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isamax01 said:
I'm sorry, but making memes about U.S. Politics as seen here, seems a bit too ROCEJ (Rules of Cautious Editing Judgement) violation worthy. Lemme just say that this is quite left-leaning. Don't get me started with Biden Era and Trump Era.

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I looked at the Trump era memes during the 2016 election and how is this a meme? There is no funny to this

#NeverTrump Explanation The name given to a number of Republicans/conservatives who have won fans on the left for being among the few in the GOP to speak out against Donald Trump. Talk show host Charlie Sykes has a reputation as the Only Sane Man among the conservative movement, starting with his take-no-prisoners interview of Donald Trump before the Wisconsin primary, and earned respect from liberals and progressives for his continued #NeverTrump stance and refusal to indulge in the more racist and xenophobic strains of conservatism. Third-party spoiler Evan McMullin has likewise won respect for his more nuanced perspective on LGBT rights (probably due to the fact that his mother is currently married to a woman), his Deadpan Snarker tendencies, and his still-classified past as a CIA operative.
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Doctor of Autism said:
I looked at the Trump era memes during the 2016 election and how is this a meme? There is no funny to this
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The reason is that since it's run by left-wing circlejerks, it's likely that all the right wing memes that are much more funny are deleted.

If you aren't convinced, they also deleted John Oliver's "Current year" meme in his YMMV page because it's created by "hatedom".

Ask the Tropers is legit a goldmine for finding left-wing agenda so we can make fun of them for their preachiness.
 
isamax01 said:
I think nobody actually talked a massive discourse in Ask The Tropers where one of the conservative tropers is silenced by several well-known liberal tropers.

You guys decide whether if the guy who is defending his stance is right or wrong. It's quite long, just so you guys know.
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The "clean wermacht" myth doesn't really hold up, unless you want to cite a specific unit or officer. What disqualifies is that penal battalion that wouldn't stop killing each other while they were out of combat, that time when some poorly trained troops tied some civilians onto their tanks, and how the Holocaust happened.

Although, it's not like how every single field officer is magically aware of what their subordinates was up to (an Japanese general was tried and hanged over this, despite specifically ordering his soldiers not to rape and pillage); it's more along the line of "Nazis are bad, Nazis are Germans, Germans are bad" to the point that you can't really argue with these people. Even if you point out that SS veteran who was drafted into being a guard at an concentration under penalty of being hanged.
 
NerdShamer said:
Although, it's not like how every single field officer is magically aware of what their subordinates was up to (an Japanese general was tried and hanged over this, despite specifically ordering his soldiers not to rape and pillage); it's more along the line of "Nazis are bad, Nazis are Germans, Germans are bad" to the point that you can't really argue with these people. Even if you point out that SS veteran who was drafted into being a guard at an concentration under penalty of being hanged.
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Eh. Legally speaking that’s kind of a minefield. Establishing individual responsibilities isn’t a mathematical act and if a violation of war laws happened, it’s basically impossible to exempt the higher grades.

As for the Germans are bad thing, there’s a principle called “collective guilt” that’s sort of becomes legally operative in situation where the misdemeanour is so widespread in a country that you can’t basically single out a unique perpetrator.

That said, the Clean Wehrmacht myth is a myth. Clean armies and clean wars don’t exist and the German war crimes have been widely documented.
 
Retired Junta Member said:
Eh. Legally speaking that’s kind of a minefield. Establishing individual responsibilities isn’t a mathematical act and if a violation of war laws happened, it’s basically impossible to exempt the higher grades.

As for the Germans are bad thing, there’s a principle called “collective guilt” that’s sort of becomes legally operative in situation where the misdemeanour is so widespread in a country that you can’t basically single out a unique perpetrator.

That said, the Clean Wehrmacht myth is a myth. Clean armies and clean wars don’t exist and the German war crimes have been widely documented.
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If collective guilt was an thing, a lot more than 20 people would have been hanged after the Nuremberg Trials.
 
NerdShamer said:
If collective guilt was an thing, a lot more than 20 people would have been hanged after the Nuremberg Trials.
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It’s a thing but it only works in very unique situations and it implies collective sanctions, not individual judgments.

Speaking of the Nuremberg Trials, the death sentences were meant to be a lot more but for political reasons the Allied before and the local government after chose to not proceed.
 
Does anybody think using "reality has a liberal bias" as a reason for being left-leaning is bullshit?

This is of course, coming from none other than fighteer

That said, there is a famous saying that "reality has a liberal bias". Applied to us, what passes for modern "conservative" thought in the United States (and many other Western nations, for that matter) is in reality an anti-fact, anti-rationality, anti-science, anti-diversity, and indeed anti-social movement that tends to make poor bedfellows with people who try to be as broadly minded as possible with respect to media.
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isamax01 said:
Does anybody think using "reality has a liberal bias" as a reason for being left-leaning is bullshit?

This is of course, coming from none other than fighteer
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Yeah, if reality had a liberal bias, communism would work.
 
isamax01 said:
Does anybody think using "reality has a liberal bias" as a reason for being left-leaning is bullshit?

This is of course, coming from none other than fighteer
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They seriously are taking a joke made by a comedian as a serious mantra. Anyone who follows this tribalist thinking is fucking stupid especially if they use jokes made from comedians as serious points
 
isamax01 said:
Does anybody think using "reality has a liberal bias" as a reason for being left-leaning is bullshit?

This is of course, coming from none other than fighteer
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Exactly where did he say that? I remember seeing it in this thread, a while ago.

But anyways, it doesn't really hold up on account of reasons that'll derail this thread.
 
When TV Tropes users try to interpret subtleties and real life politics into media, it reminded me of the show Daria, where the titular character was substitute teaching English while the actual faculty were on strike. She's teaching Romeo and Juliet and the class has to write an essay, leading to this exchange:


Jeffy - A "B"! You mean you think Mercutio had a thing for Romeo, too?

Daria - No, but you argued your point well, and I thought your ideas for keeping him out of the locker room were original, if a little closed-minded.


The joke is obvious, but I feel like their users are unironically just as off in the boonies, but the site leadership is so woefully idiotic that they're encouraging it.
 
isamax01 said:
I think nobody actually talked a massive discourse in Ask The Tropers where one of the conservative tropers is silenced by several well-known liberal tropers.

You guys decide whether if the guy who is defending his stance is right or wrong. It's quite long, just so you guys know.
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You gotta give it to the user. For speaking about their political views knowing full aware that they will be silence by the leftie majority there.
Flexo said:
Yeah, if reality had a liberal bias, communism would work.
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And men would actually become women instead of the deform looking trannies
NerdShamer said:
Exactly where did he say that? I remember seeing it in this thread, a while ago.

But anyways, it doesn't really hold up on account of reasons that'll derail this thread.
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Honeslty why the fuck liberals took a joke latterly to this day is beyond me
 
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