Opinion There’s No Freedom Without Government

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Since Ronald Reagan’s presidency, Republicans have called themselves the party of freedom, while Democrats have focused more on equality, justice and diversity. Now, Democrats are racing to reclaim the mantle of freedom. Their response to the Dobbs decision overturning Roe v. Wade was the opening gun in the bigger race.

To traditional conservatives wedded to the idea that freedom and smaller government are joined at the hip, this development might seem incomprehensible. Despite the populist takeover of the Republican Party, 8 in 10 Trump supporters say they prefer a smaller government providing fewer services, according to recent Pew Research Center polling. By contrast, only 2 in 10 Harris supporters want smaller government. More government means less freedom, conservatives say, so how can Democrats masquerade as the party of freedom?

To find the answer, we must look back to the ideas on which the American political tradition was built. According to the Declaration of Independence, individuals are endowed with natural rights. But it’s one thing to have inherent rights and quite another for those rights to be respected and protected. Individuals can get away with violating others’ rights if there isn’t an enforcement power to stop them. That’s why government is needed—to “secure” our ability to exercise our rights—and it must be strong enough to do so. Government can go too far, and citizens must resist it—with their voices and votes, and through the courts—when it overreaches. Conversely, a government too weak to secure our rights is not more but less compatible with freedom.

What rights does the government exist to protect? Most Americans can recite the triad: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But preceding this passage in the Declaration are the words “among these are.” This language implies—and the Constitution’s Ninth Amendment underscores—that people have other unalienable rights as well, some of which are unenumerated, meaning not explicitly stated in the law. When government expands to protect these rights, it doesn’t exceed its rightful authority.

The Sixth Amendment, for instance, states that in all criminal prosecutions, the defendant has the right to have the “assistance of counsel for his defense.” If a defendant can’t afford a lawyer, this right is an empty promise—unless the government provides one at public expense. In Gideon v. Wainwright (1963), the Supreme Court rightly required government to do just that. There it is: an expansion of government, but for a critical purpose.

Another example: The 15th Amendment says that neither the federal government nor a state may deny or limit the right of American citizens to vote. But for nearly a century after this amendment’s passage, many states flagrantly disregarded it and the federal government failed to enforce it—until the civil-rights movement forced the issue. Enforcement proved costly, complex and controversial. Once again, a larger and stronger government was needed to secure a fundamental right.

In his 1941 State of the Union address, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt outlined “four freedoms” he believed the government was obligated to protect: freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom from want and freedom from fear. The Atlantic Charter, signed by Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, expanded on these four freedoms and formed the core of the Allies’ fight against Nazism. These ideas about freedom eventually made their way into the founding documents of the United Nations. Far from being radical or un-American, they became the subject of some of Norman Rockwell’s most famous paintings.

Freedom from want and fear affect individual liberty and prospects for collective self-government.
“Necessitous men are not free men,” Roosevelt said in 1944. “People who are hungry, people who are out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.” He was right: Desperate times allow demagogues to appeal to people’s needs and emotions, and then no one’s liberties are safe.

When a government collects taxes, it restricts my freedom to use these resources for my own purposes. But without revenue, the government won’t have what it needs to carry out its responsibilities. The government’s existence necessarily imposes limits on us. Our rights, however, can’t be secured without such limitations. A definition of freedom that ignores this truth undermines itself.

In every society, some individuals and groups are stronger than others, and they’ll perennially be tempted to use their strength to the disadvantage of others. As philosopher Isaiah Berlin once wrote, “Total liberty for wolves is death to the lambs.” Government is needed to protect the rights to vote, speak freely, assemble peaceably, organize to improve workplaces and society, and compete as entrepreneurs on a level playing field. A government too weak to protect vulnerable members of society is too weak to fulfill its constitutional promise of equal freedom under the law.

 
Individuals can get away with violating others’ rights if there isn’t an enforcement power to stop them. That’s why government is needed—to “secure” our ability to exercise our rights—and it must be strong enough to do so
Mighty words coming from the party that supports abortion. If not even the right to life of the most innocent is sacred, nothing else is
 
If a woman has a right to abortion, that having that right is necessary for the freedom of that woman, than men have an equal right to an equivalent. One can not say a woman should be allowed to remove unwanted children from her life, in what fashion that takes, while also at the same time denying men an equal right to do similar. Perhaps democrats pledges of supporting freedom will hold more purchase in the minds of the American public if they start speaking about the inherent rights of men.
 
I'll take their word on it when they start stringing up bankers and traitors. Strong governments are the only ones capable of protecting the rights of the citizen. The modern US government is extremely weak and bows to corporations, plutocrats, and foreign powers.
 
William A. Galston is a Brookings Institution faggot, and it has always mystified me why the WSJ editorial page publishes his retardation regularly for 11 years now

First of all, the United States was founded to preserve and perpetuate individual (political) liberty. There is a lot of overlap between freedom and liberty, but they are not synonyms

Secondly, the most fundamental principle of American civics, that the power to govern is derived from the consent of the governed, makes no appearance in this piece. That is unsurprising considering the author, but still extremely disappointing, and discrediting to the entire argument. The size of the government should not be determined by whether some people think it needs to be THIS big enough to preserve "freedom." It should be determined by what the people want it to be

