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What I referred to as the emotional core of the Princess Bride encompasses all these aspects of its particular charm. A large set of things that elevate it above a silly fairy tale movie.
That's way too sloppy a blowjob for something I'd call an ok movie, but to each zxheir own. If we're finna go "my oshii can beat up your oshii" for the entertainment of the fine feathered faggots in this thread, I'll pick Sidney Gottlieb as my shartiste spirit animal because no one did it like him.
 
That's way too sloppy a blowjob for something I'd call an ok movie, but to each zxheir own. If we're finna go "my oshii can beat up your oshii" for the entertainment of the fine feathered faggots in this thread, I'll pick Sidney Gottlieb as my shartiste spirit animal because no one did it like him.
Princess Bride was a book before it was a movie. The author, William Goldman, wrote the screen adaptation too. (He also won 2 Oscars for other screenplays). The framing device he uses in the book is different than the grandfather & grandson in the movie, but it has the same conceit, only telling the good parts of an old beloved book to the next generation.

The book is even funnier than the movie.
 
Princess Bride was a book before it was a movie. The author, William Goldman, wrote the screen adaptation too. (He also won 2 Oscars for other screenplays). The framing device he uses in the book is different than the grandfather & grandson in the movie, but it has the same conceit, only telling the good parts of an old beloved book to the next generation.

The book is even funnier than the movie.
I vaguely remembered there also being a book from some review I read years ago, but yeah, I only saw the movie so I can't really comment on the source material itself.
 
lol duh at not knowing it was a book.
post your romantasy Ben Ten fanfic already
Best I can do is a rape man-assy Lord of the Rings "fanfic" (it doesn't actually have anything to do with Lord of the Rings) I collaborated on (in the Nazi war crime sense) with noted dead(?) obese pissbottle-having homosexual retard @BrunoMattei a couple summers back.


We went 50/50 on it because he wanted to LARP as Burroughs and Kerouac writing that shitty Hippos book but the overall "plot", protagonist/"author's" name (it's supposedly an "autobiography" and he wanted to call it that), and title were my ideas. He just wrote a bunch of random murderrape (though I had to tell him to stop being such a bitch and make it more graphic because he was worried about "going too far") because I wanted it to be kinda sorta like a retarded schizophrenic trooned out American Psycho on nigger crack.

Also these are the original poems that were mutilated in the opening segments just in case anyone's masochistic enough to actually read this garbage.


 
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A few pages back I asked about comic writing. I've come across two challenges. The 5 hour comic challenge, and the 24 hour comic challenge. Both are the same concept. Make a 5-10 page comic in 5 hours. And make a 24 page comic in 24 hours.

I can't do a full, uninterupted 24 hour stint (even 5 hours is pushing it) but I'm thinking of trying one of these with a "non-consecutive" rule but keeping the spirit of the challenge.

I have a few outlines for "story", though 5-10 pages of decompressed story telling doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room. One small problem is the sketch pads I can find are all a5, with a4 paper only coming in massive reams that I have no use for. I can make do.
 
A few pages back I asked about comic writing. I've come across two challenges. The 5 hour comic challenge, and the 24 hour comic challenge. Both are the same concept. Make a 5-10 page comic in 5 hours. And make a 24 page comic in 24 hours.

I can't do a full, uninterupted 24 hour stint (even 5 hours is pushing it) but I'm thinking of trying one of these with a "non-consecutive" rule but keeping the spirit of the challenge.

I have a few outlines for "story", though 5-10 pages of decompressed story telling doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room. One small problem is the sketch pads I can find are all a5, with a4 paper only coming in massive reams that I have no use for. I can make do.
All the best with your comic project.

I've done some actual writing from last week onwards. I'm putting it on a blog service that I cannot link to because I'm worried about the admins booting me off their platform like ComicFury did a while ago when I tried their platform and talked about using it on another thread.

The main goal I have when writing now was to stop picking apart the prose as I'm writing it and to focus on putting down the ideas I like into words first and foremost. It's allowed to actually make progress and write things, so that's good. And it makes the editing process easier too when I have the full picture to weigh what fits in a passage and what doesn't.

So the recent advice in the thread mirrors the lesson I learned the hard way. It's entertaining to read the back and forths but I'd never want to end up in a debate against you guys. I'd probably get crushed like a puny ant, lol
 
The main goal I have when writing now was to stop picking apart the prose as I'm writing it and to focus on putting down the ideas I like into words first and foremost. It's allowed to actually make progress and write things, so that's good. And it makes the editing process easier too when I have the full picture to weigh what fits in a passage and what doesn't.
Yeah, thinking like this as gotten me over 21000 words into the book I'm writing. You just have to actually get words down on the page first and remember you are going to read through, and revise the thing, and make it better later.


