Trolling Ethics Debate Thread

[SonChu's Oil Change]

I do think it would be funny to have a fake press "gang bang" when Chris leaves court. Hang out with the other news photogs, get a few feet of him walking on public property where that's permitted, go home, post here.

 

[DrunkTails]

But of course!

Unfortunately, some people do believe that. They forget how astoundingly gullible Chris is, and in truth tricking Chris requires neither courage nor skill.

Old Chris maybe. But Tomgirl Chris has become harder to prank. Not because he has wizened up to the trolls, but because he has become so paranoid that he thinks that every living being out there that isn't his mother or the few insane white knights he has are trolls. The mailman? Troll. The guy behind him at the supermarket? Troll.

 

[cal2025]

(This isn't only pertaining to Chris but to trolling in general) I just feel like when trolling crosses the boundary from provoking a reaction to outright harassment, it's gone way too far. There's nothing funny or clever about making death threats, for example. I think that most people understand this, but there are still quite a few people (like weens) out there who think that harassment = A+ trolling.

I agree, but it's also really really hard to feel bad for Chris when he receives death threats considering how many he's given out himself.

 

[Boundman]

Honestly, I've always drawn the line when you just attack soneone.

A lolcow is a cow because it has udders - which are its faults. Chris' fault is his ego and his gullibility. Trolling a lolcow isn't about pissing the cow off, it's about manipulating those faults so the only person the cow has to blame is themselves.

ABL is the master of this, Chris' ego and own inability to understand cause him to lash out, and when Alec calls Chris and acts rational, Chris exposes his flaws in an embarrassing way, and the only person at fault is Chris himself. Chris was forced to give out a forgiveness blessing, and had to acknowledge he had been wrong. And it was all delivered with interesting revelations about Chris, a great comic and a nice refreshing glass of lolmilk straight from the cow.

A ween, whilst pissing Chris off and getting him to react, doesn't milk the cow but kicks it in the udders until it gives milk. And it's sub-par milk for it.

tl;dr: Manipulate Chris' faults so he trolls himself, don't rub those faults in his face until he gets annoyed.

 

[DrunkTails]

Couldn't agree more. Trolling that is funny is more along the lines of an elaborate practical joke that, at worst, only wounds the victims pride for being so gullible, like that long running Shigeru Miyamoto saga, which was amusing because all it did was milk Chris gullibility for the lulz and hurt no one aside from Chris' ego.

Lines are crossed when you cause the subject harm and grief beyond simple loss of face, like the infamous Bluespike medallion incident, which could have caused Chris rectal damage as well causing a man of mental fragility genuine psychological harm (Chris was legitimately upset over that incident as I recall), and malicious tormenting someone for your own pleasure like Bluespike did is when trolling stops being funny and starts being fucked up.

In a way Bluespike was the proto-ween of his time as MLW was a proto-troll. Neither or the two knew that they would serve as icons of the time. I doubt that Bluespike intentionally wanted to harm Chris at the time, one must remember that he was 13 during that incident. I think he was more of the kid who wants to hang out with the cool kids type of person. The fact that some trolls demanded him to stop when they realized that he was going to far might actually be an indication that he was trying to go above and beyond.
Sadly Bluespike's actios may have served as a rallying point where the line between weens and aloggers is blurred to the point that neither is distiguishable from the other. The more malicious of weens may claim to troll Chris when in reality he's practically mentally torturing him.
Is the near 24/7 trolling of chris good? No, even the sanest of minds would be driven crazy. But one must remember the difference between practical joke where no one is harmed and the harmful desires of a ween.

 

[Some JERK]

Old Chris maybe. But Tomgirl Chris has become harder to prank. Not because he has wizened up to the trolls, but because he has become so paranoid that he thinks that every living being out there that isn't his mother or the few insane white knights he has are trolls. The mailman? Troll. The guy behind him at the supermarket? Troll.

The line between "wise" and "paranoid" has always been a slippery slope that even emotionally stable people have been known to tumble down from time to time. Chris had virtually no chance of walking it successfully.

The original trolls served the purpose of exposing Chris's shitty behavior. Was he just a sweet, yet misunderstood person like Anna claimed? Were the jerkops, MLW, Snyder and Megan just overreacting because they misinterpreted the honest intentions of an autistic individual? Now that we have direct evidence that he's lazy, greedy, selfish, vindictive, childish and delusional, there's little to no benefit in reaffirming what we already know by trolling him more. The only continued benefit in interaction with Chris is for information, and that doesn't actually require "trolling" him.

