Science This Is a Child's Brain on Spanking

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We’ve all been there. Helplessly watching as a parent berates and then spanks their child in public. Unless the violence escalates, it’s still legal for parents to lightly spank their children in the United States. But what’s legal isn’t always right.

Various studies have demonstrated that physical punishment such as spanking and other methods of inflicting pain can result in antisocial behavior, aggression, mental health problems, and physical injury to the child. Although the acceptance of physical punishment has decreased ever since the 1960s, about half of American parents still engage in spanking their children, with one-third spanking in the past week.


In addition to various biological, psychological, and social effects, spanking can alter brain function, according to a recent study published in Child Development. Here’s a look at this study, along with some suggested alternatives to spanking.

Neural impact of spanking​

In the current study, researchers assessed the correlation between spanking and neural responses to fearful faces with scary expressions, which served as a proxy for environmental threat.


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The authors found that compared with children who weren’t spanked (n=107), children who were spanked (n=40) exhibited heightened stimulation in various regions of the medial and lateral prefrontal cortex (PFC) including the dorsal anterior cingulate cortex, dorsomedial PFC, bilateral frontal pole, and left middle frontal gyrus. These changes were induced by fearful versus neutral faces. No difference was observed between both groups when viewing neutral faces with benign expressions.


These functional MRI (fMRI) changes in the salience network were similar to findings noted in other studies examining the reactions of children to other forms of abuse and mistreatment including sexual abuse, physical and psychological maltreatment, the witness of domestic violence, and exposure to community violence. Other changes were observed in areas of the brain responsible for the regulation of emotional responses, such as cognitive reappraisal, as well as mentalizing, autobiographical memory, and other facets of social information.


Intriguingly, exposure to spanking was unrelated to changes of the amygdala or the anterior insula, or findings that are often observed in studies of other forms of violence exposure in children.

The case versus spanking​

In light of their findings, the authors suggested that parents lay off spanking when disciplining their children.


“The United States and other countries around the world should discourage the use of corporal punishment through public education and legal prohibition, following the Convention on the Rights of the Child, the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals, and the robust scientific evidence on the harmful consequences of corporal punishment,” the authors wrote.


In addition to the United Nations, various other organizations have rallied against spanking or other forms of corporal punishment, including the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Medical Association, and Psychologists for Social Responsibility.

According to the American Psychiatric Association, spanking doesn’t work—except to temporarily stop a behavior out of fear of getting hit. Instead, spanking and other forms of violence lead to further escalation by parents. Moreover, parents who were spanked when they were young grew up to defend and promote the practice by spanking their own children—perpetuating a vicious circle of abuse.


In a statement, the APA wrote, “Children need love, support, and firm guidance. Parents need to be encouraged to use positive parenting approaches. Showing warmth, having open communication, employing limit-setting, and rewarding positive behavior are some of the parenting behaviors necessary for children to thrive.”


Alternatives to spanking​

Instead of spanking or hitting, parents can use different skills to punish kids.

First, when a child behaves well, effusive praise and positive reinforcement should be used to further encourage desired behaviors.

Second, toddlers can be told to intentionally throw a tantrum sans a trigger. The twist is that the pretend tantrum should not include hitting or kicking. In time, having a child control a tantrum without hitting or kicking will reduce the severity of real tantrums.


Third, parents should remain calm during a child’s tantrum, as well as using time-outs and consistent discipline plans that provide rewards for good behavior.

A variety of parenting classes are available for those interested in learning more, including the Adults and Children Together Against Violence program.


On a final note, it’s tempting to think that laws against spanking by parents could stop the practice. In fact, 30 countries have passed such legislation. In reality, however, these laws are not usually used to criminalize parents, but rather to educate them.
 
weird

I think it's fucking weird people today are detached, cold, removed, and brainless shitstains who are only a slight degree away from being zombies and robots. I don't blame how society's progressed; I blame how people are taught to think and view the world. I think it's fucking weird that people are almost if being made to think in a way where their lives or the world around them doesn't fucking matter.

@From The Uncanny Valley I'm not blaming you, I am just exasperated at a society that nowadays has no mental nor spiritual freedom or development, and is a bunch of coddled self assursed pompous know it all know nothing routine wagecuckery faggotry that demands ideals and mores yet keeps its addictions, vices, and attachements in a hypocritical absurdity paradox.

All of this shit from fucking spanking.