So the recent advice in the thread mirrors the lesson I learned the hard way. It's entertaining to read the back and forths but I'd never want to end up in a debate against you guys. I'd probably get crushed like a puny ant, lol
I'd never want to end up in a debate with them because I'm not a stupid nigger and have better fucking shit to waste my time with lol.
 
So the recent advice in the thread mirrors the lesson I learned the hard way. It's entertaining to read the back and forths but I'd never want to end up in a debate against you guys. I'd probably get crushed like a puny ant, lol
You're taking it way too seriously. A lot of it is "old man yells at cloud" on my part but I'll still keep doing it if I feel like it because why even be on this site if you're afraid of being a douchebag. He was sorta kinda making a philological argument the likes of which you might find in Nietzsche's early works or whatever (intentionally or not, doesn't matter) in a pretentious way and it annoyed me even though I probably agree with at least half of what he was saying.

There's a specific theory of catharsis as it relates to ancient Greek theater/tragedy and various philosophers have talked about it for thousands of years but I'm too lazy to give you the specifics.
I'd never want to end up in a debate with them because I'm not a stupid nigger and have better fucking shit to waste my time with lol.
And yet you're still here with us so there's no unpozzing your're neghole, son.
 
my only question would be, of what use is this philosophizing and parsing esoteric knowledge into these frameworks and outlooks on reality and how we interact with it - if we don't apply the knowledge via work? (probably not the best term for it but i figure it works)

it guess it rounds back to my current view that actually exercising my brain by writing improves my skill in writing, than if i were to spend that time crafting essays in my own head about why using this plot structure or adopting this writing principle could make me the next bestselling author. action has to come before reaction / contemplation. - in any case i dont think ive made a new point by saying this, and perhaps you and cigint would spend your available time "agreeing with me" in different phrasings. i guess i cant see why that all matters so much and for that i am the fool.
 
my only question would be, of what use is this philosophizing and parsing esoteric knowledge into these frameworks and outlooks on reality and how we interact with it - if we don't apply the knowledge via work?
No use, of course. If someone in the thread gave the advice to never write anything, then that's ridiculous advice.

But supposing that you were to produce a work, then what use is philosophizing in that case? I won't say who said it, so as not to trigger people, but in effect the use of it is self-cultivation of mind. And then following from that, the reason to apply it to the work is that you will deliver to other people the fruits and benefits of that cultivation of mind in an entertaning and immersive package. Everyone enjoys and also it's a net benefit to humanity.
 
my only question would be, of what use is this philosophizing and parsing esoteric knowledge into these frameworks and outlooks on reality and how we interact with it - if we don't apply the knowledge via work? (probably not the best term for it but i figure it works)

it guess it rounds back to my current view that actually exercising my brain by writing improves my skill in writing, than if i were to spend that time crafting essays in my own head about why using this plot structure or adopting this writing principle could make me the next bestselling author. action has to come before reaction / contemplation. - in any case i dont think ive made a new point by saying this, and perhaps you and cigint would spend your available time "agreeing with me" in different phrasings. i guess i cant see why that all matters so much and for that i am the fool.
You're taking the same side I did in criticizing him for what could definitely be seen as masturbatory philosophizing as a form of torpor.

But to step away from that more grounded position and answer your question from a different perspective even though the answer will get further and further away from the subject of writing; there are thoughts and actions that don't need to serve any practical, material, or spiritual purpose to perpetuate themselves and even consciously making an effort to know less than everyone else and be as retarded as possible is a Path unto itself. If you really dive far enough into any one pursuit or thought no matter how or why, you end up reaching the same void everyone else who went there before you did. What starts out as a tangible goal slowly turns into an all-consuming obsession before burning out and leading to a kind of out of body experience. Then you stop caring about a lot of things you thought were important when you were just starting out and had more comprehensible goals in mind and just keep doing what you were doing for no real reason in particular. Whether this is development or regression isn't for me to say, but it's an end that negates the ostensible purpose of whatever means you used to reach it and there's no real way back from it even though you haven't really gone anywhere at all.

You could call this insanity, or retardation, or whatever, but it's where everyone eventually ends up if they go all the way past anywhere they ought to have gone in single-mindedly chasing any sort of vision. It just happens whether you want it to or not.
 
Write a story that has these people as side characters you see once in a while:
Urban Whalers, a loose group of a few hundred people living and operating in [insert city]. Their main activities involve hunting, gutting and selling the fat reserves of extremely obese people.
 
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I started enjoying writing again. Especially when I have to write for my college classes, I find the most offensive topic, if humanly possible and still somehow get a 's.
 
Write a story that has these people as side characters you see once in a while:
Urban Whalers, a loose group of a few hundred people living and operating in [insert city]. Their main activities involve hunting, gutting and selling the fat reserves of extremely obese people.
This feels like something that a very well know scifi writer might enjoy, so long as those obese people are buhlack...
 
Has anyone noticed the majority of recent stories being told/made in all kinds of media feel empty? I don't know if that's the right word to use for it but compared to older games, they feel disappointing.

