📚 Megathread Trannies posting their L's Online - Heckin valid people posting their funny misfortunes on the internet

[BoobWhiskers]

no shit

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The annoying thing is, if anyone commented on them 'passing' they'd take it as a huge insult (which in a way, it kind of is), because its just a reminder that they're obviously trans and the best they can manage is 'well, you're making an effort'.

Hey, you were a fugly fridge-shaped 6'4" dude, I can really see how much work you've put into trying (and failing) to disguise that!

I think most people who are trying to be supportive mostly just try not to acknowledge the elephant in the room. Don't mention that the dude thinks a leather Hot Topic miniskirt and bright dyed hair is appropriate for ANY middle aged person, male or female. Don't mention that the attempt at a girly falsetto sounds like a Monty Python skit. Don't mention that normal women understand that there's daytime vs nighttime makeup, and that clown makeup doesnt fall under either.

Nobody wants to bring up the trans shit unless they have to because they don't want to deal with an ogre tantrum in person and then a crytyping Reddit thread later.

 

[Sean Andalou]

I think most people who are trying to be supportive mostly just try not to acknowledge
the elephant in the room.

Which is to say, they never really pass.

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What never works stopped working.
Or maybe he just finally noticed.

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I don't know if this is just an age thing or if something is wrong with me but for the past 6 months it has felt like all of the grains I've gotten from my transition have been slipping away. I'm getting misgendered almost daily, and I hardly recognize myself in old pictures. 5 year's into my medical transition I feel like I hit my stride. I had gotten FFS and looking back I feel like I was at my most feminine. Now I feel like my face has never looked more masculine. I did loose weight this year, about 20 pounds, and while I'm very proud of this I feel like it only made matters worse for my face. I'm not yet at my goal weight but now I'm afraid to go any lower.

All in all I just feel terrible and scared for my future. I'm turning 30 this year and feel like any chance I had at being a woman, even though I still present full time, has slipped away. While I wouldn't say I'm suicidal I have started thinking about how nice to would be to just give up and not have to worry anymore. I'm actively seaking a theripist but I'm not sure if even that will help.

If anyone else has gone through this before I'd really like to hear how you've dealt with it or made it better. I worry I'm not the type that can just "not think about it" and will spend the rest of my days constantly feeling like a failure.

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All in all I just feel terrible and scared for my future. I'm turning 30 this year and feel like any chance I had at being a woman, even though I still present full time, has slipped away. While I wouldn't say I'm suicidal I have started thinking about how nice to would be to just give up and not have to worry anymore. I'm actively seaking a theripist but I'm not sure if even that will help.

So far one comment + reply from OP.

oh gosh that really sucks. have you gotten your testosterone and dht levels checked?

i started older than you and hrt's worked well for me so don't worry - you can get back on track.

I did actually get my levels checked, praying I had low e and could blame how I was feeling on that, but it was in normal female range :/ I've also had srs so I'm not too worried about my t​

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

Another tranny cannot handle actual women are 100x more attractive than he will ever be. I guess he didn't understand his tranny pals lied to him that actual men would love him.

More like gay dude can't comprehend the concept of being a straight man. He finds the female body gross because he's a fag, and he mistakenly thinks the men who sleep with him aren't also fags.

 

[Waffle Iron]

I'm turning 30 this year

In another stinkditch thread someone showed a compilation of prepuberescent transitioners years later. Even if they look less masculine in their 20s, by their 30s they have obviously male heads. And men in general, not just HRTed men, seem to keep developing their head for a while past their puberty. With all the Mengele tier experimentation on children and autists, we can at least exclude testosterone as the origin of that development.

 

[The bird with tourettes]

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I've heard of family dinners were family members have been called out for molesting someone while they were young. Yet he considers all this traumatic.

Also I've noticed this about a ton of these trannies. Alot of them visit family they absolutely hate. Why?? You're a fucking adult you don't have to see people you don't want to see. If I had a family member who I knew I wouldn't get along with I wouldn't go to that dinner. I understand some cases you sometimes just need to go out of some obligation and grin and deal with it. But that never seems the case in these stories. It never sounds like some business dinner or formal things or what have you. Is it for free food? Playing the victim 24/7 sounds so fucking draining but these freaks can do it.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

no shit

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Troons when they get sir'd and clocked: I was misgendered by a cis bigot today! Urgh I want to bash their teeth in!
Troons when they pass (or at least people pretend that they do): WTF why is nobody congratulating me on my transition? Those cis bigots just don't understand how much effort goes into trooning out!

