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TruffleSpark said:
Twitter attempts to define what a woman is, long post incoming:
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the way these people are defining gender as performance just sounds like autistic masking. feeling uncomfortable, like you're having to "perform a role", and like you aren't experiencing emotions properly or fully is just what socialisation feels like as a sperg/high functioning autist in general. these turbospergs probably just feel better after transition because their tranny discord acts like some sort of looney bin version of the support groups diagnosed autists can go to to be taught social skills and coping mechanisms to deal with their social deficits. you always see them asking stuff like "how to act more female" and whatnot
 
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"Transgender women are biological women because secondary sex characteristics can be changed, and that is what biological sex should be defined by. Saying that your gametes are what determines sex is only an illusion of what biological sex is, but it is underlined by objective prioritization of gametes as what biological sex is; which itself cannot prove. This view is actually a subjective view of biological sex colored by misogyny and gametes are only taken into consideration because women are valued as commodities capable of producing babies. Oh, and TERFs are misogynists."

You know what, you're right. Your biological sex isn't defined by your gametes... it's defined by your chromosomes. Your chromosomes are determined through gametes, but it can still be determined without gametes... which is why infertile women and menopausal are still women by their biological sex.

700+ trannies bookmarked this word salad for their next epic owns btw
 
There's a story that 100 scientists signed a letter claiming that general relativity was wrong, and Einstein responded by saying "if it was actually wrong one scientist would have been enough to prove it."
 
TruffleSpark said:
There's a story that 100 scientists signed a letter claiming that general relativity was wrong, and Einstein responded by saying "if it was actually wrong one scientist would have been enough to prove it."
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The generation of false consensus has regularly been used to enforce "scientific" dogma in the face of all evidence to the contrary. The saddest part is that it tends to work, often for a very long time, which it's why nobody should be surprised when they try it again.
 
teriyakiburns said:
The generation of false consensus has regularly been used to enforce "scientific" dogma in the face of all evidence to the contrary. The saddest part is that it tends to work, often for a very long time, which it's why nobody should be surprised when they try it again.
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Mentioned before that science nowadays feels more like an "appeal to majority" than actually about finding the truth. Anyone who goes against what the majority believe is automatically labeled a "heretic". I mentioned this in the "Things Troons Have Ruined" thread but biologists like Richard Dawkins and others who've pointed out how much pseudo science there is to transgenderism are labeled heretics for going against it. Also, TRAs are worse than young earth creationists because at least they didn't damage science's reputation much. Transgenderism has imo destroyed people's trust in scientists. I have seen people going "How can we trust scientists if they think gender souls exist and men can become women by simply saying they are?" Even if there becomes a time where trans ideology loses its grip on science, it has damaged its rep because people will be wondering what other things were promoted by scientists that turned out to be wrong? (Though we have examples from history where the majority of scientists were wrong, yet people seriously gaslight others by saying "The majority of scientists never believed that. That was a myth" ) Big example was when smoking was said to have great health benefits. There's literal ads about in the 1930s to 1940s and being promoted by pharmacists. Yet people will tell you that no one really believed it.
 
Double posting this from "Anti-Tranny Pushback in the Wild" thread. Notice how the tranny is doing the typical word games where sex and gender are now the same thing. No one was asking if animals can change their sex. People want examples of animals having a gender identity that's different from their sex. Example, a male monkey that thinks he's a female monkey. As I mentioned before in this thread, what exactly would be the evolutionary reason for why biological sex matters to every non human animals but humans (at least to TRAs) are the only ones where a person's "inner gender identity" should matter more?

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Jacques1194 said:
Double posting this from "Anti-Tranny Pushback in the Wild" thread. Notice how the tranny is doing the typical word games where sex and gender are now the same thing. No one was asking if animals can change their sex. People want examples of animals having a gender identity that's different from their sex. Example, a male monkey that thinks he's a female monkey. As I mentioned before in this thread, what exactly would be the evolutionary reason for why biological sex matters to every non human animals but humans (at least to TRAs) are the only ones where a person's "inner gender identity" should matter more?

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"If animals had human level intelligence they might do [sex change surgery]".
OK, then do animals commit suicide because their sex and "gender identity" don't match?
 
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What are your all’s thoughts on this?
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Gender isn't real and genetic defects are incredibly rare. The author brings up a pretty valid point: that most people don't have Marilyn's measurements, but then follows up with nonsense like 'the only difference between men and women is the hormones they are bathed in', which is blatant mistruth.

No matter how much estrogen you give a man, it will never change his Y chromosome into another X. Looking at DSDs-these are sexed too. A woman won't have Klinefelter's and a man won't have salt wash CAH. In the cases of something like CAIS, which results in a man who externally looks like a woman, he still doesn't have a uterus and he still has XY chromosomes. These disorders are vanishingly rare and can be deadly, which the author doesn't mention, because kweers like to pretend than intersex people are their anime futanari fantasies.
 
MeatSuki said:
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Our bodies are biological machines, and sometimes they read the blueprints wrong, or have an extra page of superfluous instructions. Sometimes this mechanical defect is obvious, sometimes it isn't. Sometimes it's a defect with genitals, sometimes it's a defect with limb growth.

The mistake comes in assuming that such defects should direct the identity of the sufferer. I have congenital back issues, but that's not a part of my identity, just a part of my machinery. A truly intersex person feels the way they feel because of their defects, but these are still mechanical defects that they have to choose to incorporate into their identity or ignore.

It all comes down to choosing their own identity, which is fine - we all choose who we are to a certain degree. What's wrong is to say that choice of identity is intrinsic in some way, rather than developed. "I've always felt like a girl so now I'm just acting like a girl" is confusing this - how you feel gives you a choice about how you act. If you are grumpy one day, you can choose to act with extra patience or you can choose to blow up on the first viable target to release pressure. Gender specials are the worst with this, stating how they feel that day changes who they are that day.

The primary flaw is believing how you feel dictates who you are. "Gendered minds" don't exist anymore than sexless bodies do.
 
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