 

[Anonimo]

Just how much trolling do these weens do on a daily basis? Surely they don't literally take time out of every day just to yell "JULAAAY" or "IM BATMAN" into a phone. I not buying the idea of weens being that persistent.

 

[DrunkTails]

I never understood why people wanted to troll in the first place. I am grateful for the people who did it, and did it well, and for the content they provided. But you have to be a pretty big no-lifer to want to get in on it yourself and spent hours and hours on "epic trolling schemes" when there's others who are already doing it, and doing it better. You put in a shit ton of work and in the most likely scenario, get ignored. If you succeed you still lose ten out of ten times because people call you a ween faggot, and in the rare case people cheer you on, is it really worth the effort?

Some people want to be a part of the "inner circle" of trolling the world's most autistic man so desperately, it's gotta be the worlds most autistic thing ever.

I honestly believe that a lot of weens may be no lifers themselves. Heck even the attempts of this forum to troll chris with Catherine and fake galpal-hired-help have been seen as weenish. Sadly no matter how much one tries to warn off weens, weens keep trying to troll Chris with the depressing belief that they can become the next Clyde/Jack/Bluespike/etc. Even if they succeed, is it worth it? The highest probability is that most people will ignore the accomplishments and the ween who did it. The fact that they believe that their some secret inner circle of people ho are scheming for the next trolling gig is sad.

I think the best form of trolling Chris is when people just let himbe himself. Hilarious events such as and have all been Chris made, not trolls.

 

[Cuck Norris]

I honestly believe that a lot of weens may be no lifers themselves. Heck even the attempts of this forum to troll chris with Catherine and fake galpal-hired-help have been seen as weenish. Sadly no matter how much one tries to warn off weens, weens keep trying to troll Chris with the depressing belief that they can become the next Clyde/Jack/Bluespike/etc. Even if they succeed, is it worth it? The highest probability is that most people will ignore the accomplishments and the ween who did it. The fact that they believe that their some secret inner circle of people ho are scheming for the next trolling gig is sad.

I think the best form of trolling Chris is when people just let himbe himself. Hilarious events such as and have all been Chris made, not trolls.

And let's not forget that, while people know who BlueSpike is, his legacy will forever be "that 13 year old kid that made a grown autistic man shove crayola model magic up his ass".

 

[DrunkTails]

And let's not forget that, while people know who BlueSpike is, his legacy will forever be "that 13 year old kid that made a grown autistic man shove crayola model magic up his ass".

That and the fact that people like Liquid are most probably going to be reminded that they are the people responsible for trolling an autistic individual. Fame does come with a price tag, and most prices are very high .

 

[timtommy]

I honestly believe that a lot of weens may be no lifers themselves. Heck even the attempts of this forum to troll chris with Catherine and fake galpal-hired-help have been seen as weenish. Sadly no matter how much one tries to warn off weens, weens keep trying to troll Chris with the depressing belief that they can become the next Clyde/Jack/Bluespike/etc. Even if they succeed, is it worth it? The highest probability is that most people will ignore the accomplishments and the ween who did it. The fact that they believe that their some secret inner circle of people ho are scheming for the next trolling gig is sad.

There are so many trolls and weens. If each of them spends a total of a couple hours a week actively trolling Chris, the sum total of the trolling attempts is massive. The idea "Chris is constantly being hassled so there must be people out there who constantly hassle Chris" is backwards Chris logic. We shouldn't fall into it.

I think the best form of trolling Chris is when people just let himbe himself. Hilarious events such as and have all been Chris made, not trolls.

I do see that argument. Chris does get up to the most hilarious adventures on his own. But if that content wasn't released, we wouldn't know about it. And a lot of the time releasing that content requires some level of trolling/weening (you can disagree with the semantics of that statement if you want, but I think you know what I am getting at.)

The pre-trolling stuff at GamePlace/PVCC is funny, but noone knew about it at the time. This blue arms stuff is funny, but things like the GameStop video are crucial to our understanding.

I guess my point is, I think the "let Chris be Chris" point has some validity, but there is a limit to how much that lets us get on our high horse about not trolling him.

