The Witcher Game Series

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Geralt helped Ciri become a moral and pragmatic person, which is necessary for the empire that at this point, rules most of the known world outside of Skellige.
Yeah, doing things the Nilfgaardian way in the Northern Realms just means the entire thing turns into one giant popular uprising that makes the Scoia'tael look like a few mosquitos in a swamp. The only reason Nilfgaard had been able to move so far and so fast this time was because they had Letho and his fellow Vipers assassinate everyone's leadership save Radovid ahead of time, leaving Redania as the only relatively stable nation. The last few times they tried the kings were all able to put aside most of their differences and rely upon Nilfgaard being Nilfgaard to rally public support for a mass mobilization. As bad as things might be in the Northern Realms at times, at least you're not a slave nor are your children born into slavery.
 
Yeah, doing things the Nilfgaardian way in the Northern Realms just means the entire thing turns into one giant popular uprising that makes the Scoia'tael look like a few mosquitos in a swamp. The only reason Nilfgaard had been able to move so far and so fast this time was because they had Letho and his fellow Vipers assassinate everyone's leadership save Radovid ahead of time, leaving Redania as the only relatively stable nation. The last few times they tried the kings were all able to put aside most of their differences and rely upon Nilfgaard being Nilfgaard to rally public support for a mass mobilization. As bad as things might be in the Northern Realms at times, at least you're not a slave nor are your children born into slavery.
Depends. The North can get very fucked, especially in the games. I'm sure all the mages, dwarves, and elves getting burnt at the stake would've preferred submission over extinction.
 
Depends. The North can get very fucked, especially in the games. I'm sure all the mages, dwarves, and elves getting burnt at the stake would've preferred submission over extinction.
The elves are getting fucked either way. During the books Emhyr was providing support to the Socia'tael to put the Northern Realms off-balance and as part of the peace agreement signed at the end of that war he was forced to withdraw all aid and protection, leaving them high, dry, and ready for the gallows.
 
The elves are getting fucked either way. During the books Emhyr was providing support to the Socia'tael to put the Northern Realms off-balance and as part of the peace agreement signed at the end of that war he was forced to withdraw all aid and protection, leaving them high, dry, and ready for the gallows.
Nilfgaard under Ciri would be good for the Elves. And the most I saw of Emhyr treating the Elves was him barely giving a shit, which is an upgrade from the North setting them on fire or treating them like shit.
 
Nilfgaard under Ciri would be good for the Elves. And the most I saw of Emhyr treating the Elves was him barely giving a shit, which is an upgrade from the North setting them on fire or treating them like shit.
Well, the elves have been well... the Socia'tael aren't exactly nice people, and incredibly persistent when it comes to desiring violence as a means to an end. The Socia'tael are technically open to all non-humans but the halflings, gnomes, and dwarves have generally accepted their circumstances and done their best to assimilate, and as a result have the fewest problems and thus desire to chimp out that the elves do for some odd reason.

Which is really fucking hilarious because not long after the humans showed up and started causing problems the older and wiser of the elves went "Holy shit, we don't have the numbers and never will have the numbers to contest them due to reproductive differences", but one young genius who thought he knew better decided to rally every young, able-bodied, and fertile elf he could and challenged the humans to a single, epic, decisive battle. The battle itself was a bloodbath that resulted in no immediate victory for either side but long-term it resulted in the elves getting demographically fucked even worse, much like how Russia never really managed to unfuck itself after WW2, or France after the Napoleonic Wars. Their problems are all entirely of their own making, so I don't really have any sympathy for them.


EDIT: I'd like to point out that the Witcher books are an inversion of the usual fantasy trope of "woe is us, our heroes and legends are long past, and it sucks ass because things are shit now". Things are not shit for mankind, but the best they've been to the point that until we started killing each other en masse the monsters had been controlled and contained to the point a large portion of Geralt's poverty was just a lack of work monster slaying. Whenever a forktail would pick off a farmer's sheep the lord would just pay the dude off since it was cheaper and easier than sending guys out into the hills to kill it, and besides, his daughter thought that forktail was pretty. Trolls are left alone because their bridge tolls are cheaper than what lords ask, and they keep their houses in better condition than a lord keeps his bridges in.

Hell, towards the end of the books a dwarf laughs at the humans chasing after every centuries-old elven relic blade (actually made by the dwarves naturally, the elves just making the fancy bits like the handguard) and just hands him his own sword, fresh from the Mahakam forges, and boasts to Geralt of the greatness of modern technology. Said blade, when backed by a witcher's enhanced strengh, slices clean through chain mail like it wasn't there.

So yeah, we're on top, the fucking kings, and the non-humans either need to adapt and learn (like the dwarves, who wind up running the banks in Novigrad, a city dominated by the infamously anti-nonhuman Church of the Eternal Fire), or just be a bunch of treeniggers like the elves and eventually go extinct. That said there are plenty of various city elves, and while Geralt thinks they're weird because they dress in a mishmash of human and elven styles and drink herbal tea instead of booze, they're largely tolerated by the humans because they don't cause trouble.
 
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Alright fellow witchers, do we kill the Hillcrook entity as the sisters want or do we release it?
Do we save them kids, or do we believe the book She Who Knows?
 
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