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100 Whole Bepis said:
Man, where is this "Growing Around has potential" attitude coming from? It doesn't. It really doesn't.

The entire concept is trite and dated, pretty much stolen from an already failed pilot. This is the kind of show that might have had some footing in the late 90's or early 2000's, but now? Every single plot point has been done to death in pretty much every other cartoon ever. And much better in those shows, too. It doesn't have a single original bone in its body and is totally adverse to taking any sort of risk. MrEnter's idea of a "risk" is "oh look the stock picture day plot DIDN'T end with a terrible picture! LOL!". When he could just, you know, use an original idea for once instead of shamelessly riding on old, stale plot tropes.

Now, good characters can save a bad story in my opinion, but these characters are terrible. They're whiny, annoying, useless, and do everything they can to screw each other over. When he tries to write some kind of pathos into the show with these unlikable little bastards it comes across as horribly forced. Bastards can be funny, mind, but when the creator of this series is best known for ranting and raving about unlikable characters, it comes off as horribly hypocritical. Not that these bastards are well-executed in the least, though.

The only thing that can save this show is for it to be rewritten from the ground up. Maybe, MAYBE the basic concept can be saved if the characters were entirely rehauled. But even that's optimistic. The cartoon scene isn't what it used to be, especially on CN where he wants to pitch this.
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I agree with you 100% here. This show is dead on arrival, as if it even reached there.
 
100 Whole Bepis said:
Man, where is this "Growing Around has potential" attitude coming from? It doesn't. It really doesn't.

The entire concept is trite and dated, pretty much stolen from an already failed pilot. This is the kind of show that might have had some footing in the late 90's or early 2000's, but now? Every single plot point has been done to death in pretty much every other cartoon ever. And much better in those shows, too. It doesn't have a single original bone in its body and is totally adverse to taking any sort of risk. MrEnter's idea of a "risk" is "oh look the stock picture day plot DIDN'T end with a terrible picture! LOL!". When he could just, you know, use an original idea for once instead of shamelessly riding on old, stale plot tropes.

Now, good characters can save a bad story in my opinion, but these characters are terrible. They're whiny, annoying, useless, and do everything they can to screw each other over. When he tries to write some kind of pathos into the show with these unlikable little bastards it comes across as horribly forced. Bastards can be funny, mind, but when the creator of this series is best known for ranting and raving about unlikable characters, it comes off as horribly hypocritical. Not that these bastards are well-executed in the least, though.

The only thing that can save this show is for it to be rewritten from the ground up. Maybe, MAYBE the basic concept can be saved if the characters were entirely rehauled. But even that's optimistic. The cartoon scene isn't what it used to be, especially on CN where he wants to pitch this.
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Very valid point Bepis. I mean, the idea can be redeemed if it was tweaked heavily with more deeper characters, interactions, complex plots and whatnot, but given with Enter's stubborness and ego, one must know that the pilot will just...bomb.
 
100 Whole Bepis said:
Man, where is this "Growing Around has potential" attitude coming from? It doesn't. It really doesn't.

The entire concept is trite and dated, pretty much stolen from an already failed pilot. This is the kind of show that might have had some footing in the late 90's or early 2000's, but now? Every single plot point has been done to death in pretty much every other cartoon ever. And much better in those shows, too. It doesn't have a single original bone in its body and is totally adverse to taking any sort of risk. MrEnter's idea of a "risk" is "oh look the stock picture day plot DIDN'T end with a terrible picture! LOL!". When he could just, you know, use an original idea for once instead of shamelessly riding on old, stale plot tropes.

Now, good characters can save a bad story in my opinion, but these characters are terrible. They're whiny, annoying, useless, and do everything they can to screw each other over. When he tries to write some kind of pathos into the show with these unlikable little bastards it comes across as horribly forced. Bastards can be funny, mind, but when the creator of this series is best known for ranting and raving about unlikable characters, it comes off as horribly hypocritical. Not that these bastards are well-executed in the least, though.

The only thing that can save this show is for it to be rewritten from the ground up. Maybe, MAYBE the basic concept can be saved if the characters were entirely rehauled. But even that's optimistic. The cartoon scene isn't what it used to be, especially on CN where he wants to pitch this.
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I have a really weird feeling that somehow it will make it on CN as a pilot. If Youtube personalities can have their own shows, I think at this point anyone can. With the trash CN airs nowadays, it would fit right in.
 
