet still dropped on the second episode for feeling that shit is the textbook definition of "Trying Too Hard".
 
Truthboi said:
Have you ever been turned off by something based on the way TVTropes talks about it.
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No, for three reasons: 1) I have a mind of my own and the ability to think for myself and draw my own conclusions on what's good and what isn't., 2) I don't know what they're talking about most of the time, and 3) They gloss over and ignore stuff I like (which is a lot of old movies and classic literature. They do okay covering the cartoons and video games of my childhod, but I'm old enough to remember seeing and playing them, so I can assess whether or not it's worth revisiting).
 
Asa_Spades60 said:
No, for three reasons: 1) I have a mind of my own and the ability to think for myself and draw my own conclusions on what's good and what isn't., 2) I don't know what they're talking about most of the time, and 3) They gloss over and ignore stuff I like (which is a lot of old movies and classic literature. They do okay covering the cartoons and video games of my childhod, but I'm old enough to remember seeing and playing them, so I can assess whether or not it's worth revisiting).
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According to some people I've spoken to, they really, really suck at foreign media, even Japanese anime and manga, generally assuming tropes and cliches in advance and in the process mangle a ton of actual information, which is buried under troper jargon, compounding the issue.
 
GethN7 said:
According to some people I've spoken to, they really, really suck at foreign media, even Japanese anime and manga, generally assuming tropes and cliches in advance and in the process mangle a ton of actual information, which is buried under troper jargon, compounding the issue.
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If tropers were really conversant about Japanese cartoons, the shitstorm known as Nakama wouldn't have happened.
 
Sun Shihong said:
:powerlevel: Tried that with High School of the Dead. Too much praising for Zombies and Anime titties, yet still dropped on the second episode for feeling that shit is the textbook definition of "Trying Too Hard".
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It had a decent bit of homage to George Romero and some cool ideas (I did appreciate how they examined the sword vs. gun usefulness against the undead, that was a nice touch), but the rest was just non stop tits and ass, and that got old pretty quick.

Positron said:
If tropers were really conversant about Japanese cartoons, the shitstorm known as Nakama wouldn't have happened.
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That was cringey. True Companions was a good compromise and should have been the original name for the trope to start with.

I had my weeaboo phase, like most tropers, but I quit that shit when I became an adult, which I regret is likely not true of most tropers old enough to drive.
 
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Truthboi said:
Have you ever been turned off by something based on the way TVTropes talks about it. Like I thought Persona 5 would be a really edgy game that tries too hard based on how TVTropes treats it but I ended up enjoying it afterwards.
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Never take TV Tropes' word on anything. If you think there is a caveat on this, there is none. ANYTHING.
 
GethN7 said:
That was cringey. True Companions was a good compromise and should have been the original name for the trope to start with.
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This honestly sums up way more issues with previous trope names that it should. The name was never meant to cater to weeabooism, instead being as good a description of the trope in as few words as possible to the general audience at large. The general expectation is that few words in foreign languages ('foreign' being relative to the version of the wiki of course) are considered unavoidable, so 9 times out of 10 you can easily find a native language version to go with for clarity's sake.
 
GethN7 said:
According to some people I've spoken to, they really, really suck at foreign media, even Japanese anime and manga, generally assuming tropes and cliches in advance and in the process mangle a ton of actual information, which is buried under troper jargon, compounding the issue.
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Who knew that autistics suck at processing something in a foreign language?
 
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/TheSandlot pretty funny reading how seriously tropers are taking the famous 'infamous(??)' kissing scene from the movie.The most interesting part is how consent when it comes to sex has become a very serious issue even for kids.I do wonder is that completely true though?Would Squint today end up on the sex offender list even if he's just 11-12?It would be interesting.I mean how young can you be and still be lectured about sexual consent?Because that sounds a bit harsh for a dummy that in the movie jumped in the pool risking drowing for a very dumb stunt.
 
iafiv said:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/TheSandlot pretty funny reading how seriously tropers are taking the famous 'infamous(??)' kissing scene from the movie.The most interesting part is how consent when it comes to sex has become a very serious issue even for kids.I do wonder is that completely true though?Would Squint today end up on the sex offender list even if he's just 11-12?It would be interesting.I mean how young can you be and still be lectured about sexual consent?Because that sounds a bit harsh for a dummy that in the movie jumped in the pool risking drowing for a very dumb stunt.
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I love it when fat autists who will never kiss anything else than their blow-up dolls start preaching me about consent.
 
iafiv said:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/TheSandlot pretty funny reading how seriously tropers are taking the famous 'infamous(??)' kissing scene from the movie.The most interesting part is how consent when it comes to sex has become a very serious issue even for kids.I do wonder is that completely true though?Would Squint today end up on the sex offender list even if he's just 11-12?It would be interesting.I mean how young can you be and still be lectured about sexual consent?Because that sounds a bit harsh for a dummy that in the movie jumped in the pool risking drowing for a very dumb stunt.
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Children DO end up on the sex offender registry today, but that is for serious infractions, like ACTUALLY HAVING SEX WITH ANOTHER CHILD. Note, I think putting a child on the sex offender registry is the stupidest thing in the world. However, simply kissing a girl without their consent would not nearly be treated with that amount of severity except from SJWs, even today. Because people understand they are just kids.
 
WhatNemesisMeans said:
I love it when fat autists who will never kiss anything else than their blow-up dolls start preaching me about consent
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Or anything else about sex. If I wanted total incompetents to lecture me about the birds and the bees, I'd go back to sixth grade sex-ed in an American public school.

And here's your daily recommended dosage of cringe: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/OneThousandWaysToDie

I recommend reading the Tearjerker page and the main page.
 
iafiv said:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/TheSandlot pretty funny reading how seriously tropers are taking the famous 'infamous(??)' kissing scene from the movie.The most interesting part is how consent when it comes to sex has become a very serious issue even for kids.I do wonder is that completely true though?Would Squint today end up on the sex offender list even if he's just 11-12?It would be interesting.I mean how young can you be and still be lectured about sexual consent?Because that sounds a bit harsh for a dummy that in the movie jumped in the pool risking drowing for a very dumb stunt.
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I thought this was going to be over the "You play ball like a GIRL!" line, but it turns out to be something even stupider.
 
Star Wars autism + TDS:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/review_comments.php?id=17548

http://archive.is/Jv6NU

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