Yeah, I think I'll be happy to raise my kids to teach them that the world can be hard and brutal, but is a world of extremes and that no hardship can last forever, so they may find peace of an intrinsic mean more than to suck dicks to rich bastards for their reptilian brain to be stimulated like a drug lord and his flock materialistically.

tl;dr I just broke existentially and I've gone fucking mad. I'm gonna spank my kids. Fuck you.
you okay man?
 
I will only spank my kids if they do something really fucking stupid and dangerous, or they were being downright very nasty and disrespectful. Anything less than that and i'm just going to have to think outside of the box.

One problem I have is parents either go to two extremes. They either whoop their kids ass as the only punishment they could possibly imagine for almost anything (especially in the south) or they go "thats child abuse!" while doing some half assed punishments that barely work.

If these tards ever saw how some parents in non-western nations punish their kids physically or otherwise they would have a fucking meltdown.
 
Something I always found ominous about spanking or hitting your kids is that I've met some extremely hardcore conservative types who were intensely against the idea of ever laying a hand on their kids, unless the kid was really, really losing it for some reason. I'm talking like serious traditional conservative redneck types too, not just white collar neocons.

I only ever got an explanation out of one of them, and he said he considered it a personal failure to ever have to hit your kid. IE, if you have to get physical, you suck at properly intimidating them and demonstrating your authority to them. He said when his dad hit him it didn't make him respect his dad any more, just that it made him feel like his dad was a thug who couldn't talk his way out of anything, so likewise he doesn't hit his kids to avoid giving them the same impression. Its an interesting point to be honest, I hadn't thought about it that way before.

Never did meet his kids though, so I dunno how this all worked out.
 
My mom did one better: shame or covert pain. Like the good old Indian burns, or twisting the fingers back. Used primarily in grocery stores when I got tired/acted up. Shame was used for the more vocal tantrums; pointing out how everyone is looking at me and what a fool I was acting.

Only once do I remember being actually hit - I mouthed off and knew it, and suddenly a red, veiny hand came up from the dishwater, still dripping soap bubbles, and THWACK across the face. A wet slap fucking STINGS. Never did that again.
 
My mom did one better: shame or covert pain. Like the good old Indian burns, or twisting the fingers back. Used primarily in grocery stores when I got tired/acted up. Shame was used for the more vocal tantrums; pointing out how everyone is looking at me and what a fool I was acting.

Only once do I remember being actually hit - I mouthed off and knew it, and suddenly a red, veiny hand came up from the dishwater, still dripping soap bubbles, and THWACK across the face. A wet slap fucking STINGS. Never did that again.
i unironically believe that shame and humiliation, especially public, have way worse long term damaging effects on the childs mental development than physical punishment
 
i unironically believe that shame and humiliation, especially public, have way worse long term damaging effects on the childs mental development than physical punishment
Probably, but that would depend on the child, the scenario, and the tone taken by the parent. Mom never raised her voice when doing so, more like just telling me how embarrassing I was acting and I think that's actually a good way to let your kid know that people can and do judge you, and that there's a proper way to behave in public. Better that than to be slapped on the keester in public in front of everyone. That's pretty damn shameful too.
 
I will only spank my kids if they do something really fucking stupid and dangerous, or they were being downright very nasty and disrespectful. Anything less than that and i'm just going to have to think outside of the box.

One problem I have is parents either go to two extremes. They either whoop their kids ass as the only punishment they could possibly imagine for almost anything (especially in the south) or they go "thats child abuse!" while doing some half assed punishments that barely work.

If these tards ever saw how some parents in non-western nations punish their kids physically or otherwise they would have a fucking meltdown.

Or having their heads exploding the Scanners way. :story:

Btw, did some of these parents received some freshman initiations when they entered high school/college as shown in the movie "Dazed and Confused"?
 
Lol, we have olive trees on a property my parents own. Each time we visited, my mom would make us collect branches that she would later use to whip us with when we eventually misbehaved. It's odd that the trees used to spank us with made oils that were shipped to different parts of the world. My mom said she like the noise the branches made as they were maneuvered through the air. A kind of whistling sound.
 
It seriously depends on the child. I've seen children who will not respond at all to a spanking beyond the crying-- they'll go back to what it was they were being spanked for in seconds. Sometimes it's done as a lazy way to effect something, when performing a proper maneuver is seen as too energy-consuming-- and I reckon it will never work in those instances.
 
