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[Replicant Sasquatch]

We definitely have creeps in the UK who do the same thing. It's probably more common in Japan because it's easier to get away with it in the tightly packed carriages, but it certainly isn't socially acceptable to do it. There was a high profile case a few years ago where a man was accused of groping women and faced prison time if convicted. He was eventually acquitted after 5 years in and out of the courts.

Meanwhile...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8107039.stm



Waiting on the Values Dissonance article for South Africa. Of course, it will never come, for reasons mentioned earlier in this thread.

Nah South Africa is fair game because it fits the Evil Whitey narrative.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Nah South Africa is fair game because it fits the Evil Whitey narrative.

Probably, but I don't think there is an article on values dissonance in South Africa. They don't seem to talk about it much, on the wiki at least. Maybe they do on the forums.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Probably, but I don't think there is an article on values dissonance in South Africa. They don't seem to talk about it much, on the wiki at least. Maybe they do on the forums.

Most likely they don't talk about it at all. They only care about cartoons, anime, and shallow liberal political discourse in the US and Western Europe.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Most likely they don't talk about it at all. They only care about cartoons, anime, and shallow liberal political discourse in the US and Western Europe.

Anime is just Japanese for cartoons. They're the same thing. Bronies are "anime otaku" in Japan, and, yes, they unfortunately do have bronies there as well.

Are there any Eastern European tropers? Progressivism isn't very popular anywhere much east of Germany, so they wouldn't have the same politics. Maybe they just steer clear of the political discussions and stick to cartoons.

 

[ure_mum]

Anime is just Japanese for cartoons. They're the same thing. Bronies are "anime otaku" in Japan, and, yes, they unfortunately do have bronies there as well.

Are there any Eastern European tropers? Progressivism isn't very popular anywhere much east of Germany, so they wouldn't have the same politics. Maybe they just steer clear of the political discussions and stick to cartoons.

I've seen some stuff under the Real Life section that give the impression there are probably a few Eastern-Yuro posters, but those are fairly rare. If you see any trope about or referencing Russia/the Soviet Union, then those will probably have IRL locals providing some examples on whatever the subject is. But I also think they just steer clear of the political discussion, TVT isn't really a place for it, especially since as you said, it's gonna be widely different from the mainstream.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

But I also think they just steer clear of the political discussion, TVT isn't really a place for it

Someone should tell the Tropers that because it's obvious none of them got the memo.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

Does it exist as a Hetalia character? I don't know much about that heap of cancer other than there was an episode that implied the Allies made up the Holocaust and Japan's war crimes were gleefully ignored. Does it have any black characters at all? If it's about World War 2 then Italy could enslave Ethiopia in the prequel.

Don't take cartoon spergs as the mainstream Japanese view, though. There are other works, like the book and film series The Human Condition from the 1950s-1960s, which take a very critical view of Japan's role in the war. I believe the writer of the original Gundam cartoon was critical as well, though he never directly tackled the issue in his work.

Don't tell me you took Hetalia seriously

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Don't tell me you took Hetalia seriously

This is purely second hand hearsay based on this old reddit post I read years ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/1vvszn/bad_history_in_hetalia_first_episode/

Some of the comments mention the things I said.

It sounded rubbish, so I never watched it. I know it's not serious, but it sounds like such a lazy pile of crap it's still offensive.

 

[The Decimator]

Look who I saw on MrEnter's Dethroning Moment page.

• Regulas 314: His atrocity of Seth Mac Farlanes Cavalcade Of Cartoon Comedy to me felt like the guy was just trying way too hard to be negative to every little detail he saw. From the second segment "A Scotsman Who Can't Watch A Movie Without Shouting at the Screen", his anger reached levels far beyond how he acted in any other atrocity review. From that moment he stayed consistently angry, getting progressively more frustrated and unreasonably loud with each segment; which I don't think even the mediocre segments deserved. While the review did have some good jokes and introduced me to things like Dorkly and a new Voltaire song, the review itself is marred by the fact that he gets so angry he starts slurring and you can barely understand the guy; nevermind the fact that he's incessantly screaming over every single segment drowning out all of the dialogue. Actually, his anger wards the Scotsman segments seemed hypocritical on his part considering he basically does the same stuff when he reviews cartoons! Almost like he's trying to compensate for his own inadequacy. He threw away every little bit of dignity he had in this review and broke his promise of keeping himself in check with his anger in the worst way possible.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Look who I saw on MrEnter's Dethroning Moment page.