It's almost like they don't want to just live their lives like normal people, they want attention and to be treated as special.

 

[W@rui]

no shit

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>Roll out the red carpet for transitioning
The entitlement is wild.

 

[Scientifically Inaccurate]

no shit

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He paid other people to cut him up, paid other people to laser off his hair, and injected medicine (one step up from "taking some pills"). It's not impressive to have other people do work for you.

The most he can say is that he had to work for the voice training. Congratulations; you took the time and effort that could've been spent on something actually worthwhile and spent it on something pointless.

 

[Croctopus]

Troons when they pass (or at least people pretend that they do): WTF why is nobody congratulating me on my transition? Those cis bigots just don't understand how much effort goes into trooning out!

It's almost like they don't want to just live their lives like normal people, they want attention and to be treated as special.

To be fair they made Bruce Jenner woman of the year, Lia Thomas and Imane Khelif won a bunch of contests, troons got like another pride month and days of remembrance and visibility, Dylan mulvaney got like a Broadway special and meeting at the White House - there are tons of reasons these people feel entitled to a red carpet and I can’t help but imagine that the enormous public congratulations for trannies motivated more than a small fraction of their community.

Despite the vast majority of gay celebrities coming out leading to declining popularity, gay people don’t seem to notice how different this is. In my own gay community it’s polarized now. The gay people still drinking the troon kool aid are overbearingly supportive and emphasizing pronouns and hostile to perceived transphobia. They see it as defending their own gay rights or something so there are still “LGBT” community events where troons are getting put on a pedestal still. Thankfully this is decreasing steadily. The success of the gay movement hinged entirely on heteronormative assimilation (marriage, adoption, hospital visits, etc). Rosie o Donnell and Ricky Martin were less popular after coming out.

 

[Lurkey Turkey]

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"Wow, that new cult is really working out for you, I'm so proud."

 

[Dolly Brooks]

I've heard of family dinners were family members have been called out for molesting someone while they were young. Yet he considers all this traumatic.

Also I've noticed this about a ton of these trannies. Alot of them visit family they absolutely hate. Why?? You're a fucking adult you don't have to see people you don't want to see. If I had a family member who I knew I wouldn't get along with I wouldn't go to that dinner. I understand some cases you sometimes just need to go out of some obligation and grin and deal with it. But that never seems the case in these stories. It never sounds like some business dinner or formal things or what have you. Is it for free food? Playing the victim 24/7 sounds so fucking draining but these freaks can do it.

I interpreted this part “Cutting off her family would cause long term problems and solve few current ones” as the family probably supports them financially and maybe takes the wife to doctor appointments and stuff if she’s as disabled as he says she is.

I went to go look, and yep!


He also says he’s a factory worker and has been hospitalized for panic disorder before (which is exacerbated by troon meds because of course it is.)

 

[Mad_Dog]

I'm turning 30 this year and feel like any chance I had at being a woman, even though I still present full time, has slipped away.

Lmao what did the aging tranny expect? He will never be a cute anime girl. It's all downhill from here, sir.

To be fair they made Bruce Jenner woman of the year, Lia Thomas and Imane Khelif won a bunch of contests, troons got like another pride month and days of remembrance and visibility, Dylan mulvaney got like a Broadway special and meeting at the White House

Bro thought he would join the ranks of the idolized trannies, but once again reality spits in his face. He's so retarded he doesn't understand why it's not happening. Unfortunately for him, reality will continue to bitch slap him until he dies. And that's not the worst part, after his mutilated body succumbs to it's (un)natural end, he gets to meet his maker, and this time it's gonna sting. Good luck, tranny, may God have mercy on your eternal soul.

 

[Niggolash]

6'5 tranny gets a botched breast augmentation hoping to get tits like Kylie Jenner's.

Imagine paying for a boob job just to look like one of the flapjack-tiddied Africans from National Geographic.