It seriously depends on the child. I've seen children who will not respond at all to a spanking beyond the crying-- they'll go back to what it was they were being spanked for in seconds. Sometimes it's done as a lazy way to effect something, when performing a proper maneuver is seen as too energy-consuming-- and I reckon it will never work in those instances.
Sounds like Chris
 
Counterpoint:

Humanity spent thousands of years living in constant states of trauma, facing much worse at young ages than light spanking.

Yet we only see the largest cases of crippling anxiety, depression and straight up shittyness among the generations that had the most comfortable and least traumatic upbringings.

Maybe, just maybe, kids need to experience trauma as a child so it doesn't cripple them/ruin them as an adult?

Maybe if your parents spanked your ass a few times and didn't try to be your friend you'd be more anxious to get out of their basement before 40?
CS Lewis made this argument. Essentially the idea of shielding children from evil leaves them defenseless when it's their turn to fight it.

Not that you need to traumatize them, but rather they should be aware and made ready to face it. Thing is this is also abused by wokescolds.
 
My father and his father grew up so far out in the sticks that they worked cotton fields by hand for a living. That is of course only to say that they were both hard workers who knew the value of money well earned as well as to set up where my father ends up by the end of this story. Now, to hear my father tell it if he or any of his brothers acted up his dad would bring the wrath of God down upon them. Much more than spankings the way he described it, I’d call them beatings. That said, my father rarely did get into any trouble when he was young and despite his polio he would, following his father’s death, begin working at a warehouse, eventually becoming the Vice President of a very important and influential company.

This is to say that I think spanking and other such mild corporal punishments can work wonders in the right environments especially when supplemented with genuine love and care.

I was spanked and grounded personally, never beaten and my father and I have a fantastic relationship. In fact, he’s my best friend and one of the few people I can genuinely say I’d take a life for. I’ve never feared him, I respect him more than anyone I’ve ever met.
 
Let your kids throw tantrums in public! As long as they dont hit or kick, it's fine for them to scream and cry because you wont buy them a triple chocolate ice cream cone for 9 dollars.
 
It's pretty messed up that the weakest, most vulnerable and unable to defend themselves is the one group that's ok to physically discipline. Can you imagine your boss calling you in for a spanking because you were late on a task?

Even more fucked up when people take a pride in physically disciplining their kids. Looking at the black community.
Sorry, if the three year old makes a dash into the street, all my yelling isn't going to stop them.

The only time I agree. Because getting hit by a car isn't a situation you will be fine from. The pain of the reasonable spank is less then the car while still making a pain association with running into the street.

Every other situation is bad parenting using a crutch because you can't control your child.
 
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The thing with spanking is it must not be done in anger or loss of control. I (like many here probably) got spanked as a kid, but it was never done in an uncontrolled/taking frustration out physically as a kid, and those were usually the result of me doing something dangerous. If it's done in a way which is "taking frustration/anger out", then it is likely abusive, because the objective there is to release anger/frustration physically on the kid, not correct a behaviour.

There are usually other methods of controlling your kid's behaviour and disciplining them without immediately resorting to "get the belt", especially as they get older.
 
I did get spanked now and then, but typically when I mis-behaved, like bullying a literally retarded girl on a school bus. (to expand on that story, they were giving me shit, but I was also totally a little shit that didn't realize their conditions.) I have problems with both of my parents, but it doesn't really stem from the spanking as much as it does other things. I think spanking isn't as effective or universal as some parents want it to be and as the kid gets older there's less reasons to do it rather than teaching them to behave better so they get what they want or accept they won't.

Someone here called it a crutch for parenting and I think it is an accurate way to describe spanking, it can do good, but only as good as the parents are in not relying on it and supplying the kid with genuine love and encouragement to help teach them how to act.
 
The thing with spanking is it must not be done in anger or loss of control
This. I actually see it as the diametric opposite of the parent who gets too friendly with the kid. Both types of parents are acting immature (and it happens, adults are human) just in different ways. It’s not surprising to me that cutting back the one led to a rise in the other.

Discipline comes from the same word as “student” - if a child isn’t learning something from it, it’s bad discipline. As long as a child is learning from it, then do whatever works best for your particular child.
 
My mom referred to four as "the age of reason". She joked that before that kids are pretty much feral animals who neither know nor care about explanations, and after that you can explain consequences and have the idea ping in their brains.

I wasn't spanked often, I think just for the "running into traffic" level offenses when I was a toddler.
 
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