Thirdly, we are going to frisk the absolute worst bits
What rights does the government exist to protect? Most Americans can recite the triad: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But preceding this passage in the Declaration are the words “among these are.” This language implies—and the Constitution’s Ninth Amendment underscores—that people have other unalienable rights as well, some of which are unenumerated, meaning not explicitly stated in the law. When government expands to protect these rights, it doesn’t exceed its rightful authority.
The government has not the rightful authority to expand itself in the protection of unenumerated rights. The government only has the rightful authority to expand itself so far as the people consent. I'm being normative here, please don't waste my time with ' haha you awkshoolly think that's how it works? :smug: '

What this paragraph really is, is a loophole for indefinite expansion of government based on the government's specification of unenumerated rights that need to be protected
In his 1941 State of the Union address, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt outlined “four freedoms” he believed the government was obligated to protect: freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom from want and freedom from fear. The Atlantic Charter, signed by Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, expanded on these four freedoms and formed the core of the Allies’ fight against Nazism. These ideas about freedom eventually made their way into the founding documents of the United Nations. Far from being radical or un-American, they became the subject of some of Norman Rockwell’s most famous paintings.
Freedom from want and freedom from fear, when gone into detail, always end up being socialism. A paternalistic, controlling State. That always fails to deliver freedom of any kind. Note the difference: Freedom OF speech. Freedom OF religion. Freedom FROM want. Freedom FROM fear. The first two are rights the individual is wholly capable of effectively exercising independently. They do not require the individual to force other individuals. The last two require individuals to band together to force other individuals, to such a degree and in such a manner that freedom and liberty are both made impossible

Referencing Normal Rockwell works painted during WW2, that were created to serve as government propaganda tools pushing a war-bond campaign (a very successful one at that), is ham-fisted and fallacious. Might as well say "Mom taught you to share and to help people, so an infinitely expanding government to share the national wealth and help people is as American as mom's apple pie!"
Freedom from want and fear affect individual liberty and prospects for collective self-government. “Necessitous men are not free men,” Roosevelt said in 1944. “People who are hungry, people who are out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.” He was right: Desperate times allow demagogues to appeal to people’s needs and emotions, and then no one’s liberties are safe.
It's the ouroboros of the Western left: we need a large, controlling government, to protect us from the government becoming large and controlling
When a government collects taxes, it restricts my freedom to use these resources for my own purposes. But without revenue, the government won’t have what it needs to carry out its responsibilities. The government’s existence necessarily imposes limits on us. Our rights, however, can’t be secured without such limitations. A definition of freedom that ignores this truth undermines itself.
WE DECIDE WHAT THOSE LIMITATIONS ARE. Again, nowhere but once in this appears any concept of the people deciding these things. All that is mentioned, BUT ONCE, is the government

And, swinging back around to near the beginning, here is the ONE reference to power residing in individuals
Government can go too far, and citizens must resist it—with their voices and votes, and through the courts—when it overreaches.
Talk about something undermining itself! If no one's liberties are safe, how much use is resistance through voting and "the courts" worth? Voting is a liberty. The rule of law, and equality under and before the law, are liberties. The people who wrote and ratified the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution, that Galston twist so shamelessly, had more than a few things to say about the ultimate guarantor of the people's freedoms and liberty. A guarantor which Galston conspicuously fails to mention
 
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Well...freedom isn't an inherent good at a very basic level, it merely is: a state of freedom implies no morality. So it does follow to a certain extent that for a society that prioritizes individual freedom to thrive, that some order must be imposed somehow, but the manner and scale of this enforcement is impor-
>the article is just more abortion whinging
Nevermind, no more words needed. 😑
 
Freedom is a scarce good, since freedom for one person often takes away freedom from someone else. For instance, when I use my freedom of speech to say a true and honest transwoman looks like a dude in a dress, I am taking away his freedom to feel comfortable as what he identifies as. Like any other scarce resource, the government's job is to allocate who gets what amount of freedom. Ergo the government is never actually creating more freedom or securing anyone's freedom, it's simply reallocating freedom. Conservatives and liberals alike frequently misunderstand this.
I'll take their word on it when they start stringing up bankers and traitors. Strong governments are the only ones capable of protecting the rights of the citizen. The modern US government is extremely weak and bows to corporations, plutocrats, and foreign powers.
Corporations and plutocrats are the government deputizing others to act in their stead because they're too weak to do so otherwise. It's no different than the Democrat love of the KKK a century ago or in the Middle Ages when they'd outsource government functions to private citizens and their private militias (feudalism) or to the church.
 
A government too weak to protect vulnerable members of society is too weak to fulfill its constitutional promise of equal freedom under the law.
Who decides who is vulnerable exactly? The idea that whities are the ones in power is just makes believe propaganda. Government doesn't guarantee freedom, but i's a necessary evil for a semblance of order, however a big government stifles freedom once lobbyists and interest groups start deciding who "deserves" protection.
 
Individuals can get away with violating others’ rights if there isn’t an enforcement power to stop them.
Guns. Lots of guns.
What this guy is arguing is that law and order is needed in any society larger than a family, and I think that’s true. You achieve that two ways:
1. A fair and just constitution or law framework that sets out inalienable rights and the minimum enforcement to keep them
2. An homogenous sane society
The problem with more government and current government is they’ve damaged both concepts so badly that they e created chaos. The opposite of order and instead of trying to restore that order they are just squeezing harder.

Imagine having a bunch of farm dogs you train up from pups with clear fair rules so form a well disciplined pack. They can roam about the farm kitchen happily and order and clam ensues. Then someone puts four hundred feral dogs on your farm that are adults, and mangy. Order is gone and you have to start rounding them up and cracking down hard.
The answer to this stuff isn’t more laws, it’s restoring our peaceful societies
 
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