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tsumiki said:
Yeah, no problem. If you're going to art school you're gonna have to hear the same speech. Over and over again, lol. Can't say how many times I had to sit through a mandatory 'THIS IS HOW YOU DEVELOP A DEMO REEL AND THIS IS HOW YOU NETWORK' lecture.

I dunno what kind of school you're going to, but if it's possible, you should take up a minor in animation, fine arts, or illustration. It will be helpful if you're struggling with art skills. Animation helps out a lot with art skills but illustration is what's really gonna take it to another level.

Also, there's a bunch of animation events you might want to attend...my school goes to Ottawa International Animation Festival every year and there's also CTN. CTN is a big name animation expo, so you probably already heard of that one. These are great networking opportunities. They're pricey but it's worth going, even if you can attend once.
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Thanks! I'm at a small community college, so most of those won't be available. I'll see what there is though. Other than that, I can probably learn it on my own. I did that for three years and it got me pretty far.
 
Teddy said:
He's alright. He seems to like cartoons yet doesn't take them seriously.


Plus he helped get Rude Removal out.
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He basically the opposite of enter seeing as Pan understand how to make and pitch a cartoon, and is gaining experience before trying rather then just trying to make a cartoon before even finishing college, and just other thing such as he more chill when reviewing, with a more dirty sense of humour. Knows how to edit and have his own style.

and also his webcomic seem like it could be interesting.
 
So as an update, I've been informing MrEnter about the realities of the pitch since yesterday. I've known about it for a while, but thanks to you guys I finally decided to tell him.

The plan for now is to work on the pilot so the team has experience in what their doing and post it to youtube. During the time of production, we'll look into how to improve the show as a whole. Whether it be rewriting characters, expanding on concepts or what not. Essentially the whole show could be rewritten.
Anyways, after the pilot's release, we will use our ideas to make a first episode. Production should go a lot smoother with practice from before.

As for the pitch, me, MrEnter, or both of us, will be finding a way to get in the animation industry so we have credible experience to present.
 
Nayolfa said:
So as an update, I've been informing MrEnter about the realities of the pitch since yesterday. I've known about it for a while, but thanks to you guys I finally decided to tell him.

The plan for now is to work on the pilot so the team has experience in what their doing and post it to youtube. During the time of production, we'll look into how to improve the show as a whole. Whether it be rewriting characters, expanding on concepts or what not. Essentially the whole show could be rewritten.
Anyways, after the pilot's release, we will use our ideas to make a first episode. Production should go a lot smoother with practice from before.

As for the pitch, me, MrEnter, or both of us, will be finding a way to get in the animation industry so we have credible experience to present.
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This is a better attitude to have about the whole thing, and Youtube is a better home for the show than a national network. But be aware that with a product like this, you're going to get criticism on the final work. Don't ignore it. At the very best, Growing Around can be considered a "first draft" into your animation career. Keep it small and keep your mind open.
 
100 Whole Bepis said:
This is a better attitude to have about the whole thing, and Youtube is a better home for the show than a national network. But be aware that with a product like this, you're going to get criticism on the final work. Don't ignore it. At the very best, Growing Around can be considered a "first draft" into your animation career. Keep it small and keep your mind open.
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I've always considered it as a "first draft". I just never really mentioned it anyone else on the team.
 
Nayolfa said:
I've always considered it as a "first draft". I just never really mentioned it anyone else on the team.
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I'd just like to add that I think, especially with your talent in art when you try new things, I believe cartoons are just an amazing way to make anything from the imagination come to life, and with that in mind, I really do hope Enter and the others listen to you and any true advice you had gotten here. I still watch cartoons from time to time, I just know with what is currently being done with GA, I would not care to watch it unless it did a lot of changes and maybe got way more inspired by the unlimited possibilities with animation, coloring, unique styles, etc. And I'm just saying that honestly, not as a 'troll,' since I think it would be nice to have animated cartoons back without being mind-numbingly dull like CN and Nick have gotten.

