🐱 Trump’s Deep ‘Mental Disorder’

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or months, the Conway family’s drama had played out in aggressively public fashion. There was George Conway, the attorney and co-founder of The Lincoln Project, launching daily Twitter barbs at President Trump; Kellyanne Conway, the president’s fiercely loyal counselor, defending his increasingly unhinged behavior; and in the middle of it all Claudia Conway, the couple’s teenage daughter, creating TikTok videos about how hellish all the sniping between her parents (and Trump) has been.

Then, on Aug. 23, Kellyanne announced she was leaving the Trump White House to focus on her family, while George said he was taking a step back from The Lincoln Project to do the same. The news came on the heels of Claudia accusing both her parents of abusive behavior via social media.


Prior to all this turmoil—that the more cynical among us could see as a reality-TV post-Trump exit strategy—George Conway shepherded and featured in #Unfit: The Psychology of Donald Trump, a documentary wherein some of the world’s leading mental health professionals and acquaintances of Trump offer their opinions on his mental state.

WATCH IT HERE:
“The important thing to recognize about behavioral disorders is that they can be diagnosed through observation alone,” the film’s director Dan Partland tells The Daily Beast. “There is no need to probe the depths of someone’s soul to determine if they meet the criteria for a behavioral disorder. The DSM is written in plain English and can be easily understood by lay-people.”

In #Unfit, psychiatrists, psychologists and George Conway determine that Trump is suffering from “narcissistic personality disorder.” And in one scene that was left on the cutting-room floor, Conway reads aloud the definition of narcissistic personality disorder from the 5th edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM-5, in order to see how many boxes Trump ticks off.

“I have here the DSM-5,” says Conway, before reading the criteria for narcissistic personality disorder. “A pervasive pattern of grandiosity and fantasy or behavior, need for admiration, and lack of empathy as indicated by five or more of the following.”


“Is interpersonally exploitative. Ask the contractors in Atlantic City. Ask the women he sexually abused or assaulted,” offers Conway.

He flips to another indicator: Often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her. “I mean, he’s completely obsessed with [John] McCain, to this day,” says Conway. “He keeps attacking McCain because he’s jealous that McCain is so lionized.”

#Unfit doesn’t just examine Trump’s psyche but also the psychology of those that voted for him, and the societal factors that allow people to blindly follow someone with narcissistic personality disorder.

“Trump’s behavior has been on display for the entire world for almost five years now,” says Partland. “Read the diagnostic criteria and judge for yourself which you think apply. When met, the criteria tend to be accurate predictors of future behavior. Someone with narcissistic personality disorder is prone to a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy. One can only guess at the number of scandals and crises that could have been averted and lives saved if we had understood in 2015 how truly disordered his behavior was.”
 
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DSM-V Criteria for narcissistic personality disorder.

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
 1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
 2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
 3. Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
 4. Requires excessive admiration.
 5. Has a sense of entitlement (i.e., unreasonable expectation of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations).
 6. Is interpersonally exploitative (i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends).
 7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
 8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
 9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors and attitudes.

Pretty sure that a lot of people fit these criteria nowadays. Especially pretty much all politicians.
 
A Histrionic accuses someone else of being a Narcissist.

You hate to see it.

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Are they trying to say that President Trump is a narcissist or are they trying to blame President Trump for the Conways being mediocre parents?

Also I thought the Conways were going to try to get their house in order and help their daughter? Kellyanne Conway seems to have vanished from public life, but here is George mouthing off again once one of his fiercest opponents is gone. What the fucking fuck, George?
 
Well, I think he's got something, fuck if I know, or give a shit. But I'm not a pro, so I'm not violating any standards. He certainly wouldn't be the first president to have issues, and most likely won't be the last.
 
Pentex said:
A Histrionic accuses someone else of being a Narcissist.
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The reddit BPD and NPD subreddits with their my-ex-partner-is-evil stories are a good example of how they can't live without each other -- the perfect partnership of someone with no personality needing someone with a constructed personality that you will kill to hide the brush strokes in.
 
Quixotic Man said:
DSM-V Criteria for narcissistic personality disorder.

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
 1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
 2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
 3. Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
 4. Requires excessive admiration.
 5. Has a sense of entitlement (i.e., unreasonable expectation of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations).
 6. Is interpersonally exploitative (i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends).
 7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
 8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
 9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors and attitudes.

Pretty sure that a lot of people fit these criteria nowadays. Especially pretty much all politicians.
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DSM-5 not V
Actually that isn't correct any longer. That was the DSM-IV criteria, not the DSM-5.
Nope not talking shit, it just wasn't the whole story. There are more sections in the DSM-5 than just the first section, which are also used for diagnostic criteria.

Alternative DSM-5 Model for Personality Disorders
The current approach to personality disorders appears in Section II of DSM-5, and an alternative model developed for DSM-5 is presented here in Section III. The inclusion of both models in DSM-5 reflects the decision of the APA Board of Trustees to preserve continuity with current clinical practice, while also introducing a new approach that aims to address numerous shortcomings of the current approach to personality disorders. For example, the typical patient meeting criteria for a specific personality disorder frequently also meets criteria for other personality disorders. Similarly, other specified or unspecified personality disorder is often the correct (but mostly uninformative) diagnosis, in the sense that patients do not tend to present with patterns of symptoms that correspond with one and only one personality disorder.

