TheNeoMutualist vs. USPG2 - How a single political argument turned into a full on roast showdown (Best of USPG2)

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dawg, we have only reached the early middle stage of Capitalism, I think we can accelerate it through AI development, but hell it took thousands of years to get out of Feudalism. Communism is impossible until the Proletariat is wholly displaced by technology imo.
It would have to be some sort of post-scarcity society which doesn't look too likely. Maybe for service/software industries but anything physical no. And that's an interesting position to say that only when the proles are all gone can you have communism.
 
It's even worse. Situationists were among the OG theater kid commies, very much rejecting the idea that art & politics can or ever should be separate (their ideological descendants are responsible for shitting up your favorite vidya, in other words). This nigger subscribes to the faggiest sort of Marxism and Marxists, Franco & Stalin were both right about his kind.
say what you want about them, inspired one of the greatest bands/albums ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdd...mIHRoZSBkdXJ1dHRpIGNvbHVtbiBmdWxsIGFsYnVtoAcB and "Society of the Spectacle" is the most important philosophical work of the 20th century, also art is inherently political, by any degree of censorship in a society it is political
It would have to be some sort of post-scarcity society which doesn't look too likely. Maybe for service/software industries but anything physical no. And that's an interesting position to say that only when the proles are all gone can you have communism.
Except it can be done through technology, scientific advancement, etc. Hell, we technically at least in the West have the architecture for an extremely early version of it (ala Graeber's Bullshit Jobs has a good argument for UBI). Also yes, the Proletariat needs to be displaced first for them to be a Revolutionary force, without a Proletariat, there cannot be a Bourgeoisie, if the work the Proletariat does is automated and yet class society isnt destroyed, it is literally a worthless imbalance that no Prole who through this mass displacement would outrank the Bourgeoisie in the billions to thousands. Hierarchy is necessary to human progress, but when progress becomes automated, its useless.
 
dawg, we have only reached the early middle stage of Capitalism, I think we can accelerate it through AI development, but hell it took thousands of years to get out of Feudalism. Communism is impossible until the Proletariat is wholly displaced by technology imo.
So you subscribe to Nick Land’s way of thinking?
amazing LARP, blud killed a Social Democrat at most and then got cucked by his own people to host elections. At least praise someone actually competent like Salazar, dont be cheap about it.
Tf is this diddyblud talking about bruh 🫩🫩🫩 Bro thought he did something
 
So you subscribe to Nick Land’s way of thinking?
Yes, I agree with him in Fanged Noumena, but disagree with Dark Enlightenment. Land is very much a Marxist in Noumena, hell Fanged Noumena is just an extension of Anti-Oedipus and the intertwining of Marxism and Existentialism is Situationism, Land from Fanged Noumena is a Situationist, even if unconscious of it. Hell, I view Massie2028 as a political situation to disrupt the commonplace of Bourgeois politics, Massie as is Trump are both "Spectacular" political figures in the sense they are existential enemies and clearly at war over the party, I back Massie because I think both this situation can accelerate the productive forces (theres a reason Marx actually supported Free Trade) and the Class Consciousness of the US Proletariat.
capitalism doesn't have "stages" and Marx was a fucking idiot
oh yeah, Industrial Capitalism and Financial Capitalism are truly one in the same, midwit cope.
 
capitalism doesn't have "stages" and Marx was a fucking idiot
Marx also thought the UK would be one of the first countries to adopt Marxism because they went through all the “stages” of capitalism except for revolution. To him, “late stage capitalism” was just the zenith of capitalism, in which revolution would soon follow. According to him, the US has been in “late stage capitalism” for roughly 150 years lol
 
Yes, I agree with him in Fanged Noumena, but disagree with Dark Enlightenment. Land is very much a Marxist in Noumena, hell Fanged Noumena is just an extension of Anti-Oedipus and the intertwining of Marxism and Existentialism is Situationism, Land from Fanged Noumena is a Situationist, even if unconscious of it. Hell, I view Massie2028 as a political situation to disrupt the commonplace of Bourgeois politics, Massie as is Trump are both "Spectacular" political figures in the sense they are existential enemies and clearly at war over the party, I back Massie because I think both this situation can accelerate the productive forces (theres a reason Marx actually supported Free Trade) and the Class Consciousness of the US Proletariat.

oh yeah, Industrial Capitalism and Financial Capitalism are truly one in the same, midwit cope.
You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
 
say what you want about them, inspired one of the greatest bands/albums ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdd...mIHRoZSBkdXJ1dHRpIGNvbHVtbiBmdWxsIGFsYnVtoAcB and "Society of the Spectacle" is the most important philosophical work of the 20th century, also art is inherently political, by any degree of censorship in a society it is political
Nice try, Anita Sarkeesian, but this 'art is inherently political' line & the sort of thinking it represents wore out its welcome 12 years ago. Still, I suppose I must thank you & everyone who thought like you for shitting up popular media & every entertainment industry so hard that it pissed people off into voting for Trump twice, now if only he would namedrop Gamergate to finally realize the prophecy foretold by Sargon of Applebee's...

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Marx also thought the UK would be one of the first countries to adopt Marxism because they went through all the “stages” of capitalism except for revolution. To him, “late stage capitalism” was just the zenith of capitalism, in which revolution would soon follow. According to him, the US has been in “late stage capitalism” for roughly 150 years lol
Marx was an optimist, but he was wrong in his idea of Late Stage Capitalism, hell the Financial Capitalism we have is just the Middle Stage imo and we are in the early Middle Stage. Again you can and should be a Marxist while admitting Marx got some stuff wrong, while also recognizing he and Proudhon were correct in there model of Material Analysis. Dare I say, Engels is the one who fudged shit up lol to the point Debord and Deleuze/Guattari were the ones to actually revive Marxism after Marx's death and made it both Proletarian and Revolutionary again in both a material and political context with Land being the last great contributor.
Nice try, Anita Sarkeesian, but this 'art is inherently political' line & the sort of thinking it represents wore out its welcome 12 years ago. Still, I suppose I must thank you & everyone who thought like you for shitting up popular media & every entertainment industry so hard that it pissed people off into voting for Trump twice, now if only he would namedrop Gamergate to finally realize the prophecy foretold by Sargon of Applebee's...

