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I know of a (fairly decent) short story author who hits "random page" there a few times, to get story prompts.

he said it works out well about a tenth of the time and I can believe that.

didn't they get rid of troper tales? I remember finding most of the more bizarre crap in that section.
 
resonancer said:
I know of a (fairly decent) short story author who hits "random page" there a few times, to get story prompts.

he said it works out well about a tenth of the time and I can believe that.

didn't they get rid of troper tales? I remember finding most of the more bizarre crap in that section.
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TroperTales

Troper Tales — A.K.A. personal anecdotes from the lives of our contributors — was found to be unmanageable and has been permanently removed from the wiki.
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I think that's a polite way of saying, "It become a site-wide embarrassment and we had to get rid of it to sleep at night."
 
Replicant Sasquatch said:
As it is the community loves using pages like YMMV to show off their power levels so it doesn't surprise me a page like this existed.
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it was the worst. every page was somebody comparing a minor real life encounter to an epic moment in an anime.
 
You guys know the movie Sing, do you? I saw THIS on the TVTropes page for it:
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Not only did THIS page mention Harambe, I've seen it mentioned on at least five other pages. Someone even compared the incident to a scene in-you guessed it-SpongeBob! I'm sorry to make this pun, but their brains have turned into sponges.

Speaking of SpongeBob, someone added a reference to the show that was totally off-topic on the Animaniacs page, which would only make sense to those who've seen the show in German!:
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Here's one that (finally) doesn't involve SpongeBob. Someone thinks Pegasus from Sailor Moon is an abusive parent to a little girl:
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GentlemanFaggot said:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TroperTales



I think that's a polite way of saying, "It become a site-wide embarrassment and we had to get rid of it to sleep at night."
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Here's proof that it did exist. Woah, some of them are really ridiculous.
 
Uncanny Valley said:
The Web Original tab is the most I've been horrified in a long, long time.
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Yeah, what's up with Tropers' boners for wanting lessons and Aesops in their works? Is that why most of them take to pre-school age shows? Were they the kids who grew up with the cartoons that had to be educational due to FCC regulations? So many questions...

There's also the "Broken Aesop" trope if you want to keep traversing down the rabbit hole of 'tism...

I'm sorry to make this pun, but their brains have turned into sponges.
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Because they soak up the filthy water of pop culture?
 
The act of making lists of every single detail about your favorite show sounds pretty autistic in itself. TVTropes looks like a barely contained ball pit of people who think they're critics and intellectuals of storytelling, when most of them have never written a story to begin with.
 
BroccoliBrain said:
The act of making lists of every single detail about your favorite show sounds pretty autistic in itself. TVTropes looks like a barely contained ball pit of people who think they're critics and intellectuals of storytelling, when most of them have never written a story to begin with.
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Oh, it's autistic, make no mistake about that, but that in and of itself is otherwise harmless. Unfortunately, most of them have no self awareness and think that just because they can apply their own jargon to story elements they've become expert authors and story critics.

Based on my own estimates, I'd wager the following groups are drawn to troping sites (as in, reasons to even look at them):

10% are casual browsers who just want to look up trivia on media.
40% are habitual editors who just need an outlet for their autism.
30% are hardcore autists who engage in some of the spergiest shit there and are the group from whom we draw the most lolcows.
15% are people just looking at stupidity to point and laugh at and tropers tend to provide lots of amusement (judging from "all the tropers are embarrassing and stupid" threads and forums I've found across the internet)
5% would be anyone with actual writing or literary analysis credentials, and that's rounding up and being extremely generous.
 
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Oh, it's autistic, make no mistake about that, but that in and of itself is otherwise harmless. Unfortunately, most of them have no self awareness and think that just because they can apply their own jargon to story elements they've become expert authors and story critics.

Based on my own estimates, I'd wager the following groups are drawn to troping sites (as in, reasons to even look at them):

10% are casual browsers who just want to look up trivia on media.
40% are habitual editors who just need an outlet for their autism.
30% are hardcore autists who engage of some of the spergiest shit there and are the group from whom we draw the most lolcows.
15% are people just looking at stupidity to point and laugh at and tropers tend to provide lots of amusement (judging from "all the tropers are embarrassing and stupid" threads and forums I've found across the internet)
5% would be anyone with actual writing or literary analysis credentials, and that's rounding up and being extremely generous.
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And that 5% also happens to be made up of the same people who wouldn't engage in conversations on the site. Neither would the 10% of casual browsers and the 15% who are there to get their daily dose of humor, so it's no surprise it's sperg pugatory there. Spergatory?
 