In the following alternative DSM-5 model, personality disorders are characterized by impairments in personality functioning and pathological personality traits. The specific personality disorder diagnoses that may be derived from this model include antisocial, avoidant, borderline, narcissistic, obsessive-compulsive, and schizotypal personality disorders. This approach also includes a diagnosis of personality disorder—trait specified (PD-TS) that can be made when a personality disorder is considered present but the criteria for a specific disorder are not met.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Typical features of narcissistic personality disorder are variable and vulnerable self-esteem, with attempts at regulation through attention and approval seeking, and either overt or covert grandiosity. Characteristic difficulties are apparent in identity, self-direction, empathy, and/or intimacy, as described below, along with specific maladaptive traits in the domain of Antagonism.

Proposed Diagnostic Criteria
  1. Moderate or greater impairment in personality functioning, manifested by characteristic difficulties in two or more of the following four areas:
    1. Identity: Excessive reference to others for self-definition and self-esteem regulation; exaggerated self-appraisal inflated or deflated, or vacillating between extremes; emotional regulation mirrors fluctuations in self-esteem.
    2. Self-direction: Goal setting based on gaining approval from others; personal standards unreasonably high in order to see oneself as exceptional, or too low based on a sense of entitlement; often unaware of own motivations.
    3. Empathy: Impaired ability to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others; excessively attuned to reactions of others, but only if perceived as relevant to self; over- or underestimation of own effect on others.
    4. Intimacy: Relationships largely superficial and exist to serve self-esteem regulation; mutuality constrained by little genuine interest in others’ experiences and predominance of a need for personal gain.
  2. Both of the following pathological personality traits:
    1. Grandiosity (an aspect of Antagonism): Feelings of entitlement, either overt or covert; self-centeredness; firmly holding to the belief that one is better than others; condescension toward others.
    2. Attention seeking (an aspect of Antagonism): Excessive attempts to attract and be the focus of the attention of others; admiration seeking.
Specifiers. Trait and personality functioning specifiers may be used to record additional personality features that may be present in narcissistic personality disorder but are not required for the diagnosis. For example, other traits of Antagonism (e.g., manipulativeness, deceitfulness, callousness) are not diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder (see Criterion B) but can be specified when more pervasive antagonistic features (e.g., “malignant narcissism”) are present. Other traits of Negative Affectivity (e.g., depressivity, anxiousness) can be specified to record more “vulnerable” presentations. Furthermore, although moderate or greater impairment in personality functioning is required for the diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder (Criterion A), the level of personality functioning can also be specified.
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There is also what is written in the DSM-5 Guidebook.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Narcissistic personality disorder is named for Narcissus, from Greek mythology, who
fell in love with his own reflection. Freud used the term to describe persons who were
self-absorbed, and psychoanalysts have focused on the narcissist’s need to bolster his
or her self-esteem through grandiose fantasy, exaggerated ambition, exhibitionism,
and feelings of entitlement. The disorder was first included in DSM-III, and the crite-
ria were modified for DSM-III-R and DSM-IV. The criteria for narcissistic personality
disorder are unchanged in DSM-5. The prevalence of this disorder may be as high as
6.2% in the general population, and most persons receiving the diagnosis are male.
Diagnostic Criteria for Narcissistic Personality
Disorder 301.81 (F60.81)
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and
lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as
indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and tal-
ents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or
ideal love.
3. Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or
should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
4. Requires excessive admiration.
5. Has a sense of entitlement (i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable
treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations).
6. Is interpersonally exploitative (i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her
own ends).
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of oth-
ers.
8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.
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George Conway is a deeply unwell manlet and it's a shame that his emotional frailties have been exploited by those he thinks are his friends and comrades.
 
The problem here is that these fuckers think that any personality type is a mental disorder: being histrionic doesn't always mean you have a histrionic personality disorder.

Trump's rich. And powerful. He knows he can do shit and get away with it, that explains a lot of his personality. He literally doesn't care what you or me or anyone thinks of him.
 
This article sounds kind of desperate to convince people Trump is evil and dangerous once again. Years ago there was a study done and it compared CEOs of major corporations to sociopaths. The study determined that they have very similar personality traits and for somebody who is the CEO of a company and a high achiever it’s actually needed to be able to do their job well And be successful. . For example, a serial killer can go from chopping up a body in their basement to walking up the steps and having birthday cake with their kid and acting as if nothing is wrong. The CEO of a major healthcare organization can make cuts that promote profitability within their organization but cause major problems for their members. This type of person can go visit their grandma and take her new slippers and a new nightie and treat her to dinner but also be making cuts that would give her less home health aide hours and deny a medical procedure she needs for a better quality of life. Sociopaths and a high achieving CEOs are able to compartmentalize, they need to do this to be able to rationalize and justify their behavior when it’s hurtful. The leader of one of the worlds superpowers has to do the same thing, none of this is surprising and it’s kind of goofy and naïve and idealistic for them to think this is a bad thing. Leaders have times when they need to be ruthless to accomplish goals. You’re never going to have someone like Mr. Rogers in the White House.
 
I'm not a fan of Trump but I'm also not necessarily in the ORANGE MAN BAD group...

There's nothing in the Constitution that bars someone who may (or may not) be mentally ill from being president. Or, as several people have mentioned in re: Reagan, physically ill either. All the president has to be is 35 years of age, a natural born citizen, and a resident of the United States for at least 14 years.

He was elected, crazy or not, so now everyone gets to deal with the fallout.
 
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