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McRascal said:
It's kinda why I'm leaving the thread; people were exchanging actual reasons they believed the show would not work and were giving honest reviews. I'm not saying I'm on either side, but resorting to just "what a sore loser I trolled him here and he blocked me lolololol" isn't telling anyone that we're actually here to help or give good criticism. This forum isn't a support board, I know that, but we went from giving honest critiques to "hey guys I'm gonna bug Enter and everyone he knows, pls notice me" so of course Enter and his friends aren't going to think "these people are mature and honestly want to help and show me how to improve."

It's pretty hypocritical and isn't proving any self-righteous point anyone's hoping to give. It's spergy and I'm not gonna participate in it anymore.
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I'm trying to stay away from that, but I think it is perfectly fair to call him out on harassment.
 
Speaking of harassment, @Nayolfa do you side with Mr. Enter on that whole "Mr. Enter vs. Casey Alexander" thing on Twitter? Do you think he should apologize?

(sorry if double post)
 
Calling him out on his crappy behavior isn't bad, I'm totally cool with it. He also has a lot of pretty psycho fans who need to sit the fuck down and remember what they're fuming about, because it's incredibly ridiculous in how livid or obsessive they get over any little difference of opinion over him or his show. I think Enter has way too high of an opinion of himself and his rabid fans don't help, I just mean grade-z 'trolling' of doing nothing but poking him with a stick and laughing isn't proving anything except you don't like him. He's already biased that if you don't agree with him or like him, you must be a troll.

He's a lolcow, no doubt about it, but there's no reason to treat this like we have to corner him and make as many accounts as possible for him to ban - we can easily just continue pointing out his mountain of flaws here, both of his own attitude and his show, and discuss it rationally without resorting to just going "yeah he's pretty much a faget I'm gonna spam his account some more." By all means go for it, I don't care, but that's not proving any sort of points anyone wants to make. I'm just here to analyze why I don't like his show or his reviews. He already chimps out knowing we're still here sharing actual opinions on how his show is not going to take off, without being hateful, despite his opinionated beliefs against all our 'cyberbullying.'
 
McRascal said:
No hard feelings to anyone, I just mean I got into reviewing Enter's own reviews or some of his episodes to give an outsider's opinion as for where improvement could be placed, I just don't think bugging him and everyone he knows, even the rabid fanboys, is gonna amount to much if any of us want to prove a legitimate point.
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You do have a good and valid point.

I guess I just don't feel like I'm up to the task of providing constructive criticism for him and his cartoon idea. I'm just a twentysomething with issues of my own. I feel like I'm slowly walking the path to recovery, and I'm not just talking about from Enter and his ilk.
 
McRascal said:
Calling him out on his crappy behavior isn't bad, I'm totally cool with it. He also has a lot of pretty psycho fans who need to sit the fuck down and remember what they're fuming about, because it's incredibly ridiculous in how livid or obsessive they get over any little difference of opinion over him or his show. I think Enter has way too high of an opinion of himself and his rabid fans don't help, I just mean grade-z 'trolling' of doing nothing but poking him with a stick and laughing isn't proving anything except you don't like him. He's already biased that if you don't agree with him or like him, you must be a troll.

He's a lolcow, no doubt about it, but there's no reason to treat this like we have to corner him and make as many accounts as possible for him to ban - we can easily just continue pointing out his mountain of flaws here, both of his own attitude and his show, and discuss it rationally without resorting to just going "yeah he's pretty much a faget I'm gonna spam his account some more." By all means go for it, I don't care, but that's not proving any sort of points anyone wants to make. I'm just here to analyze why I don't like his show or his reviews. He already chimps out knowing we're still here sharing actual opinions on how his show is not going to take off, without being hateful, despite his opinionated beliefs against all our 'cyberbullying.'
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I agree. Plus, if we were cyberbullying we'd be cursing him out and telling him to kill himself, etc. Which we're not.
 
Nayolfa said:
Lol, no one kicked you here.
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Why the fuck are you still here? You need to take some healthy advice and go get your ass some therapy - and I suggest you do that before getting back to work on whatever the hell you call that rough draft of yours...
 
Nayolfa said:
The only one I discredit is "RESTART EVERYTHING IT SUCKS"

I'm making this cartoon as practice. So any plans I have with the pilot are final. Anything past that can be completely changed.
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But what's wrong with restarting everything because it sucks? What's wrong with taking something that's terrible and making it better? There's people who scrapped projects only to start them over again and it ends up being a lot better than the original product.

