Transformers general thread - Toy Robot men based on giant robots based on previously mentioned toys about said robots

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didn't Rhino have a fuckton of problems on their stuff?
Yeah. Their release was garbage. Although there are a few times when Shout got it wrong. There was a timing error in War Dawn that Rhino fixed, yet Shout used the original slowed-down version. And I read that Cosmos' one line in Five Faces of Darkness is absent in the Shout version, but present in the Rhino one.
 
didn't Rhino have a fuckton of problems on their stuff?
This is bonus features I was talking about actually. The movie itself was actually fine quality wise, "widescreen" aside. Rhino's TF series releases are, frankly, beyond cursed....and so is the 2005 "Reconstructed" print that was UK exclusive and also was their first time getting the US print (the UK print had some notable changes). The 2006 20th anniversary version was what I was specifically mentioning.
 
Today gonna be rough.
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Do people hate japformers shit JUST because of fucking kiss players? I personally like the headmasters and the other g1+ cartoons because its more content and they generally get to do more shit hasbro wouldnt, like kill MORE beloved characters (including optimus for the second time.)

Also ive been wanting to get Bingo toys Jazz, it looks pretty fantastic in both modes and its decently priced.
Even the Japs hated Kiss Players (and it was really because they thought Kiss Players would give them a bad rep for being sexual degenerates). Now as for regular people not liking Japanese Transformers, I've heard different things, but the common one I've heard is that the Japanese don't do Transformers the way Hasbro does it (and I've heard several specific reasons for that).
Thoughts on skybound #24?
Read it, and its an amazing end for DWJ's run. I think Kirkman has his work cut out for him.
 
Even the Japs hated Kiss Players (and it was really because they thought Kiss Players would give them a bad rep for being sexual degenerates). Now as for regular people not liking Japanese Transformers, I've heard different things, but the common one I've heard is that the Japanese don't do Transformers the way Hasbro does it (and I've heard several specific reasons for that).
The biggest problem with kiss players aside from the skeevy fucking box art was the fact it was trying to cash in on so many trends of the time (which is why that box art is even a thing at all) when the figures and basic plot premise would have worked better. (G1 unicron movie events causing a chain reaction offscreen where now a bunch of earth vehicles are becoming hordes of extremely destructive malformed zombie clone megatrons + a 3 letter agency working to contain them by artificially creating mass produced transformers called autoroopers made from retrofitted cybertronian shit they found) They were trying to do a "more mature transformers story" but then also trying to tap into the moeshit trends of the time and like a billion other things right before bayformers tried a similar thing of "more mature transformers" like a year or 2 later but without the moeshit slapped on or the direct continuity ties to the G1 cartoon.

It's interesting how when I look up specific figures I get news posts from the time they came out with comments sections basically being sane where they find certain elements skeevy or shitty but say it in a way that's actually genuine and not parroting the "experts" on loop. Some even made fucking jokes about the more fucked up elements. surprised they haven't been DFE'd to try and make the reputation fo the places those are hosted on that are still active more squeaky clean given the attitudes of jannies across the board on the Internet these days.

Speaking of g1 the recent weird shit where people start complaining about either shit not being g1 enough or hating g1 is weird to me. So much transformers media, including the shit called g2 that's why g1 is now called g1, is part of g1. G2? Toys were mostly reissues of g1, plot was direct continuation of g1 in comics, reruns of g1 as the "show" Japanese seasons of g1 and beast wars? g1. Unicron trilogy? first attempt of a reboot, heavily based on g1 with rights issues for some of the names leading to really funny name fuckery. It's like they're trying to apply pokemon "geewunner" talk logic to transformers but also are ignoring the fact the pokemon geewunners are more about "the number going up too much" and "we don't like every fucking game being a world ending plot can we at least have just the mafia again" type of complaints., not literally viewing each extension as a completely separate reboot.


EDIT: Oh my fucking god I just found out something fucking hilarious. I already knew about the basic shit of how the zombie megatrons in kiss players were actually the decepticharge alternators figure, but what I didn't know was that they later repainted decepticharge as arcee later on in the binaltech figures.
It looks like a pink and white megatron in samurai armor I'm fucking losing it
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EDITX2 oh my god was this the reason those hacks made arcee "galvatron's twin brother"? HHHHHHH.

