Trading with the Enemy - Hersh claims Zelensky is using American money to buy fuel from...Russia

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The Ukraine government, headed by Volodymyr Zelensky, has been using American taxpayers’ funds to pay dearly for the vitally needed diesel fuel that is keeping the Ukrainian army on the move in its war with Russia. It is unknown how much the Zalensky government is paying per gallon for the fuel, but the Pentagon was paying as much as $400 per gallon to transport gasoline from a port in Pakistan, via truck or parachute, into Afghanistan during the decades-long American war there.

What also is unknown is that Zalensky has been buying the fuel from Russia, the country with which it, and Washington, are at war, and the Ukrainian president and many in his entourage have been skimming untold millions from the American dollars earmarked for diesel fuel payments. One estimate by analysts from the Central Intelligence Agency put the embezzled funds at $400 million last year, at least; another expert compared the level of corruption in Kiev as approaching that of the Afghan war, “although there will be no professional audit reports emerging from the Ukraine.”

“Zelensky’s been buying discount diesel from the Russians,” one knowledgeable American intelligence official told me. “And who’s paying for the gas and oil? We are. Putin and his oligarchs are making millions” on it.

Many government ministries in Kiev have been literally “competing,” I was told, to set up front companies for export contracts for weapons and ammunition with private arms dealers around the world, all of which provide kickbacks. Many of those companies are in Poland and Czechia, but others are thought to exist in the Persian Gulf and Israel. “I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that there are others in places like the Cayman Islands and Panama, and there are lots of Americans involved,” an American expert on international trade told me.

The issue of corruption was directly raised with Zelensky in a meeting last January in Kiev with CIA Director William Burns. His message to the Ukrainian president, I was told by an intelligence official with direct knowledge of the meeting, was out of a 1950s mob movie. The senior generals and government officials in Kiev were angry at what they saw as Zelensky’s greed, so Burns told the Ukrainian president, because “he was taking a larger share of the skim money than was going to the generals.”

Burns also presented Zelensky with a list of thirty-five generals and senior officials whose corruption was known to the CIA and others in the American government. Zelensky responded to the American pressure ten days later by publicly dismissing ten of the most ostentatious officials on the list and doing little else. “The ten he got rid of were brazenly bragging about the money they had—driving around Kiev in their new Mercedes,” the intelligence official told me.
The rest is behind a paywall but also goes on to discuss 20,000 US troops which have been deployed to and are stationed in Poland and Romania
 
As Paul Joseph Watson would said: "Imagine my shock".
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What also is unknown is that Zalensky has been buying the fuel from Russia, the country with which it, and Washington, are at war, and the Ukrainian president and many in his entourage have been skimming untold millions from the American dollars earmarked for diesel fuel payments.
How is buying supplies necessary for war skimming money given to wage such war? If anything it's a massive issue for the Russians since no matter how much they pocket from the sale, the cost of prolonging the war is several times greater. Nevermind that in general a lot of countries still have to barter with Russia because globalism spearheaded by the USA made it so the sources to buy shit are extremely limited.

If the article was about Ukraine wasting money buying shit that is not connected to the war then it would have a point. But if the funds are limited then, at least for something so vital as fuel, it's better to even buy it from the enemy as a cheaper price.
 
How is buying supplies necessary for war skimming money given to wage such war? If anything it's a massive issue for the Russians since no matter how much they pocket from the sale, the cost of prolonging the war is several times greater. Nevermind that in general a lot of countries still have to barter with Russia because globalism spearheaded by the USA made it so the sources to buy shit are extremely limited.

If the article was about Ukraine wasting money buying shit that is not connected to the war then it would have a point. But if the funds are limited then, at least for something so vital as fuel, it's better to even buy it from the enemy as a cheaper price.
I am fairly sure he means that ukrops are stealing the money rather than buying the diesel
 
How is buying supplies necessary for war skimming money given to wage such war? If anything it's a massive issue for the Russians since no matter how much they pocket from the sale, the cost of prolonging the war is several times greater. Nevermind that in general a lot of countries still have to barter with Russia because globalism spearheaded by the USA made it so the sources to buy shit are extremely limited.

If the article was about Ukraine wasting money buying shit that is not connected to the war then it would have a point. But if the funds are limited then, at least for something so vital as fuel, it's better to even buy it from the enemy as a cheaper price.
It's certainly interesting. Russia is getting money, but losing refined fuel. It's a question of who Russia can spend that coin with, can they afford to give up the fuel that will be used against them,and where is Ukraine getting the money and can they deploy that fuel effectively. Quite a puzzle
 
It's a question of who Russia can spend that coin with
They managed to avoid mass mobilization so far by offering a fat paycheck to whoever volunteers to walk into the blender. A grunt on the front lines is paid 150k rubles a month, which is good money with median wage in some regions being as low as 25k. Ten times that for injury, twenty times that for death paid to close family.
where is Ukraine getting the money
Are you even serious? Biden alone shoved more than 75 billion dollars down that money pit and the Washington gravy train has no brakes.
 
