TheNeoMutualist vs. USPG2 - How a single political argument turned into a full on roast showdown (Best of USPG2)

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China also has a consistent demographic rate and low immigration, China by the Rights own metric is more based.
If by consistent demographic rate, you mean a declining population, then sure they do. Their fertility rate was 0.93 for 2025. Net migration in recent years averages -300k.

Because China is a toxic shithole
Maybe he shouldnt have been greasing kids with Napalm. Americans didnt treat Vietnam vets harsh enough, majority volunteered to kill people wanting freedom for their country and I should care some Vietnamese beat him around a couple of times. I think by the way the person literally delivering a "very hot place" is going to hell instead of the person supporting actual Patriots fighting for freedom.
people volunteered because if you wait to get drafted you’re guaranteed to go into infantry
Actually the forever wars tend to be popular LMAO all the while they are actually the massive drains. We have 38 trillion in debt and this will just make it worse. You dont actually want to deal with the slow painful death of the country which will be done through the debt and not us not blowing up an 86 year old.
When you compare total debt, including government, household AND corporate, your beloved China is 34 percentage points worse off than us and they don’t even get to bomb people
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We are heading towards another great depression, it’s called a 38 trillion dollar debt you retard. Its going to be even worse than the first because assets will be wholly stripped from us
It’s ok, as long as China ends up glassed, there will be a world left to rebuild
 
If by consistent demographic rate, you mean a declining population, then sure they do. Their fertility rate was 0.93 for 2025. Net migration in recent years averages -300k.

Because China is a toxic shithole

people volunteered because if you wait to get drafted you’re guaranteed to go into infantry

When you compare total debt, including government, household AND corporate, your beloved China is 34 percentage points worse off than us and they don’t even get to bomb people
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It’s ok, as long as China ends up glassed, there will be a world left to rebuild
They are also nearly all Han Chinese. We are going to be a Latin American country. Ergo yes, China is demographically superior because its homogenous. Ergo yes, China is more Right wing than the US by that metric. They also couldve just gone to jail, better to go to jail than kill children. China is also the one largely buying US debt and its in far less quantity and as the dollar gets weaker, the golden yuan is going to get stronger. China with a strong homogenous population, actual production and us having a weaker currency means China will win in the long term. Also no, China doesnt need to be glassed, we need actual austerity, primarily against the military, social security, etc.
 
Americans didnt treat Vietnam vets harsh enough, majority volunteered to kill people wanting freedom for their country
I think by the way the person literally delivering a "very hot place" is going to hell instead of the person supporting actual Patriots fighting for freedom.
Uh huh.

So could you take a second out of your very busy treaty-breaking communist ball gargleing schedule to explain how the South Vietnamese didn't exist and the entire war was just ebil amerkkans vs wholesome chungus Viet Cong and no one else?

Maybe some apologia for the 200k people sent to "reeducation camps" by the "actual Patriots fighting for freedom"'s regime? Or the 65k-100k tortured and executed after the war ended?

NVA simps need to be beaten. Severely.
 
Uh huh.

So could you take a second out of your very busy treaty-breaking communist ball gargleing schedule to explain how the South Vietnamese didn't exist and the entire war was just ebil amerkkans vs wholesome chungus Viet Cong and no one else?

Maybe some apologia for the 200k people sent to "reduction camps" by the "actual Patriots fighting for freedom"'s regime? Or the 65k-100k tortured and executed after the war ended?

NVA simps need to be beaten. Severely.
yes the South Vietnamese didnt exist, there was no Northern equivalent of the Vietcong, it was a blatant puppet state. Also yes, traitors get executed, what happens if you lose a war. The NVA were actual patriots, end of story.
 
yes the South Vietnamese didnt exist, there was no Northern equivalent of the Vietcong, it was a blatant puppet state. Also yes, traitors get executed, what happens if you lose a war. The NVA were actual patriots, end of story.
You aren't wrong on this, they were protecting their land, and did a pretty good job up it right up until the battle of Hue.
 
yes the South Vietnamese didnt exist, there was no Northern equivalent of the Vietcong, it was a blatant puppet state. Also yes, traitors get executed, what happens if you lose a war. The NVA were actual patriots, end of story.
After demarcation in 1954, following the Geneva Accords, Vietnamese people raced to the South. The reason was simple: they did not want to live under communism. Many Vietnamese people saw the Vietnamese communists as foreign because they received so much assistance from the Soviets and the Chinese communists. A huge portion simply saw them as terrorists, which they were. American revolutionaries didn't set off bombs in coffee shops or murder the families of political opponents in the middle of the night, but the Viet Minh (and later Viet Cong) absolutely did.