I kinda want this thing because it still looks cool (not as an arcee though) but all the listings are scalpers that want like 100 or upwards for it and most are slightly yellowed.
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This is the autobot megatron we needed, the autobot megatron we deserved. Pink bastard samurai. Our honor was robbed from us.
 
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Speaking of g1 the recent weird shit where people start complaining about either shit not being g1 enough or hating g1 is weird to me. So much transformers media, including the shit called g2 that's why g1 is now called g1, is part of g1. G2? Toys were mostly reissues of g1, plot was direct continuation of g1 in comics, reruns of g1 as the "show" Japanese seasons of g1 and beast wars? g1. Unicron trilogy? first attempt of a reboot, heavily based on g1 with rights issues for some of the names leading to really funny name fuckery. It's like they're trying to apply pokemon "geewunner" talk logic to transformers but also are ignoring the fact the pokemon geewunners are more about "the number going up too much" and "we don't like every fucking game being a world ending plot can we at least have just the mafia again" type of complaints., not literally viewing each extension as a completely separate reboot.
I've seen more people complaining about supposed "geewunners" then people who actually religiously worship G1 as the best thing ever and anything after it sucks. Hasbro not making anything new and constantly recycling old designs? Obviously it's G1's fault. Transformers is a dying franchise? (not stating this as a fact or lie, just that this statement is more prevalent in recent years). it's gotta be G1's fault surely and not Hasbro constantly smashing their kneecaps with a sledgehammer and pissing away millions of dollars at failed projects. The problem was never G1, The Skybound comics directly disprove this theory and that you can still create unique stories centered around the G1 universe. Hasbro is simply lazy and unwilling to even do something slightly new and creative, so they prioritize bland low effort media. But in Hasbro's defense, G1 is still one of the most profitable parts of Transformers, the only thing they need to do is not have a repeat of IDW and sell certain media relating to it and the sales will be high. In the meantime they could brainstorm on something more ambitious while having a positive revenue stream. But that would require Hasbro to be smart for once, which, let's be real...

Besides that, has anyone heard that Hasbro will apparently be relocating from Rhode Island to Boston?
 
The problem was never G1, The Skybound comics directly disprove this theory and that you can still create unique stories centered around the G1 universe.
The thing is skybound technically isn't really g1, just using the g1 designs. It's like how IDW isn't g1 but the wiki people mark it as g1 because of the IDW version of the continuation of the marvel comic that IS supposed to be g1.

Still yeah, the designs are the main thing people bitch about being "too geewun" lately which is weird.


Besides that, has anyone heard that Hasbro will apparently be relocating from Rhode Island to Boston?
Surprised it wasn't the california bay area like EVERY FUCKING COMPANY THAT KEEPS MAKING BAD DECISIONS EVER THE LAST DECADE.
 
I've had (unpleasant) interactions with these Anti-G1 folks. We were waiting on what the next Titan would be. Many were hoping Metrotitan or Brave Maximus.

Then it was announced it was going to be Cybetron Metroplex. These people smugly gloated that "gee wunners" weren't getting what they wanted. I told them I was fine with it as long as they put their money where their mouth was and BUY IT.

Well, they didn't buy it. BBTS still has them in stock. Hasbro keeps throwing these whiners bones and they don't seem to bite.
 
Then it was announced it was going to be Cybetron Metroplex. These people smugly gloated that "gee wunners" weren't getting what they wanted.
Cybertron metroplex is literally just g1 metroplex design wise with a different alt mode and slightly different colors. Also they likely still have stock because nobody clearances anything anymore, and if they do they then mark it back up to full price or higher because of the "value". It's how we still have the supposed online exclusive limited gi joe crossovers which were all g1 based still available everywhere.
 
Cybertron metroplex is literally just g1 metroplex design wise with a different alt mode and slightly different colors. Also they likely still have stock because nobody clearances anything anymore, and if they do they then mark it back up to full price or higher because of the "value". It's how we still have the supposed online exclusive limited gi joe crossovers which were all g1 based still available everywhere.
Someone at a comic convention I went to had a bunch of Cybertron Metroplexs that he was trying to sell for $90 each, by the end of the day I went on he had sold none of them.
 
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