And if for some reason GA doesn't end up well, you can continue doing what you love - art!
 
tsumiki said:
Yeah, that's all great stuff. It's amazing how a lot of cartoons were made back then, even the ones that had to use limited animation (there's a lot of funny stuff with timing). One of my teachers restores old animated films and he shows our class old cartoons often. He even showed us some old cartoons that haven't been seen since the twenties and thirties. I never really appreciated the old stuff until I took animation classes. I missed out on a lot of good stuff, lol.

And yeah, Preston Blair is fantastic. He has a book too. Disney's nine old men are worth studying too.
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I actually have that book too. Small world.

Nayolfa said:
I heard about it from an animator I watch. Anyways, I plan on getting into the animation industry after Graphic Design. I'm not the best artist right now, so I'm using graphic design (for a job) and this cartoon as an way to get better.
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I think the best course you should take aside from Graphic design, is a life studies course to help bone up on proportions, anatomy and be able to draw humans a bit better. And make sure to practice as often as you can. Don't end up like me, all rusty from not having drawn in so long.

That being said, once I get my skills up to a reasonable level, I'd be willing to help out with animation or storyboards if you ever want me. My opinions on Enter and his ideas may not change, but if you want to learn, why not do it together? Just thought I'd throw it out there.
 
The Jumping Dwarf said:
http://mrenter.shoutwiki.com/wiki/DaanNLseventeen

Did some research on Daan and expanded the article. The guy is a real piece of work. We really might have another lolcow in our hands.

His Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/daannlseventeen

His Growing Around wiki userpage: http://growaround.wikia.com/wiki/User:DaanNLseventeen

Him sperging on Encyclopedia Dramatica: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/in...MrEnter&curid=284750&diff=708287&oldid=708286
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He's more of a mini-lolcow than an actual lolcow.
 
Hey, folks, I just wanted to say nice job on the wiki... except in the "Casey Alexander Twitter Attacks" article.

The fact is, Casey admitted that Plankton's suicide attempt in "One Coarse Meal" was supposed to be done "in a silly way," and that's what set him off (Casey also admitted it was meant to show that Krabs had gone too far, but he kinda missed that all-important detail).
 
Nayolfa said:
So as an update, I've been informing MrEnter about the realities of the pitch since yesterday. I've known about it for a while, but thanks to you guys I finally decided to tell him.

The plan for now is to work on the pilot so the team has experience in what their doing and post it to youtube. During the time of production, we'll look into how to improve the show as a whole. Whether it be rewriting characters, expanding on concepts or what not. Essentially the whole show could be rewritten.
Anyways, after the pilot's release, we will use our ideas to make a first episode. Production should go a lot smoother with practice from before.

As for the pitch, me, MrEnter, or both of us, will be finding a way to get in the animation industry so we have credible experience to present.
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Holy crap, did we actually get through to someone?

Godspeed, and good luck.
 
Well, now that the creators seem to know that their show won't make it on the networks, it might genuinely go somewhere.

If he isn't convinced that short, Homestar Runner-type 3-minute toons are the best way to do his show, then he probably will be soon...
 
McRascal said:
Calling him out on his crappy behavior isn't bad, I'm totally cool with it. He also has a lot of pretty psycho fans who need to sit the fuck down and remember what they're fuming about, because it's incredibly ridiculous in how livid or obsessive they get over any little difference of opinion over him or his show. I think Enter has way too high of an opinion of himself and his rabid fans don't help, I just mean grade-z 'trolling' of doing nothing but poking him with a stick and laughing isn't proving anything except you don't like him. He's already biased that if you don't agree with him or like him, you must be a troll.

He's a lolcow, no doubt about it, but there's no reason to treat this like we have to corner him and make as many accounts as possible for him to ban - we can easily just continue pointing out his mountain of flaws here, both of his own attitude and his show, and discuss it rationally without resorting to just going "yeah he's pretty much a faget I'm gonna spam his account some more." By all means go for it, I don't care, but that's not proving any sort of points anyone wants to make. I'm just here to analyze why I don't like his show or his reviews. He already chimps out knowing we're still here sharing actual opinions on how his show is not going to take off, without being hateful, despite his opinionated beliefs against all our 'cyberbullying.'
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I haven't made an account specifically to bug him on the site (DeviantArt).
 
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