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His backers know he just says that for the rubes. There won't be an army of rednecks marching on lower Manhattan to end their oppression at the hands of the wealthy, so they're not worried what chumps from Middle America think about them.

Coming from the redneck part of NY, I can't deny that seeing this actually happen would be pretty cool considering how NYC royally fucks the rest of the state on a regular basis.
 
So yep, Cruz has eliminated himself, and despite what you all doubters have been thinking all along, guess who still has his footing in firm place?
Can Marco or Jeb! catch up in the next 17 days or so? We will see.
I don't think that anybody has ever doubted Trump's charismatic ability to attract and hold a significant mass of supporters.
As of now, Reuters Five Day Rolling (probably the closest to 'real world') puts us as at:
Trump - 38.2
Cruz - 14.9
and uhhh, Carson - 10.7
Cruz still has a viable chance, but Trump still remains the dominant choice. It's very unlikely that we'll see ¡Jeb! or Marco catch up significantly to Trump.
 
Crazy stuff, man. Twenty five or so years ago, Dukakis' whole campaign fell apart because of a picture of him sitting on a tank. In 2016, we have a guy that's publicly mocked someone with a disability, made a stupid period joke that you wouldn't expect to hear from anyone after junior high, and been caught in one blatant lie after another, and he's the leading republican candidate.
 
Crazy stuff, man. Twenty five or so years ago, Dukakis' whole campaign fell apart because of a picture of him sitting on a tank. In 2016, we have a guy that's publicly mocked someone with a disability, made a stupid period joke that you wouldn't expect to hear from anyone after junior high, and been caught in one blatant lie after another, and he's the leading republican candidate.

The only real reason he's leading is because he's not saying PC shit like everyone else is to the pleasure of many letdown people tired of PC backstabbing fascist behavior from our government since 2001...
 
Crazy stuff, man. Twenty five or so years ago, Dukakis' whole campaign fell apart because of a picture of him sitting on a tank. In 2016, we have a guy that's publicly mocked someone with a disability, made a stupid period joke that you wouldn't expect to hear from anyone after junior high, and been caught in one blatant lie after another, and he's the leading republican candidate.
It's really incredible. I've been running with this theory for awhile now, that it really is just best to speak your mind and do whatever shit you think is funny and makes you happy, basically try to be yourself and don't impress people and people who you wouldn't get along with anyway will naturally fuck off and people who are cool will respect you more for it. I say and do terrible shit all the time and don't give a fuck about what anyone thinks and I have more good friends than I have ever had and people somehow like me and think I'm smart and respect me even though I'm a ranting drunken lunatic who hates everyone. It's honestly really weird.
Trump is the full embodiment of that idea. I think where others fail is when they say something that goes so far outside of their character, because they've not really been themselves the entire time. Like that republican candidate a couple of years ago who said womens bodies would "shut down" after rape so they wouldn't get pregnant. Maybe it was his true opinion, but it broke his established character, and he tried to backtrack. Trump always says ridiculous shit, but people expect him to because it's his personality and then he just doubles down on whatever dumb shit he said and doesn't apologize and everyone moves on. Almost nothing can damage his character because his character is already so ridiculous and he knows that and just rolls with it. It's really fascinating, this has been extremely entertaining to watch.
 
Like that republican candidate a couple of years ago who said womens bodies would "shut down" after rape so they wouldn't get pregnant. Maybe it was his true opinion, but it broke his established character, and he tried to backtrack. Trump always says ridiculous shit, but people expect him to because it's his personality and then he just doubles down on whatever dumb shit he said and doesn't apologize and everyone moves on. Almost nothing can damage his character because his character is already so ridiculous and he knows that and just rolls with it. It's really fascinating, this has been extremely entertaining to watch.

Eh, I was mostly citing examples of Trump's childish reactions to criticsm by being petulant and saying retarded shit, whereas Akin's legitimate rape blunder (and political blunders in general) was a matter of saying something shitty and plainly inaccurate in a hamfisted attempt to validate a stance. Albeit, Trump's done that as well, so your point still stands.

I don't know if it's a matter of people expecting this attitude of him, but I do think his celebrity status is giving him sort of an immunity to gaffes that none of the other republican candidates have, which is kinda funny given how many people originally thought it'd be his biggest liability.
 
He is a prick, and is honest about it.
The most disappoint thing is that he isn't really.

He backs down and offers half-assed excuses. Like when he tried to say that one news woman was on the rag and then tried that stupid kiddie bullshit about "uhh, I meant she was bleeding from her nose". It's eerily reminiscent of CWC's "smack your face down monster" line.
 
The foreign policy impact of a hypothetical Trump presidency are... quite something. I know that so far he has mainly relied on these feel-good generalities and once in office, bureaucratic inertia and all the pesky realities would take the edge off but still, having such an outsider leading American foreign policy at a time like this would really introduce a new level of instability to global politics.

I've not had the time to follow the campaigns closely, can anyone please enlighten me as to who are advising him on foreign policy?
 
He is a prick, and is honest about it.

GO TRUMP
Trump is the least honest candidate in the race, and that includes Hillary Clinton. He's also the race's biggest flip-flopper, the biggest whore, the biggest hypocrite, and has the second shadiest decision making record only because Hillary Clinton's botches on Yugoslavia* and Libya lead to such high losses of human life.

