💬 Off-Topic Troon-related relationship fuckups - When gender dysphoria complicates serious relationships

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Aero the Alcoholic Bat

Aero the Alcoholic Bat

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So yes, what it sounds like.

Any stories about people who selfishly troon out despite being having a significant other who doesn't entirely appreciate it.

Or stories about people who knowingly enter a relationship with a troon, breaking the cardinal rule to never stick one's dick into crazy (or never let crazy stick his dick into you). And the resulting drama that comes with dating a lunatic who can't make heads or tails of what's between their fucking legs.

Or even two troons in a relationship causing drama for each other.

My tax:

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Troon drama is always great, its basically in their egocentric nature to make every little thing in their life as dramatic as possible
 
Yes please! For some reason it always makes me warm and fuzzy inside to read about men throwing away their good life because of the coom.

Good find btw! You rarely see gay dudes troon out.
 
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I’m trying to be understanding and sympathetic because I realize this is hard for her. She’s known me one way for seven years (I transitioned first when we started dating; she met me as very female presenting but knew I was ftm and planned to take T when she met me) and now I’m pulling the rug out from under her and saying I want to be recognized as female again. But in her mind, a woman looks like a woman and a man looks like a man. She says she can’t think of me as a woman when I still look so masculine. She also said she’s done changing things for me and that she’s been calling me her husband and she’s not about to call me her wife, and I’m being entitled by asking people to change pronouns again. She might be right; I have noticed that as trans people we’re a lot more self-absorbed than average, in some ways. We think about ourselves and how the world sees us as lot more than someone without dysphoria does.
I don’t know. It just hurts because she means so much to me and I don’t care so much that random strangers think I’m male: I care that she does. She won’t recognize my femaleness. She says things like, “you’re not female anymore. You don’t have breasts. You don’t have ovaries. You’ve got hair on your chest. You’re a man.” She doesn’t see why that might be hurtful to me.
But I realize that she has a point - I can’t force her to see me as a woman when she never has. That’s what the trans movement does and it’s not fair to people. We can’t ask people to bend their reality and then get angry when they can’t see us how we want to be seen. And the reality is she sees me as a man. Maybe I can find a way to just get over it and resign myself to being her husband for the rest of our lives. I dunno.
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I don't think anyone who isn't already into the gender shit will conciously enter a relationship with a troon. I have never, and I mean never seen a normal self-respecting man or woman get in a relationship with a troon.
 
AGP said:
I can’t force her to see me as a woman when she never has. That’s what the trans movement does and it’s not fair to people. We can’t ask people to bend their reality and then get angry when they can’t see us how we want to be seen
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Shocked, this is the most self aware troon post I've ever seen.
 
TyrasGuard said:
I don't think anyone who isn't already into the gender shit will conciously enter a relationship with a troon. I have never, and I mean never seen a normal self-respecting man or woman get in a relationship with a troon.
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That's the thing, they can trap you.

You think you've married a nice, normal man, you're happy, content, maybe you have a kid on the way, and then, just when you least expect it, when you're at your most vulnerable and you have everything to lose by walking away, LOL SURPRISE BITCH, I'M A TRANNY NOW!!

I've seen it time and time again and it's so insidious and abusive and my heart breaks for these poor women.
 
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AGP said:
But in her mind, a woman looks like a woman and a man looks like a man. She says she can’t think of me as a woman when I still look so masculine. She also said she’s done changing things for me and that she’s been calling me her husband and she’s not about to call me her wife, and I’m being entitled by asking people to change pronouns again.She won’t recognize my femaleness. She says things like, “you’re not female anymore. You don’t have breasts. You don’t have ovaries. You’ve got hair on your chest. You’re a man.”
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That was an unexpected reaction. I guess her lesbian wife prefers keepin' it simple? Or straight appearing to the outside world?
 
Miriam Margoyles said:
That's the thing, they can trap you.

You think you've married a nice, normal man, you're happy, content, maybe you have a kid on the way, and then, just when you least expect it, when you're at your most vulnerable and you have everything to lose by walking away, LOL SURPRISE BITCH, I'M A TRANNY NOW!!

I've seen it time and time again and it's so insidious and abusive and my heart breaks for these poor women.
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Or even worse, they become troons themselves too.
 
