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Exactly. A president is only 33% of the government, which isn't even the majority needed to dominate America. Trump can say he is going to do all this stuff, but the reality is that it will never come to fruition without a majority of the congress (House AND Sen) on his side (remember Obama's CHANGE slogan?). And that's without considering that some of the items in his plans would be easily struck down by the SCOTUS, of which, has Obama/Dem appointed judges.
This, of course, is a problem to all presidential candidates. Not once have I seen a major effort by presidential candidates to encourage people to elect favorable people into the congress that could easily push their policies through. They should quit trying to take on stuff that they don't have the influence for, or actually get people engaged in congressional elections.
Bernie's trying to do something like that by calling for some vague and nonspecific "political revolution." It's more paying lip service to that tactic than anything else, but at least he's making some kind of effort to increase political awareness beyond the presidential race.

With Trump, though, it doesn't matter. He can do anything just by saying what he wants done, and then it just happens. Like how he's sued the government of Palm Beach County to make them reroute airplane traffic so it doesn't fly directly over his summer mansion. It's been stuck in legal hell for the past thirty years, but Trump gets what he wants.
 
Bernie's trying to do something like that by calling for some vague and nonspecific "political revolution." It's more paying lip service to that tactic than anything else, but at least he's making some kind of effort to increase political awareness beyond the presidential race.

With Trump, though, it doesn't matter. He can do anything just by saying what he wants done, and then it just happens. Like how he's sued the government of Palm Beach County to make them reroute airplane traffic so it doesn't fly directly over his summer mansion. It's been stuck in legal hell for the past thirty years, but Trump gets what he wants.

Tell Scotland how Drumpf gets what he wants.

They have consistently told him to go fuck himself no matter how much he whines and bitches, like the little bitch he is.
 
Tell Scotland how Drumpf gets what he wants.

They have consistently told him to go fuck himself no matter how much he whines and bitches, like the little bitch he is.
I wish this was true. He successfully appealed to the parliament to override the local authority decision to reject his planning application. The first time it had done so since the 1690's.

Of course Aberdeen city council being what it is they then used a government program to justify setting up a giant windfarm next door.

It is refreshing to see them to treat Donald with the same petty vindictiveness they show the rest of the population. (ACC evicts far more tenants and rejects far more applications than any other local authority. The local civil service has been run by the same two cliques and 4 families for about 60 years and are not shy about bullying and blocking legitimate applications because of a personal dislike of the applicant).
 
Just what is wrong with trump exactly?

Additionally even if you don't like trump then who exactly is a better alternative?

You gonna put jeb bush or hilary clinton in there?
 
Just what is wrong with trump exactly?

Additionally even if you don't like trump then who exactly is a better alternative?

You gonna put jeb bush or hilary clinton in there?

Yeah better put the guy with zero political experience in charge of the entire country. Maybe we should put babies in F-14's while we are at it. Or a dog as a cop.
 
Yeah better put the guy with zero political experience in charge of the entire country. Maybe we should put babies in F-14's while we are at it. Or a dog as a cop.
Both of which are significantly better candidates for any job than Trump.
 
Yeah better put the guy with zero political experience in charge of the entire country. Maybe we should put babies in F-14's while we are at it. Or a dog as a cop.

Dude don't insult Cop Dog. He's a real american hero.

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Yeah better put the guy with zero political experience in charge of the entire country. Maybe we should put babies in F-14's while we are at it. Or a dog as a cop.

Out of the all the presidential candidates who particitipated in at least one of the Democratic or Republican televisted debates, the only candidates who aren't more qualified for office than Trump are Carson and Fiorina. Pick any candidate not named Carson/Fiorina and you got yourself a better candidate than Trump.
 
Yeah better put the guy with zero political experience in charge of the entire country. Maybe we should put babies in F-14's while we are at it. Or a dog as a cop.

You do realize that "political experience" just means "I am really good at scamming the American people".

Trump is self funded so the normal outside interests have no influence on him.

The media has also failed to destroy him which would be the second tactic that would normally level a candidate doing what he is doing.He has in fact turned the media against the people who tried to use it to bring him down.