 

[Fresh Meat]

Here's some retarded shit I found on "r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2" (archived a day ago... weird)

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Frustration 2 - Post flair: "Gals"
submitted 1 day ago by MaximumSyrup3099

Soulless surprised face	After a 5 month wait I finally get in to see the only LGBTQ+ competent endocrinologist covered by my insurance.
Soulless normal face	I ask about starting estrogen with raloxifene.
Angry? Face? I think?	She shuts me down hard. and tells me "You are not transgender."
"Crying" face	I feel frustrated, diminished, gate-kept, and humiliated. But I don't cry until the drive home.

Waaaaaaah some doctor didn't give me the girl drug!!! I am woman!!! Give me life-altering harmful hormones now! NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!
Jokes aside, this "LGBTQ+ friendly" endocrinologist was actually pretty based in not giving this mentally ill man with corrupted dopamine receptors this estrogen shit.

Here are the completely sane comments:

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BeanBagSize - 1328 points - 1 day ago

The moment any trans individual hears "you are not trans" from a supposed medical professional, stop just taking the beating. Storm the fuck out, call them incompetent shits or whatever insult you want; you're not going back anyway, and the reputational damage absolutely does wonders for ruining some of these idiots. If they're dismissing a trans person for being trans, what else are they ignoring or dismissing? Children in pain, elderly with new out of the ordinary health detriments, women, men with mental health needs, who indeed may next have their very real needs dismissed by a bigot?

Sperging out, insulting, and subsequently ruining someone's life by taking away their job by crying "TRANSPHOBIA!!!" is the best way to look like the good guy in this situation, as every tranny knows. Also this person is comparing the act of not giving a man with serious porn addiction and depression some estrogen to fulfill his sick fetish, with the act of refusing to treat a child in pain. And the elderly. Are you fucking kidding me? I hate this faggot site so much.

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Dawniechi - Dawn | She/Her | HRT B-Day 6/6/25 - 52 points - 1 day ago

So in other words you went to someone who should have their license revoked. Imagine this for literally anything else. "Oh, you're not depressed enough for antidepressants, sorry not sorry."

I am so sorry you and so many of us have to deal with absolute bullshit from people that have no clue what they are doing, or know what they are doing and simply hate us.

Imagine this for literally anything else. "Oh, you're not depressed enough for antidepressants, sorry not sorry."

First off this is an endocrinologist. Not a fucking psychiatrist. Other than that, that won't happen, because doctors get paid extra when they prescribe a patient with the mind-raping drugs that are SSRIs.

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SiteRelEnby - She/They - 59 points - 1 day ago

/r/TransDIY

Soyd_Astail - 16 points - 1 day ago

This fr. Stop torturing yourself with an unfair, irrational and cruel system. Diy is easy, safe and works very well.

Yep! DIY is easy, safe, and works very, very well. It's totally safe. Trust me. I am your friend. This is not a cult. I am your friend. Trust us.

Contempt.

 

[█████████]

Also the OP is a military veteran. Why is this such a common occurrence?

PTSD causing them to latch onto maladaptive unhealthy coping via porn? Or brain damage? Those are my guesses. Some of them already are perverted degenerates pre-military and go into the military deliberately to collect benefits for their trooning out, especially back when more insurance companies covered the cost of trooning. I'm unsure if Tricare military health insurance still covers trooning though.

 

[Backinpogform]

PTSD causing them to latch onto maladaptive unhealthy coping via porn? Or brain damage? Those are my guesses. Some of them already are perverted degenerates pre-military and go into the military deliberately to collect benefits for their trooning out, especially back when more insurance companies covered the cost of trooning. I'm unsure if Tricare military health insurance still covers trooning though.

Michael Bailey talks about how common vet troons are in his book. Back in the day the shame of the fetish had crossdressers pursuing stereotypically masculine careers to balance it out.

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

1701 Nice.

Sorry the Star Trek nerd in me had to comment on it.

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

1701 Nice.

Sorry the Star Trek nerd in me had to comment on it.

This thread is full of men going where no men have gone before, the ladies room, so it is tehnically on topic.

 

[Magic Pickle]

Hope American Kiwis are enjoying their Independence Day weekend - for now, enjoy a heavy duty haul involving many accounts from those over on r/mypartneristrans.