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so Far Cry 2, Morrowind (my two favorite games for context) arent political even when they base themselves in an organization of society in one form or another? Politics is just how a group of people is organized, thats it.
DIG THE FUCKING HOLE.
amazing LARP
 
Yes, I agree with him in Fanged Noumena, but disagree with Dark Enlightenment. Land is very much a Marxist in Noumena, hell Fanged Noumena is just an extension of Anti-Oedipus and the intertwining of Marxism and Existentialism is Situationism, Land from Fanged Noumena is a Situationist, even if unconscious of it. Hell, I view Massie2028 as a political situation to disrupt the commonplace of Bourgeois politics, Massie as is Trump are both "Spectacular" political figures in the sense they are existential enemies and clearly at war over the party, I back Massie because I think both this situation can accelerate the productive forces (theres a reason Marx actually supported Free Trade) and the Class Consciousness of the US Proletariat.

oh yeah, Industrial Capitalism and Financial Capitalism are truly one in the same, midwit cope.
Very interesting are you sponging off the government or your parents?
 
Marx also thought the UK would be one of the first countries to adopt Marxism because they went through all the “stages” of capitalism except for revolution. To him, “late stage capitalism” was just the zenith of capitalism, in which revolution would soon follow. According to him, the US has been in “late stage capitalism” for roughly 150 years lol
One thing most people don't know about Marx is that his economic theory was so fucking stupid--full of basic logic gaps and factual errors--that it got zero traction at the time, and economists were dumbfounded that anyone expected them to take it seriously. It should have been over after Das Kapital finished publication and failed to answer any of the questions the first volume raised, but Marxists have something better than coherent theory and a useful description of observable phenomena. They have religious zealotry, and they used that to take over one university after another.
 
Yes, I agree with him in Fanged Noumena, but disagree with Dark Enlightenment. Land is very much a Marxist in Noumena, hell Fanged Noumena is just an extension of Anti-Oedipus and the intertwining of Marxism and Existentialism is Situationism, Land from Fanged Noumena is a Situationist, even if unconscious of it.

Nibba, do you ever re-read what you wrote before posting? This is one of the more silly billy things I've ever seen and I was forced in college (by my own learning choices) to consume large quantities of Foucault and Derrida.
 
nah, I live with my Fiancée and work a BS Job, I just like to fuck around on forums like this once in a while cause its funny
Bro

Convincing people you are personally invested in some post modern existentialist fusion isn’t the flex you seem to think it is

It’s like, you found a hole that had nothing of value in it and dug deeper than the vast majority of people would have any interest in

Yes, you’re exceptional. Just not in a good way

It’s like knowing all the names of characters from a soap from the 60’s, except even less cool

Or like one of those music fans who professes unfathomable knowledge of micro genres by adding “core” to the end of random words
 
capitalism doesn't have "stages" and Marx was a fucking idiot
Dude this guy is acting like he's some huge Anti jew guy, but he's suckign off marxism which is one of the most jewish things to ever jew. Marx was very much jewish, his grandpa was a rabbi ffs.

He's a dumb person acting like a dumb person's idea of a smart person.
 
I’d assume she(?)’s the man in the relationship?
LMAO, nah I am, a bit of a Trad in my personal life, but she is Asian so I am a race mixer and banned from Agartha for that.
And what do you do at the business factory?
again, its a BS Email job, you have a meeting every so often, manage some emails here and there, but most of it is just trying to look busy lol, literally all white collar jobs are that LMAO
One thing most people don't know about Marx is that his economic theory was so fucking stupid--full of basic logic gaps and factual errors--that it got zero traction at the time, and economists were dumbfounded that anyone expected them to take it seriously. It should have been over after Das Kapital finished publication and failed to answer any of the questions the first volume raised, but Marxists have something better than coherent theory and a useful description of observable phenomena. They have religious zealotry, and they used that to take over one university after another.
The average "Marxist" is literally a basic bitch Social Democrat LMAO, Marx is primarily a philosopher, not an Economist, if you think him being correct about the amount of Linen for a coat is the main point of Capital, you didnt actually read it.
Nibba, do you ever re-read what you wrote before posting? This is one of the more silly billy things I've ever read and I forced in college by my learning choices to consume large quantities of Foucault and Derrida.
its literally true LMAO, Foucault was just a shitty Existentialist and so was Derrida. Postmodernism is a scam to deflect from the fact that Bourgeois academia has nothing of value to offer outside of hollow platitudes.
lolcow breaks containment and show up in serious important adult news (S2 Underground), however no lulz were observed. We will continue monitoring the situation.

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aww man, wanted another episode of the Will Stancil show
Dude this guy is acting like he's some huge Anti jew guy, but he's suckign off marxism which is one of the most jewish things to ever jew. Marx was very much jewish, his grandpa was a rabbi ffs.

He's a dumb person acting like a dumb person's idea of a smart person.
nah im not anti-Jewish, I am Anti-American Imperialism, Israel is a tumor of American Imperialism that has ultimately broken off from the main body and is now a wholly destructive force. Also Marx wasnt actually Jewish, he was just a quarter ethnically, never practiced nor was tied to the community, "On the Jewish Question" supports the destruction of Judaism as a religion as he does all religious structures. Jesus was far more Jewish than Marx ever was.
 
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