• Regulas 314: His atrocity of Seth Mac Farlanes Cavalcade Of Cartoon Comedy to me felt like the guy was just trying way too hard to be negative to every little detail he saw. From the second segment "A Scotsman Who Can't Watch A Movie Without Shouting at the Screen", his anger reached levels far beyond how he acted in any other atrocity review. From that moment he stayed consistently angry, getting progressively more frustrated and unreasonably loud with each segment; which I don't think even the mediocre segments deserved. While the review did have some good jokes and introduced me to things like Dorkly and a new Voltaire song, the review itself is marred by the fact that he gets so angry he starts slurring and you can barely understand the guy; nevermind the fact that he's incessantly screaming over every single segment drowning out all of the dialogue. Actually, his anger wards the Scotsman segments seemed hypocritical on his part considering he basically does the same stuff when he reviews cartoons! Almost like he's trying to compensate for his own inadequacy. He threw away every little bit of dignity he had in this review and broke his promise of keeping himself in check with his anger in the worst way possible.

Mr Enter was ever on a throne?

 

[Positron]

Mr Enter was ever on a throne?

You tell me you're surprised?

 

[8waifoofever8]

Mr Enter was ever on a throne?

Hi Regulas. :3 (I really need to give this guy a break...)

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

Look who I saw on MrEnter's Dethroning Moment page.

• Regulas 314: His atrocity of Seth Mac Farlanes Cavalcade Of Cartoon Comedy to me felt like the guy was just trying way too hard to be negative to every little detail he saw. From the second segment "A Scotsman Who Can't Watch A Movie Without Shouting at the Screen", his anger reached levels far beyond how he acted in any other atrocity review. From that moment he stayed consistently angry, getting progressively more frustrated and unreasonably loud with each segment; which I don't think even the mediocre segments deserved. While the review did have some good jokes and introduced me to things like Dorkly and a new Voltaire song, the review itself is marred by the fact that he gets so angry he starts slurring and you can barely understand the guy; nevermind the fact that he's incessantly screaming over every single segment drowning out all of the dialogue. Actually, his anger wards the Scotsman segments seemed hypocritical on his part considering he basically does the same stuff when he reviews cartoons! Almost like he's trying to compensate for his own inadequacy. He threw away every little bit of dignity he had in this review and broke his promise of keeping himself in check with his anger in the worst way possible.

Isn't that how all his videos go?

 

[Asa_Spades60]

Mr Enter was ever on a throne?

Well, a toilet is often called a "throne" (a porcelain one at that).

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Well, a toilet is often called a "throne" (a porcelain one at that).

So you could say Enter was discommoded.

 

[GethN7]

Someone should tell the Tropers that because it's obvious none of them got the memo.

We at All The Tropes figured that was a good idea from the very beginning. A lot of us debated whether to incorporate a forum like TV Tropes, and decided, at best, keep it centered on site specific topics. We figured we could talk about politics at other places anyway.

Above all, we were desperate to avoid the forum becoming an entity unto itself if we did have one, because then it would be the tail wagging the dog like it does on TV Tropes, where wiki denizens can sometimes go their whole time without knowing or caring about the forum and vice versa, until the times when the two intersect, like when a random purge of content happens because a forum discussion, the memo fails to get out to the wiki side of things in time, and then you have tons of arguing, bitching, and fingerpointing.

If memory serves, the massive purge in 2012 started out like this, and that's why so many wiki users got mad, especially when Fast Eddie took an axe to stuff without telling anyone at first, and it took awhile before they fixed that oversight, and by then, everyone was worked up.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

We at All The Tropes figured that was a good idea from the very beginning. A lot of us debated whether to incorporate a forum like TV Tropes, and decided, at best, keep it centered on site specific topics. We figured we could talk about politics at other places anyway.

Above all, we were desperate to avoid the forum becoming an entity unto itself if we did have one, because then it would be the tail wagging the dog like it does on TV Tropes, where wiki denizens can sometimes go their whole time without knowing or caring about the forum and vice versa, until the times when the two intersect, like when a random purge of content happens because a forum discussion, the memo fails to get out to the wiki side of things in time, and then you have tons of arguing, bitching, and fingerpointing.