Why are you so loyal to the establishment?

Let me tell you,they are not loyal to you.

All the other candidates are bought and paid for plain and simple.

The only person who still sticks up for America instead of the establishment is trump.
 
You do realize that "political experience" just means "I am really good at scamming the American people".

Trump is self funded so the normal outside interests have no influence on him.

The media has also failed to destroy him which would be the second tactic that would normally level a candidate doing what he is doing.He has in fact turned the media against the people who tried to use it to bring him down.

Why are you so loyal to the establishment?

Let me tell you,they are not loyal to you.

All the other candidates are bought and paid for plain and simple.

The only person who still sticks up for America instead of the establishment is trump.

Meh... Go ahead & try saying that if he gets in and decides to blow up half the world that doesn't agree with him, which he likely will, too.
 
Just what is wrong with trump exactly?

Additionally even if you don't like trump then who exactly is a better alternative?

You gonna put jeb bush or hilary clinton in there?

Careful brah, if you hadnt noticed yet, the doubters qill never stop doubting, but all you can do is enjoy the confidence you get believing that someone like Trump may actually become President.

I mean, with Hillary "going to the bathroom" for 40 minutes, during a televise debate mind you, i completely agree with you.

Just make sure you vote now. I probably wont vote in the primary, but Trump is definitely getting it in the General. Just like they say, us non-traditional voters are just loving it.
 
Meh... Go ahead & try saying that if he gets in and decides to blow up half the world that doesn't agree with him, which he likely will, too.

Well lets analyze this rationally.

Who exactly has Donald Trump threatened/promoted war against other than ISIS?

Donald Trump gets along good with Putin and many other places.

To my knowledge he has not expressed any direct hostility to anyone aside from ISIS.

Now on the other hand lets take your "qualified" candidates.

They are all pushing for war in Syria.

They are also becoming increasingly hostile with Russia due to the actions in Ukraine and due to the fact that they want to topple the Assad regime.

Why do you think Russia is backing Assad?

They already took down Saddam in Iraq (under false pretenses-weapons of mass destruction-now known to be lies) and Gaddafi in Libya.

They are the ones who want blood.Not Donald Trump.

Also they are in league with Turkey who is a NATO ally that buys oil from ISIS which has been proven by the Russian government.How come NATO doesn't come down on Turkey?

How come the US doesn't come down on ISIS?

Think about all of it.

Lets actually talk facts here.
 
Well lets analyze this rationally.

Who exactly has Donald Trump threatened/promoted war against other than ISIS?

Donald Trump gets along good with Putin and many other places.

To my knowledge he has not expressed any direct hostility to anyone aside from ISIS.

Now on the other hand lets take your "qualified" candidates.

They are all pushing for war in Syria.

They are also becoming increasingly hostile with Russia due to the actions in Ukraine and due to the fact that they want to topple the Assad regime.

Why do you think Russia is backing Assad?

They already took down Saddam in Iraq (under false pretenses-weapons of mass destruction-now known to be lies) and Gaddafi in Libya.

They are the ones who want blood.Not Donald Trump.

Also they are in league with Turkey who is a NATO ally that buys oil from ISIS which has been proven by the Russian government.How come NATO doesn't come down on Turkey?

How come the US doesn't come down on ISIS?

Think about all of it.

Lets actually talk facts here.

All this doesnt matter to Lefties because it has nothing to do with "rights" for certain minorities.

And....... Cl-EYE-mate change, something that, when Al Gore first spoke of it, us Conservatives just went, "Duh!"
 
Now on the other hand lets take your "qualified" candidates.

They are all pushing for war in Syria.

I don't know what are the patricular positions of each one of the candidates more qualified than Trump (again, this mean everybody notable enough to be invited to debates save Carson and Fiorina) but I know for certain that Cruz is against intervention in Syria. I don't think I would vote for him if I were an American but still, if you want an anti-intervention in Syria candidate Cruz is better than Trump.
 
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The only person who still sticks up for America instead of the establishment is trump.

