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Found this gem when reading about Ascendance Of A Bookworm
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Leave it to Fighteer and others to continue to try and dismiss the strengths of a film like Top Gun Maverick, right in the middle of me praising and defending it compared to other legacy sequels like Matrix Resurrections (I really need to learn better than to try and explain my thoughts to him).

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He still thinks Maverick not dying and it following well-established story beats is a flaw.
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Also, he hates the character of Maverick for not suffering consequences and "sexually harassing women", and can't suspend his disbelief for it compared to other films. While another says that it should've been less jingoistic and made the villains more human.
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boy I hope someone was fired for that blunder
I wasn't aware of that inconsequential detail when I read that story for the first time, my suspension of disbelief was perfectly fine. Maybe this troper should just have just kept in mind that not everyone is a Disney-obsessed turbo-autist who cares to remember such minor bullshit.

Leave it to Fighteer and others to continue to try and dismiss the strengths of a film like Top Gun Maverick, right in the middle of me praising and defending it compared to other legacy sequels like Matrix Resurrections (I really need to learn better than to try and explain my thoughts to him).

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He still thinks Maverick not dying and it following well-established story beats is a flaw.
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Also, he hates the character of Maverick for not suffering consequences and "sexually harassing women", and can't suspend his disbelief for it compared to other films. While another says that it should've been less jingoistic and made the villains more human.
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Why do you still bother? They adamantly refuse to understand the point of the movie, just look at Redmess' post. I'm no expert, but I think that would have soured a lot of people on that movie because it's not something one would expect from a Top Gun sequel. Also, I want Fighteer to show me where Maverick "sexually harassed women into falling in love with him". I don't remember him doing that to Charlie in the first movie, much less with Penny in the second one. Fighteer just continues to prove how much of an idiot he is.
 
I went looking through some Star Wars articles, because even though they're a toxic wasteland of Disney shills, I still like that garbage. And I found this little gem in reference to the 2003 Clone Wars miniseries:
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Who the hell are they referring too? Who are these people who go "Ew what is this? I want to see Ah-so-ka!" Last I checked, the old show was universally beloved.
 
I went looking through some Star Wars articles, because even though they're a toxic wasteland of Disney shills, I still like that garbage. And I found this little gem in reference to the 2003 Clone Wars miniseries:
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Who the hell are they referring too? Who are these people who go "Ew what is this? I want to see Ah-so-ka!" Last I checked, the old show was universally beloved.
I have a fondness for both shows. This seems to be a harsh statement in my opinion
 
I know, I keep bringing up Fighteer and others thoughts on TGM (though these responses weren't meant for me this time), but they are very telling of the mindset they have, from their politics to their view on media.

They added in some more elaboration on why they thought it was flawed (and keep in mind that Fighteer "claims" to still have liked the film).

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So it should've had more focus on politics so as to prevent it "from being critical analyzed", according to Fighteer.
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With all that he said regarding how he feels it treated women, along with him refusing to not over-analyze it in the "real world sense", his claim of still liking the film and "not being a hypocrite" in regards to wanting it to be something it wouldn't work as really feels hollow.
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Old flame rekindled cliches are apparently bad and imply sexual harassment.
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A work being anti-woke is apparently bad, as that equals not thinking critically and turning your brain off, instead just "having entertainment be shoved into your orifices."
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Of course they have to bring up the alt-right in relation to those liking how it doesn't force the "message" down people's throats and the like.
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Yep, Maverick is a Marty-Stu and should've been made an antagonist as a narrative payoff.
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Wonder why he can take other films that are even more ludicrous seriously then.
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Ignore that it does that plot point arguably in a more epic and intense manner.
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Ah yes, because you have to deeply explore the geopolitics for this simple action film to work, lest it be similar to making a movie that doesn't properly explore the Mexican cartels.
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How dare you not critical analyze this film like I do, and how dare you just enjoy Tom Cruise's performance and everything else! Why are you just sucking it up like a good little consumer, not understanding "subtext and inference"?! That's not how media criticism works, and you are all just turning your brains off, unlike my exquisite mind!