Blindrainbow said:
Well you see Lauren Faust knew what she was doing from experience having worked on a number of animated movies and tv shows before hand and plus her husband had made two shows as well, so she knew what to do with pitching unlike mr enter who comes off as knowing next to nothing about this sort of thing. No channel will take a cartoon pitch from no body who never work in animation before like mr.enter
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Actually, truth be told the show she was at Hasbro to pitch that day was not ponies, but her own IP called "Galaxy Girls." She had the series bible and everything laid out.

Hasbro said no.

And then somebody realized the animation goddess that had just strode into their offices and handed Faust one of those god awful G3.5 (all this is from Faust's retelling btw) MLP movies and asked if she could reinvent the series. They were damn lucky Faust had been big with MLP in her childhood and agreed to do it.

Also off tropic, really they doing that with transformers that a pity I quite like prime and the new one sounded interest but that just sucks their burning it off.
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I should clarify: you're fucked over if you want to watch the new series on CN...if you live in the United States. Literally the entire rest of the planet is getting their versions before the States.

See, here's the thing: Hasbro doesn't give two shits about their conventional market anymore. AoE? Absolutely tanked at the box office when you consider its net profit over DOTM's performance domestically was in the negatives despite the larger budget. But in China, which was heavily pandered to? Near double the take of DOTM had there and AoE's total revenue had 1/3rd of it alone from from mainly Asia.

That's where Hasbro's focus is these days: the easily mined cache of the Eastern Hemisphere. Prime's failure (the toyline did not break even from what I know) coupled with the predictably dismal performance of the supposedly all-powerful movie juggernaut (AoE's toyline even was intentionally expected to fail as much...and it didn't even meet those low expectations) means Hasbro isn't going to try to go back to what worked in the media back in 2009 when they were on the cusp of a second Transformers golden age, they're just going to try and maintain the current stuff but primarily focus its distribution elsewhere because that's the cheaper option.

Benis said:
I have a really weird feeling that somehow it will make it on CN as a pilot. If Youtube personalities can have their own shows, I think at this point anyone can. With the trash CN airs nowadays, it would fit right in.
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Back-to-Back with Uncle Grandpa, probably. God I miss old CN when they actually had shows with inteligence written into the scripts such that the only Dexter episode they couldn't air is the secret, profanity-laden gag episode ("Suck my science cock, Dee Dee!")
 
100 Whole Bepis said:
Man, where is this "Growing Around has potential" attitude coming from? It doesn't. It really doesn't.

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I do think Growing Around has a tiny bit of potential, but definitely not in its' current state. I think the problem is Mr Enter himself, because I bet the creative direction would overall improve without him working on it.
 
Optimus Prime said:
Actually, truth be told the show she was at Hasbro to pitch that day was not ponies, but her own IP called "Galaxy Girls." She had the series bible and everything laid out.

Hasbro said no.

And then somebody realized the animation goddess that had just strode into their offices and handed Faust one of those god awful G3.5 (all this is from Faust's retelling btw) MLP movies and asked if she could reinvent the series. They were damn lucky Faust had been big with MLP in her childhood and agreed to do it.
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I am well aware that she was there to pitch the galaxy Girl which is something she been working to make for long time now back when Pluto was planet, but it still stands for FiM she had a series bible she posted some bits of it on her Deviantart page I believe so even when hire for what really was made to be a 25 minute ad for toys a proper bible and development is still need.

Optimus Prime said:
I should clarify: you're fucked over if you want to watch the new series on CN...if you live in the United States. Literally the entire rest of the planet is getting their versionsbefore the States.
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Ehh I don't trust cartoon netword with any trasnformer cartoon at all after what happen with animated.
 
I don't why everyone seems so optimistic that CN would even look at this... It's some jerk on YouTube and DeviantArt - who would listen to someone like that who badmouths their (CN's) shows in the first place? Who in CN would even work with this guy?! Everyone there would be trying to get him fired ASAP just to be rid of him!
 
Shokew said:
I don't why everyone seems so optimistic that CN would even look at this... It's some jerk on YouTube and DeviantArt - who would listen to someone like that who badmouths their (CN's) shows in the first place? Who in CN would even work with this guy?! Everyone there would be trying to get him fired ASAP just to be rid of him!
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Well no way would Cartoon Network entertain the idea at all, and after the whole thing with casey alexander who works there I would think people wouldn't at all want to work with enter.
 
Blindrainbow said:
Well no way would Cartoon Network entertain the idea at all, and after the whole thing with casey alexander who works there I would think people wouldn't at all want to work with enter.
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Casey Alexander isn't a bad person - he just needs to learn to write better, IMHO. I don't know what that idea of better is, but I don't care - En-tard should lay off, if he wants to get hired anywhere at this point. I know I wouldn't hire him if he badmouthed anything my company made (and I don't own no company; I'm just telling the COLD. HARD. TRUTH.).
 