A proto-pooner worries that the loser tranny she shacked up with won't like her anymore if she dares to go against as Nature made her just as he did the same. It's a very "bite each other's dicks off" moment when I read posts like these, in all honesty.
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My trans partner’s worst fear is that I’m trans.. and I’m not sure if I am or not.​

Not really a rant, more of a “processing my thoughts by making a post about it,” but I’m not sure I want or need advice at this point in time, so this flair will do.
I have been with my partner for 10 years this year, with her coming out as a trans woman about 4.5 years ago. Our relationship is honestly very happy and healthy and stable. We help each other grow, and any problems we’ve had we have been able to have discussions about and resolve things with relatively few to no hurt feelings.
About me: I’m a recovering people pleaser. I worry a bit too much about hurting the people around me on accident (or on purpose). This means I’ve had times in my life where I stuffed myself deep in the closet or tried to change who I was to please people around me. Over the years, I’ve been slowly peeling away these layers to discover who is actually me inside, vs what is the mask I wear for others. I’ve learned so much about me, and I’ve really loved who I’ve become! Part of that discovery was a journey that took me first to bisexuality, then asexuality, and now queerness.
And over the years I’ve been slowly experimenting with my gender, and allowing myself to present a lot more the way I’m more comfortable with (which is a bit more masculine, with the occasional feminine moments).
But as I explore more, my partner has expressed worry. She is very sapphic. She is pretty revolted by a lot of physical masculine traits, such as hair and their smell. And she’s scared that the more I explore this side, if it turns out I’m trans, then she won’t be attracted to me anymore and it would mean we have to break up.
She’s just expressing her feelings and fears and wants to be reassured I guess? But I can’t really do that at this point in time. And, knowing me and my past and what time like… am I:- not trans, and just over thinking stuff and focusing on it for the wrong reasons?- or actually trans/nonbinary/something, but I am repressing it and in denial hard core because of my partner? (Not to mention my mom as well who’s kinda transphobic).
And I don’t feel like I can really explore that side of me knowing that the cost is losing my life partner.
She knows she’s being a hypocrite btw. It’s just she feels she also needs to express her feelings and talk about them.. but idk.. I guess I wish she didn’t? And I’m just a confused mess about it.
Also, I don’t really want anyone disparaging her. There’s a lot of context I didn’t include. Like I said, I’m just processings. We are also gonna have a convo about it tomorrow, so wish me luck I guess?

Case in point: this time, the tables turn as a FTM worries that her idyllic relationship with her "queer leaning cis man" partner will wind up with her being tied down to a hulking, dickless Alice instead of a soft, handsome Alan as she wished. The reason for her distress? She describes having an emotional attachment to his penis!
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I’m a trans man. My spouse is beginning their transition, and I’m struggling hard. (Potential TW: sex and genital stuff)​

I’m struggling HARD y’all. So, I (34 FTM) met and married, who I thought was just a queer leaning cis man(also 34). We got married a few years ago. I started my FTM transition 10 years ago. Over the past year or so, my spouse has gotten more and more gender queer/femme leaning. A few months ago, I finally had top surgery. I have no plans on bottom surgery. Now, my spouse who I love so much..wants bottom surgery. I love this person so much. With my entire heart. The thought of being without them crushes me..but also, the thought of them removing a part of themselves that I am so emotionally connected to is so crazy hard for me. It’s not just a body part. And the hardest part is IM TRANS. I GET IT. That would be like them telling me not to get top surgery because they like my chest. It wouldn’t happen. I’m just so full of emotions, and I don’t know what to do.

Though this is an L for OP right now, she will soon see in time that she narrowly avoided becoming a skinsuit: a young lady finds the courage within to break up with a polyamorous tranny who is 22 years her senior who then subsequently goes on to smear her image in public, accusing OP of being a chaser in front of all of their mutuals. Hopefully she's learned an important lesson early on to never trust a troon.
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We broke up​