If memory serves, the massive purge in 2012 started out like this, and that's why so many wiki users got mad, especially when Fast Eddie took an axe to stuff without telling anyone at first, and it took awhile before they fixed that oversight, and by then, everyone was worked up.

I don't understand why you bothered to make a copy of TV Tropes. A wiki about how stories are put together could be interesting, but it's best done with explanations written in plain English, not with lists of code named things which mostly aren't even real tropes. Literary tropes are language devices like metaphors and analogies, not a "Badass Longcoat" or a "Big Lipped Alligator Moment" (seriously, what the hell is that)?

One of the things I despise about TV Tropes is the "no such thing as notability" rule. This means anyone can make a page on his own work, even if said work is neo Nazi Mass Effect fanfiction.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/Uplifted

Uplifted begins in January 1942, a few hundred miles outside of Leningrad and well inside of the occupied Russia. There, a convoy races towards a recently spotted anomaly, not aware of the drastic consequences their actions will have. Although the premise is fantastic, the series takes the cake for presenting quite possibly the most flawed characters ever created in the Mass Effect fandom. The story has several themes as well, notably that history is extremely ugly and that the past can always catch up to hand you your ass.The series is to be set in three eras. World War II, which is now complete, 1998 to 2012 (Uplifted: Integration) and the Mass Effect future.The first series is primarily centered around Obersturmbannfuhrer (Lieutenant Colonel by UK and US standards) Joachim Hoch, a bitter but occasionally zealous Waffen SS officer fresh off watching his unit slaughtered outside of Moscow. He is the product of the lost generation. An attempt to retain the happiness that his mother and father had before World War One. After his abuse at his Father's hands and drastic political differences between Mother and son, Joachim left home and wound up protecting a SS officer from a Communist thug. That man, Gerald Langer took him in and the rest is history.The series is also notable for the depth of the research that has gone into the writing. The author has taken the time to research and create a detailed and realistic look at the world in 1942-43. It is also notable for avoiding falling into the trap that all Nazis are evil. Of course some, like Himmler, Kaltenbrunner and Heydrich are shown to be complete monsters, but even they present a facade of civility to the people around them. Others, such as Gerald Langer, and Joachim Hoch are surprisingly decent people, despite their their racist viewpoints, views which were all too common back then.

Good Is Not Nice: Basically all of the protagonists have a brutal streak a mile long, even Erwin Rommel, who coldly guns down Adolf Eichmann at Malta. The Allies are no better, as Joachim and Hanala discover when captured by the SAS.

The Allies were no better than the Axis, and the only thing that made Rommel brutal was shooting one of the masterminds of the Holocaust.

r/shitwehraboossay reacts here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitWehrab...in_which_an_ss_officer_falls_in_love_with_an/

They aren't impressed.

The page on this steaming pile of manure is longer than the page on The Human Condition trilogy.

Jesus wept.

All The Tropes is just as bad for this.

 

[Asa_Spades60]

"Big Lipped Alligator Moment" (seriously, what the hell is that)?

According to them, a moment in a story that comes out of left field, is bizarre or feels out of place in tone, and never gets commented on again (never mind that most alleged "big-lipped alligator moments" in stories are there to provide character development or just be a funny/more light-hearted respite from a heavy plot point).

 

[Pointless Pedant]

According to them, a moment in a story that comes out of left field, is bizarre or feels out of place in tone, and never gets commented on again (never mind that most alleged "big-lipped alligator moments" in stories are there to provide character development or just be a funny/more light-hearted respite from a heavy plot point).

A dissonant moment would be a more appropriate name, but I can understand why there would be an article on that. What does it have to do with big lipped alligators, though?

 

[Alberto Balsalm]

A dissonant moment would be a more appropriate name, but I can understand why there would be an article on that. What does it have to do with big lipped alligators, though?

It's a forced Nostalgia Critic joke that's aged really poorly. He reviewed some movie with a musical number starring a big-lipped alligator that never appears afterwards, and then started throwing a "BIG-LIPPED ALLIGATOR MOMENT" banner on any inexplicable scene like that.