People are sick of soulless, gutless PC politics, and they're hoping Trump's vulgarity is his attempt at giving Washington an enema. They're tired of politicians making decisions based on soft money, and they're hoping Trump's personal wealth will render him immune. They're tired of subjects that matter being either swept under the rug or outright ignored, and they're hoping Trump's lack of a filter will bring issues like Islamofascism and the fall of the white American working class into the limelight and dealt with in plain English. If Trump actually did represent those things, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

But hope never triumphs over reality. Trump is as stupid and greedy today as he was on his birth. He'll give nothing, take everything, and it'll all be because the voters decided they prefer a soothing fiction to a grim fact.

* The US eventually rectified this, but the massacres could've been stopped years earlier had Hillary Clinton not deliberately killed Bill's original intervention plans in the early 90s.
 
The most disappoint thing is that he isn't really.

He backs down and offers half-assed excuses. Like when he tried to say that one news woman was on the rag and then tried that stupid kiddie bullshit about "uhh, I meant she was bleeding from her nose". It's eerily reminiscent of CWC's "smack your face down monster" line.

My god. Trump is just autistic. That's why so many Americans can relate to him.
 
My god. Trump is just autistic. That's why so many Americans can relate to him.
No, Trump is relatable because he addresses the issues that politicians have deemed "untouchable", as well as encroaching on the establishment's territory. Since Trump is not accepting from (super) PACs or special interests, he is basically free to do what he wants, without fear of consequence. The election of Andrew Jackson pretty much explains the appeal of Trump:
The power of Andrew Jackson’s personality stamped his name indelibly on American history during the 1830s. Then and later, Jackson received credit for many of the trends that emerged during this period; however, it is more accurate to say that he was a manifestation of the social and cultural currents of the time. He was a war hero, an Indian fighter, and in the minds of many, a representative of the common man—particularly since he was the first American president not born to an elite family.
Of course, Trump could be considered to be born into an "elite family", but overall, he is not ruled by others. Hopefully we don't repeat the whole blatantly ignoring the SCOTUS either.

EDIT (this doesn't warrant a new post): Zinger of the Year
 
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Of course, Trump could be considered to be born into an "elite family", but overall, he is not ruled by others. Hopefully we don't repeat the whole blatantly ignoring the SCOTUS either.
Trump is ruled only by others. He's too stupid to think through even the most shallow political ideas at the moral or practical level:

Mark Bowden said:
[Trump] was like one of those characters in an 18th-century comedy meant to embody a particular flavor of human folly. Trump struck me as adolescent, hilariously ostentatious, arbitrary, unkind, profane, dishonest, loudly opinionated, and consistently wrong. He remains the most vain man I have ever met. And he was trying to make a good impression. Who could have predicted that those very traits, now on prominent daily display, would turn him into the leading G.O.P. candidate for president of the United States?

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It was hard to watch the way he treated those around him, issuing peremptory orders—“Polish this, Tony. Today.” He met with the lady who selected his drapery for the Florida estate—“The best! The best! She’s a genius!”—who had selected a sampling of fabrics for him to choose from, all different shades of gold. He left the choice to her, saying only, “I want it really rich. Rich, rich, elegant, incredible.” Then, “Don’t disappoint me.” It was a pattern. Trump did not make decisions. He surrounded himself with “geniuses” and delegated. So long as you did not “disappoint” him—and it was never clear how to avoid doing so—you were gold.

What was clear was how fast and far one could fall from favor. The trip from “genius” to “idiot” was a flash. The former pilots who flew his plane were geniuses, until they made one too many bumpy landings and became “fucking idiots.” The gold carpeting selected in his absence for the locker rooms in the spa at Mar-a-Lago? “What kind of fucking idiot . . . ?” I watched as Trump strutted around the beautifully groomed clay tennis courts on his estate, managed by noted tennis pro Anthony Boulle. The courts had been prepped meticulously for a full day of scheduled matches. Trump took exception to the design of the spaces between courts. In particular, he didn’t like a small metal box—a pump and cooler for the water fountain alongside—which he thought looked ugly. He first questioned its placement, then crudely disparaged it, then kicked the box, which didn’t budge, and then stooped—red-faced and fuming—to tear it loose from its moorings, rupturing a water line and sending a geyser to soak the courts. Boulle looked horrified, a weekend of tennis abruptly drowned. Catching a glimpse of me watching, Trump grimaced.

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As I’ve watched his improbable political rise, it is clear that he hasn’t changed. The very things that made him so unappealing apparently now translate into wide popular support. Apart from the comical ego, the errors, and the self-serving bluster, what you get from Trump are commonplace ideas pronounced as received wisdom. Begin registering all Muslims in America? Round up the families of suspected terrorists? Ban all Muslims from entering the country? Carpet-bomb ISIS-held territories in Iraq (killing the 98-plus percent of civilians who are, in effect, being held hostage there by the terror group and turning a war against a tiny fraction of the world’s Muslims into a global religious crusade)? Using nuclear weapons? The ideas that pop into his head are the same ones that occur to any teenager angry about terror attacks. They appeal to anyone who can’t be bothered to think them through—can’t be bothered to ask not just the moral questions but the all-important practical one: Will doing this makes things better or worse? When you believe in your own genius, you don’t question your own flashes of inspiration.
 
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