I (22f) broke up with my girlfriend (44f). Yes, the age gap was bad, and we were also long distance to top it off. There were a couple other factors, she was poly and I figured out I wasn’t. I felt like we were at two separate stages of our lives and I didn’t know how to handle it. But the biggest reason was how she spoke to me. She would snap at me, call me things such as “heinous”, tell me I was a manipulator, just talked to me in general towards the end of our relationship in a way that I couldn’t handle.
When I initiated the breakup, she was very upset. It was her first committed relationship since her transition. She felt like I was the first person to see her as she is. And I do, I think she’s a beautiful woman. But one thing that bothered me, is that she blamed how she spoke to me and treated me on her transness, saying that her being raised as a man under her father causes her to be that way. While I understand, I just don’t think that’s an excuse. It frustrated her, and she told me I don’t understand what being trans is like and how it impacts her on a daily basis. Which is true, I don’t. But I also don’t tolerate anyone in my life speaking to me that way.
Now I’m just venting. After I broke up with her she started posting shit on social media calling me out, saying I love bonded her, and that I am a chaser. It’s just really upsetting to see the 360 and how rude she is being towards me in the ‘public square’ where our mutuals can see. I understand I’m the one that broke up with her, and she has a right to feel how she feels, but the whole situation is just making me sad, frustrated, and sometimes angry. Anyways, I have her blocked pretty much everywhere now, and will no longer be active in this sub.
Y’all rock.

A man so dishonorable, he doesn't deserve the honor of being a father: a woman recounts the miserable rollercoaster her life has undertaken once her retarded husband decided to troon out when she was only 4 months pregnant. Further highlights include that while he agreed not to take hormones until the baby had delivered, he went and turned his back on his word only a month later; refusing to acknowledge himself as the baby's biological father and wanting to take her title of mother instead; and, lastly, choosing to celebrate his version of "Mother's Day" on fucking Star Wars Day of all days.
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Mtf partner doesn't want to be acknowledged as our child's biological father/dad​

I'm feeling a lot of feelings today and just need to put it somewhere and maybe get some feedback. Long story short, my partner (29mtf) and I (30cisF) have been together since 2014 and she came out as trans femme about year and a half ago. When I found out I was 4 months pregnant last year, she told me she would wait until after the baby was born so we wouldn't both be in hormonal unpredictability/rollercoaster at the same time but wasn't able to and started HRT when I was a little over 5 months pregnant.
We now have a nearly 4mo and today is father's day and for some reason, it makes me so so sad that my partner doesn't seem to feel proud at all to be our sons biological father. Doesn't even want it to be acknowledged and feels upset when people say it. I know that part of it is that being acknowledged as the dad too often or at all can cause dysphoria so I'm trying to understand that more but I've seen some trans woman who are proud to be the dad/father but just prefer to be called mom and referred to as mom and I sort of anticipated that to be the case in our family but that's not the case and I guess I just didn't expect to have so many feelings about it. Sorry for the run on sentence.
I am working with a therapist to sort out all of my issues with things but this particular one has really been bothering me and I don't know if I'm just being a total asshole or if other people would/do feel similar things in this type of situation too.
I wasn't prepared to share the mom title (I know that perspective is seen as possessive and I've been working on addressing those parts of my brain) and that has been really hard on me but I've been trying to adjust and accept it so my partner feels celebrated and equal as our son's mother. But it has been more difficult for me than I anticipated and I'm struggling to navigate that.
So if any of you have any thoughts or experience to share, I'd really appreciate it. Please be kind if possible, my hormones are all over the place rn and I'm extra sensitive atm
EDIT:Thank you for the feedback everyone, and an extra thank you to those who tried to speak kindly in their responses and recognized that I wasn't coming from a place of malice. I also really appreciate everyone that shared their personal experience
After rereading my post, I realize I didn't articulate my feelings properly because I agree with and already felt a lot of the things that were mentioned in the responses I've gotten.
She goes by mum and we chose to celebrate her on star wars day since it's one of her favorite days, and I think the plan was to just not celebrate father's day at all, but what was throwing me of was the unexpected feelings I was having about it. My post was mostly just me feeling a lot of things I wasn't anticipating feeling and I decided reaching out to gain more perspective from people who had experienced something similar was a way to maybe help me navigate that. To clarify, I did not and do not expect my partner to want to be called dad or father, and I didn't mention father's day at all to her because of that. I only made the post cause a family member messaged me to tell her happy father's day and the emotions that came with that were complicated and I needed to vent them to somewhere that they wouldn't hurt my partner.
Please remember this sub has the potential to really help well-meaning people to understand or seek support to navigate tough situations with their trans partners, and being judgemental or condescending doesn't help teach people, it just hurts them and adds another obstacle in the way of them truly understanding to the best of their ability.
Thanks again everyone. I'm going to try to reply to some of the individual comments when I can but our little one is beginning teething so my spare time is slim atm.