The only person Trump sticks up for is Trump. He serves is own self interests not Americas.

You do realize that "political experience" just means "I am really good at scamming the American people".
So why would this not apply to Trump? Because he says so? He has scammed America for over a decade with shitty television and branding. Remember Trump Steaks? But now he should have executive power?

Why are you so loyal to the establishment?
Nice dig! It's more about the fact that I trust in a candidate and I don't hate the powers that be. Sorry you're so jaded about politics though.
 
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Well, from what I see is that Trump is the lesser of many evils. Hillary Clinton in my own estimate should be in jail for trying to hide her emails, Bernie Sanders is just some weak cuck.
 
I don't know what are the patricular positions of each one of the candidates more qualified than Trump (again, this mean everybody notable enough to be invited to debates save Carson and Fiorina) but I know for certain that Cruz is against intervention in Syria. I don't think I would vote for him if I were an American but still, if you want an anti-intervention in Syria candidate Cruz is better than Trump.

I want to like Ted Cruz but he is presently a bit suspect to me.

He has some suspicious ties and associations of which I do not approve.

Also I don't get why you are saying Ted Cruz is more anti-intervention in Syria than Donald is.They both seem to be on the same page on it rather the one being superior to the other.

Another thing that should be said about Ted Cruz is that to me he just doesn't have the type of ferocious charisma and sway that Donald has.He might make for a a good Texas Senator but as the president of the United States going up against the current state of the world today I just don't believe in him to have the kind of influence that is necessary.

It isn't just about the ideas of the person you have to consider their power of personality as well.

If there is anyone that has a chance to fight the establishment he would be it.I've never seen anything like it before in fact ever with any other person that I can think of.

There have been other people who have had great thoughts and ideas but they were never ever able to achieve mainstream popularity and recognition.They were always on the fringe and never taken seriously.Such as Ron Paul.They were just a big joke no matter how intelligent and correct they might be.They just couldn't capture the hearts and minds of the people which is just as important as having good ideas.

Something else is that Donald Trump is actually the influence for alot of what Ted Cruz is at this point.If Donald had never existed then Ted Cruz would be not have evolved in the way that he has.In a way he's been kind of like a political mentor for Ted.So there is also that.

Alot of the things that have become big issues like Syrian refugees and Mexican immigration are big issues because of Donald Trump bringing them up and making them one.

As things stand now Donald is a much much better option than Ted Cruz.

The only person Trump sticks up for is Trump. He serves is own self interests not Americas.

Maybe he is not perfect but really can you that any of the other candidates are any better at all?

Who is more selfless then and why?

In terms of what he is advocating he is the most people oriented candidate since everything he is promoting are all about empowering America and Americans.

Maybe you might make the argument that it's a whole lot of bluster that won't be put into motion once he's actually in office.And it's just a bunch of talk.

But you know what?That's been every other president we've had for over a decade along with everyone else who's currently running so if anything we have much to gain and nothing to lose.At best he just won't deliver.But it's hard for me to see him actually damaging the country.Certainly no worse than Hilary or Jeb would do.

And above and beyond you must realize the simple fact that such a mainstream and popular person is bringing the narrative that he is bringing to the public is huge.The mere fact that he is bringing this kind of thinking and consciousness to the American people alone makes him 100% worthwhile in my mind.Even if he doesn't get elected or doesn't deliver.

So why would this not apply to Trump? Because he says so? He has scammed America for over a decade with shitty television and branding. Remember Trump Steaks? But now he should have executive power?

I still need to do alot more research on Trump in terms of his history and background and the totality of his past since that is something I do not have intimate knowledge of just surface level understanding.

But currently I am judging him based on his current behavior and more importantly what ideas and strategies he is presenting.

And all of them are pro American and anti establishment.

They are all things which would empower America and empower Americans.

That instead of the current crippling and destruction of it that you are currently witnessing.

Preserving America is important because traditional America represents so many great things.

You must understand why America is important and why it was created in the first place.

America is not just a country.It is an idea and a set of principles.

America was originally created as a response to tyranny and evil.It was created to protect the people from the monsters who always exist who seek to subjugate and control their fellow man.