Cynical said:
Oh, it's autistic, make no mistake about that, but that in and of itself is otherwise harmless. Unfortunately, most of them have no self awareness and think that just because they can apply their own jargon to story elements they've become expert authors and story critics.

Based on my own estimates, I'd wager the following groups are drawn to troping sites (as in, reasons to even look at them):

10% are casual browsers who just want to look up trivia on media.
40% are habitual editors who just need an outlet for their autism.
30% are hardcore autists who engage in some of the spergiest shit there and are the group from whom we draw the most lolcows.
15% are people just looking at stupidity to point and laugh at and tropers tend to provide lots of amusement (judging from "all the tropers are embarrassing and stupid" threads and forums I've found across the internet)
5% would be anyone with actual writing or literary analysis credentials, and that's rounding up and being extremely generous.
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To be fair, it is nice reading the trivia section.
Asa_Spades60 said:
"Looks like"? Also, check this out: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/UnpublishedWorks
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You could say this is the proof that thinking in tropes is bad for storywriting. All the entries I clicked on are just a general premise followed by a list of things they want to execute (but possibly never will). It's almost sad knowing they want to make a story but they're doing it in the worst way possible. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were self-aware enough to know you don't write well by making shopping lists of tropes, but couldn't resist anyway.
And where does the word trope come from anyway? Sounds like 'tripe', which is slang for nonsense/subbish (as in, "I think your fanfic is utter tripe").
 
BroccoliBrain said:
To be fair, it is nice reading the trivia section.

You could say this is the proof that thinking in tropes is bad for storywriting. All the entries I clicked on are just a general premise followed by a list of things they want to execute (but possibly never will). It's almost sad knowing they want to make a story but they're doing it in the worst way possible. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were self-aware enough to know you don't write well by making shopping lists of tropes, but couldn't resist anyway.
And where does the word trope come from anyway? Sounds like 'tripe', which is slang for nonsense/subbish (as in, "I think your fanfic is utter tripe").
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The word "trope" predates not only the site but the internet itself.
 
Replicant Sasquatch said:
The word "trope" predates not only the site but the internet itself.
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Yep:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trope_(literature)

The problem many attribute to TV Tropes (and by proxy All The Tropes) is that a lot of their trope names are:

1. Japanese weeaboo references. (This has ever so slowly been rolled back over time to shit that is less retarded)
2. Based on a single incident from a niche show instead of actually describing shit in general. (Also has been pared back over time)
3. Self-referencing circlejerk bullshit and not actually a trope (still a problem, especially if the bullshit gets a lot of traffic, which they are total SEO whores over and thus will doggedly resist changing it unless they get too much shit for it)
 
That explains why it bothers me that they use the word 'trope' for things that already have terms like 'cliche'.
 
I know this is something that is related to something I talked about to you all several pages back but us at All The Tropes finally settled on Media Research Failure as the new name replacing Cowboy Behop at His Computer, it's probably best to mention it now because of @Cynical and his post about trope names while it's still vaguely relevant.

For the record, naturally there is arguments regarding Esoteric names and while I'm don't have any objections to them as a concept in certain cases, sometimes they can be confusing and that's why I decided the effort to get the aforementioned trope renamed.
 
LulzKiller said:
I know this is something that is related to something I talked about to you all several pages back but us at All The Tropes finally settled on Media Research Failure as the new name replacing Cowboy Behop at His Computer, it's probably best to mention it now because of @Cynical and his post about trope names while it's still vaguely relevant.

For the record, naturally there is arguments regarding Esoteric names and while I'm don't have any objections to them as a concept in certain cases, sometimes they can be confusing and that's why I decided the effort to get the aforementioned trope renamed.
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Glad to hear it.
 
Tropes aren't just cliche or trivia though, the word is more encompassing. Like the word saw encompasses both handsaw and chainsaw. It's a useful term for media analysis, which just makes these guys all the more exceptional for the way they use it.
 
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