Instead of creating this cartoon as practice...why don't you focus on creating shorts instead? Try creating cartoons that can be told in two-three minutes. Do short one-two second animations. Or, actually study animation and the process behind it. Take a class in storyboarding, take a class in animation (like a beginner's course to teach the foundations). Richard Williams's Animator's Survival Kit is my survival kit, lol. It's an AWESOME book that's filled with great references and advice on how to tackle animation (even though I feel like it's too advance for beginners, haha). There's plenty of other books that are good for beginners as well and I can link them if you want.

Go even further and study classic, old animation. See how it was done back then. There's a ton of great animation from the 20s-50s. Talk to animators, storyboard/layout artist, etc, who are currently working on in the field right now.

That way, when you get back into Growing Around, you'll know what to do. You'll understand and appreciate the process behind animation better.
 
Nayolfa said:
Can you elaborate on what this is? I've never heard of it? In truth I'm not much of a follower of MrEnter.
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Sometime in 2014, during a review of a SpongeBob episode, Mr. Enter posted a screencap of a group of tweets made by Casey. It featured him saying positive things about a SpongeBob episode that Mr. Enter hated. Mr. Enter insulted him, and his fans took to Twitter to harass Casey, some even giving borderline death threats*. Mr. Enter never told his fans to stop, and never apologized to Casey.

*= Such as in this tweet:
played for laughs, but can still be considered as such.
 
tsumiki said:
But what's wrong with restarting everything because it sucks? What's wrong with taking something that's terrible and making it better? There's people who scrapped projects only to start them over again and it ends up being a lot better than the original product.

Instead of creating this cartoon as practice...why don't you focus on creating shorts instead? Try creating cartoons that can be told in two-three minutes. Do short one-two second animations. Or, actually study animation and the process behind it. Take a class in storyboarding, take a class in animation (like a beginner's course to teach the foundations). Richard Williams's Animator's Survival Kit is my survival kit, lol. It's an AWESOME book that's filled with great references and advice on how to tackle animation (even though I feel like it's too advance for beginners, haha). There's plenty of other books that are good for beginners as well and I can link them if you want.

Go even further and study classic, old animation. See how it was done back then. There's a ton of great animation from the 20s-50s. Talk to animators, storyboard/layout artist, etc, who are currently working on in the field right now.

That way, when you get back into Growing Around, you'll know what to do. You'll understand and appreciate the process behind animation better.
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omfg you're awesome
 
KFC said:
Sometime in 2014, during a review of a SpongeBob episode, Mr. Enter posted a screencap of a group of tweets made by Casey. It featured him saying positive things about a SpongeBob episode that Mr. Enter hated. Mr. Enter insulted him, and his fans took to Twitter to harass Casey, some even giving borderline death threats*. Mr. Enter never told his fans to stop, and never apologized to Casey.

*= Such as in this tweet: [MEDIA=twitter]444604561685102594[/MEDIA]
played for laughs, but can still be considered as such.
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He did apologize for that. It's on his Dailymotion "Pet Sitter Pat" review. It's on Dailymotion because Youtube copywright bullshit.
 
tsumiki said:
But what's wrong with restarting everything because it sucks? What's wrong with taking something that's terrible and making it better? There's people who scrapped projects only to start them over again and it ends up being a lot better than the original product.

Instead of creating this cartoon as practice...why don't you focus on creating shorts instead? Try creating cartoons that can be told in two-three minutes. Do short one-two second animations. Or, actually study animation and the process behind it. Take a class in storyboarding, take a class in animation (like a beginner's course to teach the foundations). Richard Williams's Animator's Survival Kit is my survival kit, lol. It's an AWESOME book that's filled with great references and advice on how to tackle animation (even though I feel like it's too advance for beginners, haha). There's plenty of other books that are good for beginners as well and I can link them if you want.

Go even further and study classic, old animation. See how it was done back then. There's a ton of great animation from the 20s-50s. Talk to animators, storyboard/layout artist, etc, who are currently working on in the field right now.

That way, when you get back into Growing Around, you'll know what to do. You'll understand and appreciate the process behind animation better.
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This is so true. Especially the part about studying golden age animation. Disney, WB, Fleischers, and Tom and Jerry are great for tools.


I heard the Preston Blair book is great too.
 
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