The constitution and the bill of rights aren't just some archaic relics of the 18th century.They are a safe guard against the tyranny of evil men.That is why they were created.

They applied to protection from government corruption and human abuse of power then and they still apply now.

That by the way is what the establishment is at at this point.They are like the corrupted king of england back in the american revolutionary war.

America is the david to their goliath.

This is about anti assimilation to global power.

That is why America must be preserved and restored to strength.It must be revitalized.

Everything Donald Trump is proposing and promoting are in line with that purpose.

Have you not even noticed just how much the establishment hates him?Including almost all of the republican party?

The people like Donald Trump.The establishment and those in power do not.They hate him with an intense passion.That should tell you something.

He is wreaking havoc upon their agenda.

Nice dig! It's more about the fact that I trust in a candidate and I don't hate the powers that be. Sorry you're so jaded about politics though.

Is it wrong to dislike corruption and evil?

Do you really feel that the US government or the candidates you favor actually have your best interests at heart?

I'm sure we can both agree that a corrupt ruler is bad and should be removed from the power.

So the question then becomes are the "powers that be" corrupt or not?

Since you don't seem to think they are I'd be curious as to why you don't think so.

Well, from what I see is that Trump is the lesser of many evils. Hillary Clinton in my own estimate should be in jail for trying to hide her emails, Bernie Sanders is just some weak cuck.

It's kind of silly that Trump is actually supposed to be a demon yet Hilary Clinton is some sort of angel.

If the government was not corrupted then Hilary would be facing legal action and criminal prosecution.

But of course she does not because she is after all the "powers that be".

She is just another human being like you and I so why should one human be elevated above others?If we did the same things we'd be in jail.

Lets not forget about all the sins of Bill Clinton yet he has never been prosecuted or gone to jail despite lying under oath to the whole American population while undertaking the highest responsibility of the united states-being the president.

Progressives and liberals love Hilary and Bill.So how come they won't call them out on their abuse and exploitation of women?

Hilary is the champion of equality right?

Is that why she has a net worth of $31.5 million dollars?

This is where progressivism gets cracked wide open.

They constantly rant about "equality" but their hypocrisy shows that they are for anything but true equality.

Progressivism has nothing to do with real equality at all.

It is literally the wolf in sheeps clothing.
 
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America was originally created as a response to tyranny and evil.It was created to protect the people from the monsters who always exist who seek to subjugate and control their fellow man.
America was created so a relatively small group of reasonably wealthy white men could get away without paying taxes. In that sense I agree trump fits the mould perfectly!
 
America was created so a relatively small group of reasonably wealthy white men could get away without paying taxes. In that sense I agree trump fits the mould perfectly!

C'mon, this is not first-quarter first-year freshman history class. You of all people know better than that.


As for Trump's surge, a thing like this was inevitable. There is a deep populist vein that Trump is tapping and it is working. Most people in America believe it should run a certain way - if you work hard and follow the rules, then you can succeed. We have seen over the past 35 years a group of people continuously break the rules and produce little of real value in the process. They have seen this group continuously become wealthy and get great benefits from the government while their own costs have increased and their wages have stagnated to fuel wall street demands. Many have watched as their pensions get raided and their 401k's seem to always take a dive every 8 years, yet the fortunes of the wealthy stay secure.

I am not some crazed liberal saying this. I am a Jeb supporter, but even I can see that there has been a lot of waste and abuse created by the upper class. I support more stringent policy and appreciate a person with actual experience in government to be effective. Also, I know that the upper class will not easily submit to higher taxes, but a guy like Jeb could, at least, pull it off without invoking the ire of the side of the country most likely to kneejerk oppose it.

Still, there is also one other thing that should strike people. There is a lot of overlap for both Bernie and Trump's candidacies as well as their draw from other respective parties. That populist vein runs in both parties and if one wins at this point, they could take the white house. Clinton or an establishment republican would not stand a chance against the other side's populist candidate. This is the aspect that has both parties extremely concerned.

The party may be over.
 
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