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Piga Dgrifm said:
Mr. Enter said it was mean-spirited.

Speaking of, here's a bunch of speds talking about spongebob episodes that hurt their feelings:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DethroningMoment/SpongeBobSquarepants
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Everything about the DMoS pages is a slog to read, especially the one for Family Guy (which, yeah, there are people out there who don't care much for the show -- mostly because it's a mediocre clone of The Simpsons that's only popular because The Simpsons' quality has been in the toilet for years -- but this is pushing it). Whatever happened to the days when people casually brushed off a bad episode/installment of a TV show/book/movie/etc? Or is that still around and we're dealing with Tropers, who are only considered people in name and physical appearance only?

Melancholic_Cowboy said:
For people so obsessed with the elements that comprise a narrative, storytelling and general media they sure are really dense when it comes narrative, storytelling, and general media.
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Analyzing a story for merit and themes is hard for them. It's just easier for them to blather on and dissect a story for stuff that doesn't matter to anyone else. It's really all they know.
 
I've already written why I really dislike this site and it's frustrating impact on analizing media. TvTropes have nothing in common in discussing storytelling devices. They are just labelling everything, from archetypes that exist in every strory and write oh-so-ironical descrpition that conflict with site's statement that "tropes are not bad" to characters' eye colours. What importance for storytelling have eye colour of some cartoon character?! And every smallest idea that happend in more than one movie.
But what's really irritates me lately is, that because of this site people just use the word "trope" in every movie review, usually in negative context. "Oh yeah, I've seen similar idea, who cares that executed in very different way, in another movie, I'm gonna call this a trope in my review to looks so clever".
People use the world trope as a synonym to "cliche" AND "archetype" AND "genre convention" AND "meme" AND some other things. So basically everything is cliche for them. Especially something they don't like.

OK, why I'm writing this rant now? Because I've seen a movie with my parents, really interesting movie ("Fotograf", 2014) and wanted to google some information about some real-life inspirations behind a story. In every of 3 articles about movie there was at least a small section of text quickly reviewing movie. In every single one the word "trope" was used. In two of them as a synonym for "cliche". All articles was written in Polish.
What's the most interesting is the fact such thing as "trope" does not exist in Polish language. There is no way to translate it's meaning correctly. And our texts about media happily existed without it. Until about 2011/2012 . It is usually translated as "trop", which is irritating, because "trop" is already existing word that means a clue.
The word "cliche" ("klisza") in the same meaning than in English/French became popular after 2010. People usually called this "sztampa" before.
You can really tell that most of people using "klisza" or "trop" in their texts have read too much of English-language internet rants or watch too much of TGWG.
So, maybe I'm exaggerating, but it seems that popularity of TvTropes website and site's format have spread some irritating tendencies in writing about culture worldwide. Methods from website filled with cartoon fethishist are now found in serious text about Polish cinema.

I had classes on storytelling/script-writing two years ago and really, this is not a way in which media should be analyzed and written about.
 
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IdaRita said:
So, maybe I'm exaggerating, but it seems that popularity of TvTropes website and site's format have spread some irritating tendencies in writing about culture worldwide. Methods from website filled with cartoon fethishist are now found in serious text about Polish cinema.
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Nice pasta, fag.

I mean. . .I'm hoping this is pasta. This is pasta, right?

(If not, it will be. . .saving.)
 
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IdaRita said:
No, it's not pasta.
I just watched a movie with my parents, liked it and wanted to learn more about it. "Tropes" mentioned everywhere.
http://kulturaliberalna.pl/2015/01/27/burszta-fotograf-recenzja-pietno-podzielonego-miasta/ - example
https://translate.google.pl/#en/pl/trope - even google has problems how to translate "trope".

I don't know how else to prove it. I don't think anybody here speaks Polish.
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I'm not too good with foreign languages. But if I'm reading what I think I'm reading...

Let's just say the Internet's just gotten a little more :autism:.

Also, on my end, Google's translating "Trope" as "przenośnia", referring it as something like a metaphor.
 
friedshrimp said:
I know, I know, it's dumb to talk about this, but you gotta love uneducated teens/20 somethings criticizing a play written in the Elizabethan era where the concept of parenthood and teenage hood was vastly different/non-existant from today, and apparently a thirteen year old in those times getting married IS TOO PROBLEMATIC.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/RomeoAndJuliet
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Not a single one of these spergs knows a damn thing about the culture of the time or the fact that Shakespeare made plays to sell tickets. He's not making any social point, he wants to get paid.
 
friedshrimp said:
I know, I know, it's dumb to talk about this, but you gotta love uneducated teens/20 somethings criticizing a play written in the Elizabethan era where the concept of parenthood and teenage hood was vastly different/non-existant from today, and apparently a thirteen year old in those times getting married IS TOO PROBLEMATIC.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/RomeoAndJuliet
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They do understand that Romeo and Juliet aren't meant to be anything but stupid teens?
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
They do understand that Romeo and Juliet aren't meant to be anything but stupid teens?
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They think My Little Pony is something that's deep and meaningful, instead of a 30 minute toy commercial for preschool girls. Of course they don't understand.
 
NARPASSWORD said:
They think My Little Pony is something that's deep and meaningful, instead of a 30 minute toy commercial for preschool girls. Of course they don't understand.
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tbh, most people think romeo and juliet is a TRUE AND HONEST love story of the most TRUE AND HONEST love
 
Romeo and Juliet works well as a cautionary tale and a tragedy more than a massive love story, but we'll leave the Shakespeare sperging for later.

NARPASSWORD said:
They think My Little Pony is something that's deep and meaningful, instead of a 30 minute toy commercial for preschool girls. Of course they don't understand.
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It's kinda pathetic how they're so dismissive of classic literature and mythology but then go out of their way to praise the likes of Nostalgia Critic and My Little Pony.

Speaking of...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/PokemonAnime

Every single pokemon page is like this. I think i'm getting a headache...
 
friedshrimp said:
Romeo and Juliet works well as a cautionary tale and a tragedy more than a massive love story, but we'll leave the Shakespeare sperging for later.
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Yeah, but a lot of people don't know that, mostly because of how much that story has been parodied, adapted, toned down, filtered through this that and the other, and updated to modern times and sensibilities. Plus, most people had shitty English teachers who didn't know how to properly teach Shakespearean plays.
 
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"Trope Overdosed" just means 'The page has a lot of links to Tropes pages on it" - it's a circular circlejerk because the works tropers already care about get more of their relevant tropes filled out, the tropes tropers care about get linked more on already popular pages (including examples that don't fit of course), and genres tropers are more familiar with (anime, animation, web original, etc.) just plain get more pages for their tropes in general.
 
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