100 Whole Bepis said:
Man, where is this "Growing Around has potential" attitude coming from? It doesn't. It really doesn't.

The entire concept is trite and dated, pretty much stolen from an already failed pilot. This is the kind of show that might have had some footing in the late 90's or early 2000's, but now? Every single plot point has been done to death in pretty much every other cartoon ever. And much better in those shows, too. It doesn't have a single original bone in its body and is totally adverse to taking any sort of risk. MrEnter's idea of a "risk" is "oh look the stock picture day plot DIDN'T end with a terrible picture! LOL!". When he could just, you know, use an original idea for once instead of shamelessly riding on old, stale plot tropes.

Now, good characters can save a bad story in my opinion, but these characters are terrible. They're whiny, annoying, useless, and do everything they can to screw each other over. When he tries to write some kind of pathos into the show with these unlikable little bastards it comes across as horribly forced. Bastards can be funny, mind, but when the creator of this series is best known for ranting and raving about unlikable characters, it comes off as horribly hypocritical. Not that these bastards are well-executed in the least, though.

The only thing that can save this show is for it to be rewritten from the ground up. Maybe, MAYBE the basic concept can be saved if the characters were entirely rehauled. But even that's optimistic. The cartoon scene isn't what it used to be, especially on CN where he wants to pitch this.
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I think it has the potential to be a fun little webtoon, but nothing ground breaking.
 
MrEnter's so unoriginal, he's ripping off of animu characters.
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100 Whole Bepis said:
Man, where is this "Growing Around has potential" attitude coming from? It doesn't. It really doesn't.

The entire concept is trite and dated, pretty much stolen from an already failed pilot. This is the kind of show that might have had some footing in the late 90's or early 2000's, but now? Every single plot point has been done to death in pretty much every other cartoon ever. And much better in those shows, too. It doesn't have a single original bone in its body and is totally adverse to taking any sort of risk. MrEnter's idea of a "risk" is "oh look the stock picture day plot DIDN'T end with a terrible picture! LOL!". When he could just, you know, use an original idea for once instead of shamelessly riding on old, stale plot tropes.

Now, good characters can save a bad story in my opinion, but these characters are terrible. They're whiny, annoying, useless, and do everything they can to screw each other over. When he tries to write some kind of pathos into the show with these unlikable little bastards it comes across as horribly forced. Bastards can be funny, mind, but when the creator of this series is best known for ranting and raving about unlikable characters, it comes off as horribly hypocritical. Not that these bastards are well-executed in the least, though.

The only thing that can save this show is for it to be rewritten from the ground up. Maybe, MAYBE the basic concept can be saved if the characters were entirely rehauled. But even that's optimistic. The cartoon scene isn't what it used to be, especially on CN where he wants to pitch this.
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Okay, one minute into reading the picture day script, this actually sounds like something he'd be ranting on rather than reviewing. I do think the show could be good with a lot of effort and actual understanding of writing and creating a cartoon, but that's not going to happen with MrEnter. It's ironic that he wanted to take a failed idea and make it work, only to end up failing himself.
 
The Phantom on the Hill said:
I think it has the potential to be a fun little webtoon, but nothing ground breaking.
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100 Whole Bepis said:
You're right on this, though. Webtoon is about the best that this show can hope for. It's just MrEnter's ego that makes him think that this could fly on national television.
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Meowthkip said:
Pretty much. If Enter kept his expectations realistic, he could have a sizable following on the internet.
But he can't write and doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
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Agreed all around. But it's still gonna take years of work to make it look good, sound good, and animate well. Something En-Tard fails to continue to outright get. Even then, this'll be lucky to end up on a shithole like YouTube, looking no better than something deserving of hatred like Xin, or worse. All I know is that the next RWBY or mostly anything on CartoonHangover, this ain't, like En-Tard thinks...
 
Shokew said:
Agreed all around. But it's still gonna take years of work to make it look good, sound good, and animate well. Something En-Tard fails to continue to outright get. Even then, this'll be lucky to end up on a shithole like YouTube, looking no better than something deserving of hatred like Xin, or worse. All I know is that the next RWBY or mostly anything on CartoonHangover, this ain't, like En-Tard thinks...
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Yeah even on the web if want to look good it going to still take a long time just look at the up coming webtoon true tails, look pretty all right and made by people who haven't work in professional animation but even that took years before it was actually ready.
 
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