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I think the moment when Jeb withered and faded was when he demanded Trump apologize for some outrageous shit Trump said about his wife. Trump basically laughed in his face.

Whichever advisor told Jeb to "get tough" didn't explain it very well. Jeb's "confront, then back down" combines the worst of both worlds. Backing down makes him look weak, but confronting means he can't try to minimise Trump by ignoring him or trying to rise above him.
 
Found this parody on the web, its pretty great.


I think he's a raving narcissist whose only managed to come so far in the race thanks to his hyperbole and ability to shoot down his opponents in the debates and dominate the news cycle with his wall building skills. As an Australian, all we ever hear in the MSM about the presidential race is whatever Trump says or the controversy surrounding him. He currently eclipses both the fifteen other Republicans and the Democrat candidates, unless of course their reactions are reported.
 
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I think he's a raving narcissist whose only managed to come so far in the race thanks to his hyperbole and ability to shoot down his opponents in the debates and dominate the news cycle with his wall building skills. As an Australian, all we ever hear in the MSM about the presidential race is whatever Trump says or the controversy surrounding him. He currently eclipses both the fifteen other Republicans and the Democrat candidates, unless of course their reactions are reported.
Not necessarily.

The democratic "race" atm is basically Hillary Clinton running around not giving much of a shit since she's pretty much already the nominee, while a bunch of college students who are too lazy to actually vote suck Bernie Sanders dick and christen him the second coming of Ron P- Christ.
 
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a bunch of college students who are too lazy to actually vote suck Bernie Sanders dick and christen him the second coming of Ron P- Christ.

Try Ralph N-Christ

The Paulistas are an entirely different demographic, fuck knows who they're supporting this time around tho
 
The Democrats aren't really responding to Trump since they have no reason to. Sanders called him a lunatic and that's been about it. They aren't competing for the same voters.
 
Try Ralph N-Christ

The Paulistas are an entirely different demographic, fuck knows who they're supporting this time around tho

I'd assume Rand? I don't know though. I grew out of Ron Paul around the time I tuned 20.

Most of the Paulistas I know are pretty solidly Libertarian supporters now (read: Gary Johnson fanboys) or "anarcho"- capitalists (read: "I don't vote lol 2edgy5u")
 
I'd assume Rand? I don't know though. I grew out of Ron Paul around the time I tuned 20.

In Iowa it would appear as if most of the Ron Paul supporters of 2012 are not flocking towards his son. If you look at the 2016 election polls among Iowa Republicans you'll find that Rand was doing somewhat good earlier this year, in some cases polling around 10%. However, in all polls from October and later on he polls at either 5% or less among Iowa's Republican voters. In contrast, Ron won 21.43% of the votes in the 2012 Iowa Republican Cacuses. This might not be totally reflective on Ron Paul voters outside of Iowa as I gather Iowa Paulistas tend to be more socially conservative than Paulistas from other states.
 
The Democrats aren't really responding to Trump since they have no reason to. Sanders called him a lunatic and that's been about it. They aren't competing for the same voters.

The more Trump fucks up the Republican primary, the better for Hillary. So she has no motivation to do anything to counter her old friend.

She of course couldn't care less whether it hurts the country in the process.
 
The Democrats aren't really responding to Trump since they have no reason to. Sanders called him a lunatic and that's been about it. They aren't competing for the same voters.

It was be a massive misstep to even get involved. The GOP seems content to tear itself to shreds like it has in the past few elections, and the only thing the Dems could do by interjecting is possibly distracting them from that goal.
 
In Iowa it would appear as if most of the Ron Paul supporters of 2012 are not flocking towards his son.

Paul's poll numbers are too anemic to be attracting anything more than a small fragment of his dad's supporters. A few Paulitarians I've talked to said that they felt Rand was more 'establishment' than his dad; not sure if that's anything more than anecdotal, though. I have to say the big surprise to me of the Republican primaries is Paul's poor performance. Bush has also underperformed but in a way that isn't that surprising - his relative 'inauthenticity' and establishment credentials were always seen as his weakness, even if most commenters didn't expect them to be quite such significant weaknesses. But by all rights Rand should be doing well - the political strains that his dad so successfully milked are still there, indeed, they're arguably stronger than ever. It may be that he's simply not a very good campaigner.

As an aside I think the Dems are collectively being quite wise by not really engaging with Trump. His supporters are only going to take Democratic attacks on him as ammunition, and in the unlikely event of Trump winning the nomination, it costs them nothing to keep their powder dry.
 
I think the moment when Jeb withered and faded was when he demanded Trump apologize for some outrageous shit Trump said about his wife. Trump basically laughed in his face.

It made Jeb look like a weak, pathetic cuck who couldn't defend his woman.

So there's a debate right now, Jeb is going at Trump:


It's not clear from twitter just who pwned who:

 
Try Ralph N-Christ

The Paulistas are an entirely different demographic, fuck knows who they're supporting this time around tho
I meant more in the sense that he's the candidate that people on tumblr or Facebook never shut the fuck up about.

I mean these are the same people who only supported Ron Paul because of internet memes.

So there's a debate right now, Jeb is going at Trump:

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It's not clear from twitter just who pwned who:

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I'd be willing to bet Trump "pwned" Jeb more than anything else, simply by virtue of Trump being Trump and Jeb being well...Jeb.
 
A few Paulitarians I've talked to said that they felt Rand was more 'establishment' than his dad; not sure if that's anything more than anecdotal, though.
Back when I ran some call in talk shows there was a common theme of how Rand wasn't hardcore enough. From what it seems if you're into that stuff you're going to want it balls-to-the-wall, so a more moderate form is about the worst possible thing, like diet cola.
 
Trump will hand the Presidency to his friend Hillary!! - Friends don't let friends ruin their home.

I'm sorry, but I'm just getting really sick of that one. It's such a desperate claim.

And if it was so true, what's so wrong about it? Don't you want Hillary? No, all you want is not Trump.

40% in and he is still absolutely never getting the nomination, huh? (But how does that help Hillary? These theories just don't stay consistent)
 
And if it was so true, what's so wrong about it? Don't you want Hillary? No, all you want is not Trump.

Hillary is a scummy, unprincipled politician vastly more interested in personal aggrandizement than the country, who will sell us down the river with yet more shitty globalization trade deals. She will, like Obama, mouth pieties about the dying middle class as she shovels dirt on its coffin.

There's also the fact that she's just another Clinton after this country has had it up to here with Clintons and Bushes.

She will also, in all likelihood, beat whoever the Republicans put up, but definitely Trump if by some perverse miracle he wins the nomination.

Do you not think she would be attacking him constantly if she would benefit from doing that? Do you get that she never does anything without a self-serving motive and that she never fails to pursue a perceived advantage?

Her campaign clearly benefits from Trump enough to withhold attacks on him.
 
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