How is buying supplies necessary for war skimming money given to wage such war? If anything it's a massive issue for the Russians since no matter how much they pocket from the sale, the cost of prolonging the war is several times greater. Nevermind that in general a lot of countries still have to barter with Russia because globalism spearheaded by the USA made it so the sources to buy shit are extremely limited.

If the article was about Ukraine wasting money buying shit that is not connected to the war then it would have a point. But if the funds are limited then, at least for something so vital as fuel, it's better to even buy it from the enemy as a cheaper price.
Try reading the article again, this time pay attention to the $400 million lost to corruption, and the complaints of theft from Z and his band of merry theives.
 
Russia is getting money, but losing refined fuel. It's a question of who Russia can spend that coin with, can they afford to give up the fuel that will be used against them,and where is Ukraine getting the money and can they deploy that fuel effectively. Quite a puzzle
Russia has no shortage of fuel. they even had to shut down some refienries because they can no longer sell to europe.
 
They managed to avoid mass mobilization so far by offering a fat paycheck to whoever volunteers to walk into the blender. A grunt on the front lines is paid 150k a month, which is good money with median wage in some regions being as low as 25k. Ten times that for injury, twenty times that for death paid to close family.

Are you even serious? Biden alone shoved more than 75 billion dollars down that money pit and the Washington gravy train has no brakes.
The money question was more rhetorical but that means they're paying with US dollars. Great... also 150k to fight lol wut? And it's monthly. That's a good paycheck ngl.

Still the fuel itself is the issue. Can Ukraine effectively distribute it and can Russia afford to lose it- takes time to refine it.
EDIT: apparently they're fine on Russias end
 
How is buying supplies necessary for war skimming money given to wage such war? If anything it's a massive issue for the Russians since no matter how much they pocket from the sale, the cost of prolonging the war is several times greater. Nevermind that in general a lot of countries still have to barter with Russia because globalism spearheaded by the USA made it so the sources to buy shit are extremely limited.

If the article was about Ukraine wasting money buying shit that is not connected to the war then it would have a point. But if the funds are limited then, at least for something so vital as fuel, it's better to even buy it from the enemy as a cheaper price.
They’re getting given $400 to buy a gallon of diesel from Pakistan. They spend $200 on Russian diesel and pocket the $200 in their personal bank account. They’re also selling US-provided weapons internationally and pocketing the money. You have the reading comprehension of a nine year old you fucking retard.
 
They’re getting given $400 to buy a gallon of diesel from Pakistan. They spend $200 on Russian diesel and pocket the $200 in their personal bank account. They’re also selling US-provided weapons internationally and pocketing the money. You have the reading comprehension of a nine year old you fucking retard.
but the Pentagon was paying as much as $400 per gallon to transport gasoline from a port in Pakistan, via truck or parachute, into Afghanistan during the decades-long American war there.
Afghanistan is not another word for Ukraine. But I'll use the fact that the phrasing is completely fucked in the article as one good reason why it should be taken with a grain of salt. At least some evidence is necessary rather than "My trustworthy fed friend".
 
wait, are you saying the Ukraine war is some kind of racket? like a false flag to accomplish some underhanded political goal? are you saying geopolitical actors don't behave in accordance with their rhetoric? are you telling me national leaders might be dishonest? that the American and Ukrainian and Russian governments might be lying about the nature of the war? are you telling me that this might all be some kind of quid pro quo to pad the pockets of the military-industrial complex as well as the national leaders that enable it? are you seriously saying to me that-

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Afghanistan is not another word for Ukraine. But I'll use the fact that the phrasing is completely fucked in the article as one good reason why it should be taken with a grain of salt. At least some evidence is necessary rather than "My trustworthy fed friend".
Oh, you really have the reading comprehension of a 9 year old. They’re also not invoicing by the gallon. Nobody knows the real numbers. The allegation is that they are surreptitiously buying from a cheaper vendor (i.e. Russia), against the embargo put in place to support them, and pocketing the savings rather than using them for the war efforts.

The idea that Hersh is a federal agent and therefore Ukraine isn’t corrupt is also retarded.
 
Oh, you really have the reading comprehension of a 9 year old. They’re also not invoicing by the gallon. Nobody knows the real numbers. The allegation is that they are surreptitiously buying from a cheaper vendor (i.e. Russia), against the embargo put in place to support them, and pocketing the savings rather than using them for the war efforts.

The idea that Hersh is a federal agent and therefore Ukraine isn’t corrupt is also retarded.
You're conflating two allegations - One that Ukraine buys fuel from Russia, and one that they're pocketing the difference. Only the former can be substantiated. In general fuel is the sort of thing that you can never have too much of.

I don't get the idea of calling Ukraine a scam. It might very well be true but there will be no evidence until the conflict ends, and it's not as effective as the moral/politics behind the war.
 
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