Now, for a palate cleanser, and I'll even be nice and give you a twofer: message to all TiFs - you do not pass nearly as well as you think you do!
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outed​

I was just informed today by my girlfriend that this girl at work somehow found out I was trans and has been going around the store telling everyone and deadnaming me. I barely even know this girl, I met her when I started the job and have barely ever spoken to her so I didn’t do anything to provoke her in any way. I feel stuck. I want to quit right now on the spot but I’ve only been at this job for a month and I’m supposed i be going through a promotion soon I just don’t feel safe there anymore and I’m more upset bc this girl is literally part of the community so why’d she feel the need at allll. I texted my boss that I wasn’t coming in today because I refuse to work with this person and I’m going to HR when I can find out how to contact them. This was supposed to be my fresh start where nobody knew who I was after leaving my job of 5 years. I don’t know what to do besides go to sleep to not think about it

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Got clocked because of my height & voice.​

Feeling like shit. I've never been clocked in person before. I was really happy with my voice even, but I've always been so fucking depressed about my height (5'1"). I feel so overly aware of my incorrect body. I can't help but look at myself and wince at the reflection. I don't want to even hear my own voice. I was getting better. My dysphoria is always present but this just made it so much worse.
It was another trans person too. Why would they do this to me? Don't they feel miserable being reminded of it like I do?? I feel fucking terrible.

And to finish us off strong: a tranny despises having anal sex but feels he has no recourse but to have it anyway. Normal people simply don't have sex they don't care to have (or find shameful to have), so there surely must be a reason for OP's insistence upon performing it... what could it be?
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I hate anal sex but I don't have a choice​

I hate anal sex. I hate the idea of it. I would have never done it if I was a cis woman and I will never do it again after bottom surgery. No matter what a man would ask or do I will never accept anal sex after bottom surgery. The only reason why I do it currently is because I have only that hole and I want to get penerated. It feels good but I hate that I have to do it. I will never do it again after bottom surgery no matter what. I feel like I was forced to do it because I was born as trans. I will most likely hate myself forever for doing it in my past.
My friend (who is also a trans woman) said that many cis women do it and like it. Except I would have never done it if I was a cis woman and I still hate the idea of it. My friend likes it and still does it after bottom surgery. I just don't like it. I feel like my body doesn't really allow me to express my sexuality in any way properly currently and I'm trapped.
In my mind anal sex is one of the least sexiest things. It is so disgusting idea (even if done cleanly). I just have to look away and think I'm doing something else (and have a vagina) to enjoy it. I try to forget what I'm actually doing when I'm doing it.
This isn't hate against people who like it. I just hate it myself but I feel like I don't have other options currently.

Spoiler: You never hate trannies enough!

[–]Tight-Sorbet7750
It feels dirty and discusting. Also a big part of why I don't enjoy it as an idea is because my biggest turn on is an impregnantion kink. I don't really enjoy sex where I can't imagine myself getting pregnant. In sexual scenarios I always imagine myself getting pregnant from it and it is such a huge turn on for me. Without it sex feels nothing. That is why even while doing anal I have to try to imagine myself doing vaginal sex where the man is trying to get me pregnant. I have had this impregnantion kink since I started having sexual thoughts first time as a teen. It is still an essential part of my sexual pleasure as an adult.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Lmao what did the aging tranny expect? He will never be a cute anime girl. It's all downhill from here, sir.

Many troons seem to only want to be fuckable women. This is in their narrow definition of fuckable types, while some do call themselves andust after MILFs, most want to be flawlessly airbrushed 20somethings forever. Part of it is always wanting to be treated as a hot woman who men will wait on hands and knees for (thus not doing anything themselves, lazy fucks), part of it is insecurities with their own age and self worth, part of it is sheer vanity.

PTSD causing them to latch onto maladaptive unhealthy coping via porn? Or brain damage? Those are my guesses. Some of them already are perverted degenerates pre-military and go into the military deliberately to collect benefits for their trooning out, especially back when more insurance companies covered the cost of trooning. I'm unsure if Tricare military health insurance still covers trooning though.

Someone on the farms once explained it as some men who enter the army are looking for any purpose, anything to give them structure, anything to give them value. They're just the perfect type for joining a cult because they bounce between groups to improve themselves.