The reason there was no northern equivalent of the Viet Cong post-1954 is because the North Vietnamese killed everyone. I mean that literally. Many people trying to flee to the south after demarcation were stopped and killed for being political enemies. Anyone who stuck around and did not swear allegiance to the communists was killed. Hell, even other communists were killed: between 1946 and 1960, the Vietnamese communists carried out a series of pogroms that eliminated tens of thousands (probably more) of Vietnamese communist groups that, in some way, opposed Ho Chi Minh. Some of them didn't even directly challenge Ho Chi Minh and were killed simply for believing in a different branch of communism, like Soviet-style urban communism. To the Vietnamese communists, the definition of a "traitor" changed every day and a huge reason the world didn't push the US on reunification was because the North Vietnamese kept slaughtering their own people for minor political criticisms.

Diem was a lot of things, but he was not pressured by the US. He was pro-American on his own. Him being a stubborn ass was actually a constant issue for the US. Diem was also the longest-serving leader of South Vietnam. You aren't the leader of a nation for 8 years if you're incompetent. I won't say he was the greatest leader, because he wasn't, but the idea that he was a complete boob surviving solely on US support is incorrect and is propaganda pushed forward by foreign anti-American communist groups, by retarded student protesters, and domestic anti-American "media" groups (traitors) who focused on Diem's insane wife, Madame Nhu (who was a shitposting cunt par excellence).

You know who was a complete boob serving solely on US support? Literally all of the leaders after Diem who served a few months before being pushed out of office.

I don't know how to put this any other way, but retarded faggots like the one I'm quoting would easily find themselves on their knees, with their hands tied behind their backs, crying and begging that they were good little communists before getting shot in the back of their stupid little heads. Not because they even did anything wrong, per se, except think that communism is anything but the culmination of science as it is applied to the state: efficiency uber alles. If you are no longer useful, or are in any way a real or potential threat, you are eliminated.
 
The Vietnamese Communists were also the ones actually fighting the French while the Vietnamese Southern State were basically a glorified French puppet. While yes a million people did move from North Vietnam to South Vietnam, the South still did have a large insurgency force that the North didnt have to deal with, showing that the North was still overall more popular. Also I will be frank, Ho Chi Minh wasnt a Communist, I never claimed he was a Communist, but objectively he was fighting a Nationalist Revolution for the freedom of Vietnam away from foreign powers. Now is that the end all, be all, no, I think Decolonization was frankly a ruse and just financialized itself, but still Ho Chi Minh was fighting for an independent Vietnam and the US still had no reason to be in it, much less greasing kids with Napalm.
Diem was a lot of things, but he was not pressured by the US. He was pro-American on his own. Him being a stubborn ass was actually a constant issue for the US. Diem was also the longest-serving leader of South Vietnam. You aren't the leader of a nation for 8 years if you're incompetent. I won't say he was the greatest leader, because he wasn't, but the idea that he was a complete boob surviving solely on US support is incorrect and is propaganda pushed forward by foreign anti-American communist groups, by retarded student protesters, and domestic anti-American "media" groups (traitors) who focused on Diem's insane wife, Madame Nhu (who was a shitposting cunt par excellence).

You know who was a complete boob serving solely on US support? Literally all of the leaders after Diem who served a few months before being pushed out of office.
theres truth in this with him being killed by the CIA, but Diem was also comically corrupt and had policies so shit to the Buddhist religious minority, they burned themselves alive. Also yes, you can be a leader of a nation for eight years while being incompetent, Enver Hoxha is proof of this.
 
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