Anasa Tristis said:
That was an unexpected reaction. I guess her lesbian wife prefers keepin' it simple? Or straight appearing to the outside world?
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There is no way a woman wants to be known as the woman who dates the faggot in her friends' circle.
 
RACISM said:
Shocked, this is the most self aware troon post I've ever seen.
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I'm not so sure about this, it almost seems like this is just an extension of the usual "everyone play along with my fetish". If it was an MTF, I'd say that was absolutely the case: a dude pretending to be a woman, then fake-complaining about how he wants to de-transition but he's just such a convincing "woman" that even real women just can't possibly imagine him as a man.

I understand the FTM mental disorder even less, so I'm not 100% certain, but I bet it's similar with a twist of "I can totally do and be anything a man can, but also I'm tearing down the patriarchy by showing bigots that women can have hairy knuckles". And the bit about how the troon community can't expect people to stop believing their lying eyes will turn into a hugbox of "we're so reasonable and understanding of those poor uneducated normies who haven't memorized this week's dozen new pronoun rules, obviously the State needs to groom children into our ideology even younger".
 
A YouTube comment gem that I was never able to forget. Look how sad this is. Although the last sentence is great, this woman is showing the insane troon way too much undeserved respect. He's a sociopath.
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Cross-posting from Trannies posting their L’s thread

Another man is confused because blowing up his marriage has not increased his joy (snip only, full text in spoiler).

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How do you really know?​

How do you know you are trans? How did it feel coming out? Were you certain or did you go by feel? Did you doubt? Did you feel shame?

I (AMAB, 34) came out to my wife of 13 years. We have two children together (11 & 8). I would say it definitely did not go well. I was clear my gender identity didn’t change the way I felt about her. My wife is completely sure she doesn’t want to be with a trans person. I’ve spent weeks watching my wife grieve the relationship she thought she’d have forever. I’ve been told I’ll make an ugly woman, that I’m choosing something superficial over my family, that I should just love myself the way I was made, that I’m going to make life hard for my kids at school… our marriage is over, I’m sleeping in the guest room trying not to wake up anxious in the middle of the night.

Since coming out, all of the inner joy and longing the idea of transitioning used to spark is nowhere to be found. There are so many unknowns to just being trans on its own let alone it ending my family. I’m an executive with a fairly public position and live in a small town. I have parents in their 60’s that would be confused at best and in-laws who are in ministry. Speaking of small town… I’m scared I’d never find anyone who’d want to be with me… not that that’s a priority at the moment.

I’m trying all sorts of mental exercises ( if you could push a button and have always been a woman would you? How would you feel if everyone else as supportive? Who would you be on an island by yourself) but in the end of the day I’m scared I’m just confused and am going to lose so much for nothing. I just want my family back. Is it love to cleave off and discard an aspect of yourself to be with the people you care deeply for? Is it even possible to call that a relationship? If I love my children can I just put it aside until they are grown for their sake? All questions and the longer this hurt sits with me the more tempted I am to just pull the parachute and try to take everything back. I felt so confident and strong at first… now it just feels like my heart played a trick on me.

I know that I felt closeted and rejected (came out as bisexual two years ago and that didn’t go well either so I was able to anticipate how this would go a bit) but it’s tempting to just take it all back. I feel like I have some choice or control over how I feel and sometimes feel guilty like I led myself here on purpose or “manipulated myself” into this. My wife even brought up a concern that my therapist had as putting ideas into my brain. Somehow the way I feel internally is someone’s “worst case scenario.”

I’m safe, I have therapy and mental health support fyi. I’m just in a lot of pain and I feel confused and scared.

Based wife.

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Transitioning is narcissistic, imo. So really, think: why are self-obsessed people horrible partners?
Most people know not to get involved with narcissists, but sometimes you don't see that they are one right away. Sad - I assume in some of these situations, a person would find that out when their partner confides that they "might be trans"
 
I really shouldn’t powerlevel like this, but… as someone who would like to finally achieve stability in life and settle down with someone special, this thread would eventually depress me to read a lot of, outside the extremely funny ones. Maybe I am far too idealistic or been by myself too long, perhaps both, but I truly, genuinely do not understand how one could become so self-centered and do such a thing like trooning out when they find love and a successful relationship in today’s hellish dating landscape and clown world. Meh…
 
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