 

[Someone in a Tree]

Just how much trolling do these weens do on a daily basis? Surely they don't literally take time out of every day just to yell "JULAAAY" or "IM BATMAN" into a phone. I not buying the idea of weens being that persistent.

I imagine that the issue is not the weens being persistent. It's the weens being numerous. New people discover Chris every day, and I'm sure a handful of them can't resist trying to become a part of Christory.

 

[Cuck Norris]

There are so many trolls and weens. If each of them spends a total of a couple hours a week actively trolling Chris, the sum total of the trolling attempts is massive. The idea "Chris is constantly being hassled so there must be people out there who constantly hassle Chris" is backwards Chris logic. We shouldn't fall into it.



I do see that argument. Chris does get up to the most hilarious adventures on his own. But if that content wasn't released, we wouldn't know about it. And a lot of the time releasing that content requires some level of trolling/weening (you can disagree with the semantics of that statement if you want, but I think you know what I am getting at.)

The pre-trolling stuff at GamePlace/PVCC is funny, but noone knew about it at the time. This blue arms stuff is funny, but things like the GameStop video are crucial to our understanding.

I guess my point is, I think the "let Chris be Chris" point has some validity, but there is a limit to how much that lets us get on our high horse about not trolling him.

Except he used to release that Content himself until Ivy or Jackie, I think Jackie, convinced him to stop making videos. Prior to that trolls were a catalyst for the content, not the only source. Yeah the trolls released the phone calls and shit but most of them are boring as shit anyway.

 

[Marvin]

Except he used to release that Content himself until Ivy or Jackie, I think Jackie, convinced him to stop making videos. Prior to that trolls were a catalyst for the content, not the only source. Yeah the trolls released the phone calls and shit but most of them are boring as shit anyway.

Chris rarely released content on his own. When he did, it was in response to troll prompting. There's not much of a distinction between source and catalyst in this case. Basically: without trolls, without the audience, we wouldn't have a tenth of the good Chris content we do.

 

[AnOminous]

Just how much trolling do these weens do on a daily basis? Surely they don't literally take time out of every day just to yell "JULAAAY" or "IM BATMAN" into a phone. I not buying the idea of weens being that persistent.

With their food source nearly evaporated, I doubt they do this that often. They are like the porn ponyfags who moved on to make FNAF porn. Yes. That exists.

But there is far too much harassment of people like Chris by literal retards. It happens.

 

[IncinerateChicken]

Just how much trolling do these weens do on a daily basis? Surely they don't literally take time out of every day just to yell "JULAAAY" or "IM BATMAN" into a phone. I not buying the idea of weens being that persistent.

They aren't, because by definition weens are simply people with nothing better to do. A troll is best defined as someone who works to exploit Chris for our (and their) amusement (which is nearly impossible to do anymore, because of his paranoia). They make a job out of it. Take from that what you will.

Christorians just want to catalogue the madness that already exists, because there's a lot of it.

Honestly, at this point, I don't think there's much more point in trolling him, because his life is already headed downhill so quickly that I'd be shocked if he ever became a productive member of society. I think we should just sit back and watch as he inevitably violates parole, or maces someone else, or any other of the legion possibilities that he'll eventually convince himself is a good idea.

 

[nyelva]

I'm just starting to read through this thread but I have to say: I don't give a fuck that skyraider went through Chris' garbage for the old homework and I can guarantee that I would've done the same. That's the least offensive thing about any of the trolling thus far if I'm gonna take a moral stance either way.

 

[Male Idiot]

I'm just starting to read through this thread but I have to say: I don't give a fuck that skyraider went through Chris' garbage for the old homework and I can guarantee that I would've done the same. That's the least offensive thing about any of the trolling thus far if I'm gonna take a moral stance either way.

Agreed. Skyraider was harming no one, apart maybe from his clothes!

 

[cal2025]

I'm just starting to read through this thread but I have to say: I don't give a fuck that skyraider went through Chris' garbage for the old homework and I can guarantee that I would've done the same. That's the least offensive thing about any of the trolling thus far if I'm gonna take a moral stance either way.

Agreed, once you throw something in the trash, it is free for anyone who wants it.

Is it creepy, autistic, and perhaps a bit obsessive? Yeah. But it doesn't hurt anyone in any way.

 

[The Other Chandler]

Isn't digging through someone's trash bins still trespassing, though? Unless the bins were on the curb or something.