On 21 August, after deriding the people at Jubilee as rank parasites using stunts to elevate themselves into being platformed more, Tim decides to host Mason, a Twitch debater using the handle, One Hand Politics. This was the bloke that made the beanie boy quit the chair for a bit.
Ian, & Phil, were the co-hosts.
But, Tim & Mangled Mitt were the stars of the show, with the two debating each other, with the Phil stepping up, on occasion.
Clip Collection:
-Tim argues two opposing points, within three minutes of each other. At first, the beanie boy argues that people are not going to politically side with a woman, regardless of her positions, due to implicit sexism. Mason replies that it is more so the issues, citing Kamala Harris' policies. On a dime, Tim brings up a mock debate repeating what was said in 2016, between Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump,
where the sexes were reversed, which saw people side with the woman over the man. As if he did not argue the opposite just a moment before:
-Mangled Mitt challenges Tim on his alleged support for the Iran conflict, & justifying it as a way to secure American dominance of petroleum. The beanie boy denies this, & responds with an extensive argument as to why attacking the Iranians was a good thing, with long-term benefits, even if it entails short-term pain:
Ian steps in to say it was Israel that started the war, but the beanie boy declares this as mere surface-level analysis. As it goes on, Tim shifts to admitting there is greater pain on the Americans than he initially stated. He goes from a metaphor saying America's tank is half gone versus Communist China's being three-quarters depleted; to one where it is 70% vs 80%, respectively. As to supporting the war, Tim is hoping for success, because it is the United States fighting, & he is not rooting against his country:
-Tim gaslights Ian, claiming Our Graphene Guy said "Blitz", & not "Blitzkrieg", even though the latter was clearly spoken:
-The beanie boy says the only reason Alex Jones has begun targetting him is due to being on Jubilee's
Surrounded, & became trending. Ian returns to defend the conspiracy kook as being upset Tim may not be calling out the issues around the Gaza War, etc. As the beanie boy tries to jump in & insult Alex, Our Graphene Guy asks Mason if it is a responsibility, when hosting a political show, to call attention to atrocities. Tim begins to respond, but Mason jokes that Tim could "make one more Claude game" to help change things for the better. But getting back to the topic, Mangled Mitt explains that if you want to "change the narrative" you should be overt about what you believe. But Tim's response is to say that if you talk more about Israel, you lose focus on other topics, citing "China" & "South Sudan" as equally important. The beanie boy claims that it is people, primarily from Muslim nations, motivating all the focus on the Jewish State:
Mason asks why Tim frames this as adversarial conspiring against him, which Tim denies. That is in contrast to the rest of this week, where the beanie boy alleged there are PACs working behind the scenes making Alex & others go after him. Which he implies within a few sentences, as if there is no contradiction. Some dinging of Tucker Carlson ensues, but Phil makes a good point that some people become upset when you are not laser focused on their number one issue, at all times:
Tim continues to falsely claim that Ukraine received more support "in two years" than Israel did "in fifty",
presumably because he did not adjust for inflation; or that
Congress was uniquely sycophantic towards the Eastern European nation. The argument now being made by the beanie boy is that he opposes the Iran war, thought we were lied into it, & need to minimise damage by "getting out cleanly". Mason challenges this, stating Iran wins unless there is dramatic escalation, but the manlet musician says "minimise the damage" does not mean the damage suffered shall be small. Mangled Mitt says the current situation pleases no one in the U.S., but Tim takes offense to Mason when he uses "admitted" to describe the beanie boy's statements about the war being a failure:
-After spending so much time with Tim talking about himself as a moderate, Ian, of all people, decides to ask the guest a question. He inquires what Mason got from the Jubilee exchanges, which Mangled Mitt directs to Tim, asking what type of moderate he is, the middle of the road kind, or
the Trump getting a 49-state landslide kind. Tim says he never made such a statement. Which is a lie. The beanie boy becomes upset that liberals misrepresent him for "clicks", & people like Mangled Mitt fail to look into it. What Tim said is that he merely covered what Moody's Analytics stated at the time, not that he actually believed it, according to the beanie boy. Also 49 state landslide is "a meme" on the right, not a factual descriptor. After the show, Mason used
Tim's prior words to call this out:
Moving on from this, Mason asks for some positive things Tim can say about the left. Tim tries to turn this into a yes/no question on abortion, but Mangled Mitt refuses to be locked into the binary choice, which bothers Phil & the beanie boy. Eventually, Tim says they agree, because both want exceptions for health reasons, but want abortion to be "unthinkable" for other reasons. The beanie boy tries to claim Mason is further right than he is, by asking about tariffs. What ensues is a poor attempt at Socratic method on the issues of trade barriers, & giving illegal aliens the ability to work. This results in Tim labelling Mason as further along the "right economic" scale, than him. The funniest is the beanie boy trying to twist political alignment into a knot to prove his point, by jumping between tribal, economic, & social deliniations:
Mangled Mitt takes a more authority-centric view on dividing people up, but Tim keeps pressing ahead with his own definitions as the correct ones. When Mason tries to push back, & Ian attempts to ask more questions to the guest, Tim continues to interrupt to assert himself as being accurate. What ensues is Tim trying to pigeon-hole the guest into fitting his argument, such as claiming he is more right-wing on immigration for backing legalising people whom snuck into the country:
In the case of de-naturalising, & stripping non-citizens of visas, Mason rejects doing so, particularly for opposing Israel, whilst Tim is more on the fence. When it comes to legalising the illegal aliens, so that they may have greater work protections, but the beanie boy just says people get exploited, whom are legally here, so what is the difference. But snapping back to the right to speak freely versus the Secretary of State's legal power to de-naturalise, Ian fact-checks Tim on the right of immigrants to use the 1st Amendment. & Our Graphene Guy asks Mason at what point do you have to limit that right, citing wartime as a potential. Mangled Mitt says he would not do that, as commander-in-chief. Why is it the burned out drug-addled boob doing a better job asking questions of the guest?:
-Mason asks whom told Tim
Charlie Kirk was stable, in the aftermath of the assassination. The beanie boy does not divulge specifically, but says it was one of Charlie's security team. Tim becomes very emotional recounting the event, & calls out people that mocked him, after the fact, for posting what information was given to him in the moment.