I'm not going to go on a whole thing about 'muh nostalgia, muh old media always good'. There are some old media with shitty writing. The main point is that in my opinion I felt something after finishing/watching the story of something more older while for something made more recently, I kind of forget about it.
 
Has anyone noticed the majority of recent stories being told/made in all kinds of media feel empty? I don't know if that's the right word to use for it but compared to older games, they feel disappointing.

I'm not going to go on a whole thing about 'muh nostalgia, muh old media always good'. There are some old media with shitty writing. The main point is that in my opinion I felt something after finishing/watching the story of something more older while for something made more recently, I kind of forget about it.
To paraphrase Faulkner, a lot of writers nowadays are writing not of love but of lust, so it's literary junk food.
 
I've been writing recently so I felt like talking about it. I've had a story in mind, a nice comfy scifi story with some fantasy mixed in. I'll just go ahead and compare it to DUNE in terms of setting. I'm at almost 90K words at this point, and it's going great, so I had a few thoughts about writing methods.

I'd been doing outlines and such for probably five years or more. I even started writing it, got around 20K words into it, and scrapped the entire thing as totally unworkable. Long story short, I miscalculated how to write a beginning. It was both trite and weird. To make an analogy, I was on track to write an entire book about Luke on the moisture farm trying to figure out how to turn his lightsaber on. It sucked! Fortunately I didn't give up and my 2nd attempt is going much better.

Here's my current method for overcoming writer's block and my general laziness: I have a set of strict rules, designed to fight procrastination. They sound a bit autistic, but they work for me. The goal is to get as much work done, as quickly as possible. I came up with this around new years.

Rule 1:
I have to write 1000 words minimum per day no matter what. Taking days off is out of the question, no weekends. I picked 1000 words because it's not too much, but not too little. It's a couple hours per day, and I want to form the habit of writing every day.

Rule 2:
If I do miss a day due to something unavoidable, I must make it up by increasing the minimum word count for the next few days. Say 1500 minimum for the next two days. Missing days is inevitable, so there has to be a plan to make it up. (I haven't actually missed any days yet lol)

Rule 3:
I cannot pre-write my 1000 words if I think I might miss a day later. The point is to get shit done, and I know I'd be scrounging for an excuse to skip a day if I allowed this. I must always be in word-debt when I wake up in the morning. It's psychological.

Rule 4:
If I reach 1000 words and am on a roll, I don't stop until I run out of steam. 1000 words isn't even that much, it's less than 2 pages. I am a lazy fucker, and my first instinct would be to "save" some work for later, so I have to have a rule against it. This also ties in nicely with rule 3. It doesn't matter if I wrote 3000 words yesterday, I'm still in word-debt today, I still owe 1000 words to the word goblin or else my kneecaps are getting broken.

Rule 5:
I keep a log of my progress. For each day, I record the current word count ( 88,185 ), how many days I've been doing this ( 67 ), and a few other metrics. I need this for motivation, it's like a score card. I like watching number go up.

I learned a few things doing this. I thought I was a planner-type, but after actually writing, I didn't end up using my outline the way I thought I would. With characters finally placed in the situations I set up, I found that I couldn't get them to resolve the situations the way I planned. There was a huge deviation between having a plot point on an outline, and actually doing the work of making it real. In a sense, the characters would chose to do something different, and usually better, than what I was thinking. That's because the version of me writing the outline only had a basic understanding of the situation. The story also grew, with whole chapters that were nowhere on the outline, events that were totally unforeseen consequences of what was going on. I also thought some things would be small and unimportant that turned out to be huge. A minor note like "Then the characters go from A to B" turns into an epic journey way more easily than I realized. Not that I'm complaining.

I also learned that I can't worry about prose on the first draft. It's too inefficient to sit there trying to think of the prefect turn of phrase when I've got 1000 words to get down. I'm often writing in a utilitarian way to keep my pace up. If reading a book can be slow, try writing it. It's slow enough as is, anything I can do to pick up the pace, I do it. I'll edit it later.

I also learned to throw away good ideas if they weren't fitting in. Some of the scenes which were the whole reason for making this story have ended up in the trash. That was part of the problem with my first attempt, I stuck too closely to certain "cool" scenes.

I also became more aware of how much time I'm fucking wasting on the average day, because now that I've started doing this, I can't even watch a two hour YT video without getting antsy about how much shit I'm not getting done.

I also learned that I can't really judge how long of a book I'm writing. I used to laugh at authors for taking 8 books to write 3 books, but I get it now. I thought the book I'm writing would be maybe 50K words. I'm now at 88K and I'm...half way through? Maybe a third? Who knows!

In conclusion, I now have more sympathy for poor old George RR Martin than I once did. This shit is complicated. I'm just writing it for myself, but if I do get it done and publish it, that would be cool too. I don't want my cringe Kiwi Farms posts tied to it though, naturally.
 
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