Man, I don't know if he lacks self-awareness or is just that smug.
 
I know, I keep bringing up Fighteer and others thoughts on TGM (though these responses weren't meant for me this time), but they are very telling of the mindset they have, from their politics to their view on media.

They added in some more elaboration on why they thought it was flawed (and keep in mind that Fighteer "claims" to still have liked the film).

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So it should've had more focus on politics so as to prevent it "from being critical analyzed", according to Fighteer.
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With all that he said regarding how he feels it treated women, along with him refusing to not over-analyze it in the "real world sense", his claim of still liking the film and "not being a hypocrite" in regards to wanting it to be something it wouldn't work as really feels hollow.
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Old flame rekindled cliches are apparently bad and imply sexual harassment.
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A work being anti-woke is apparently bad, as that equals not thinking critically and turning your brain off, instead just "having entertainment be shoved into your orifices."
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Of course they have to bring up the alt-right in relation to those liking how it doesn't force the "message" down people's throats and the like.
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Yep, Maverick is a Marty-Stu and should've been made an antagonist as a narrative payoff.
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Wonder why he can take other films that are even more ludicrous seriously then.
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Ignore that it does that plot point arguably in a more epic and intense manner.
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Ah yes, because you have to deeply explore the geopolitics for this simple action film to work, lest it be similar to making a movie that doesn't properly explore the Mexican cartels.
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How dare you not critical analyze this film like I do, and how dare you just enjoy Tom Cruise's performance and everything else! Why are you just sucking it up like a good little consumer, not understanding "subtext and inference"?! That's not how media criticism works, and you are all just turning your brains off, unlike my exquisite mind!

Man, I don't know if he lacks self-awareness or is just that smug.
The more you see of Fighteer the more you understand why he had to adopt a kid.
 
I know, I keep bringing up Fighteer and others thoughts on TGM (though these responses weren't meant for me this time), but they are very telling of the mindset they have, from their politics to their view on media.

They added in some more elaboration on why they thought it was flawed (and keep in mind that Fighteer "claims" to still have liked the film).

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So it should've had more focus on politics so as to prevent it "from being critical analyzed", according to Fighteer.
View attachment 3522045
With all that he said regarding how he feels it treated women, along with him refusing to not over-analyze it in the "real world sense", his claim of still liking the film and "not being a hypocrite" in regards to wanting it to be something it wouldn't work as really feels hollow.
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Old flame rekindled cliches are apparently bad and imply sexual harassment.
View attachment 3522055
A work being anti-woke is apparently bad, as that equals not thinking critically and turning your brain off, instead just "having entertainment be shoved into your orifices."
View attachment 3522064
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Of course they have to bring up the alt-right in relation to those liking how it doesn't force the "message" down people's throats and the like.
View attachment 3522081
Yep, Maverick is a Marty-Stu and should've been made an antagonist as a narrative payoff.
View attachment 3522083
Wonder why he can take other films that are even more ludicrous seriously then.
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Ignore that it does that plot point arguably in a more epic and intense manner.
View attachment 3522087
Ah yes, because you have to deeply explore the geopolitics for this simple action film to work, lest it be similar to making a movie that doesn't properly explore the Mexican cartels.
View attachment 3522090
How dare you not critical analyze this film like I do, and how dare you just enjoy Tom Cruise's performance and everything else! Why are you just sucking it up like a good little consumer, not understanding "subtext and inference"?! That's not how media criticism works, and you are all just turning your brains off, unlike my exquisite mind!

Man, I don't know if he lacks self-awareness or is just that smug.
God, I hate these fucking faggots so much. I still don't see how Maverick sexually harrassed a woman, Fighteer. Also, Penny's child wasn't his, and you would know that if you paid attention instead of huffing your pseudo-intellectual farts.

I'm honestly asking myself if I should address each of Fighteer's points or just leave it at that.
 
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