The Paranormal

[FedPostalService]

The Romans got very lucky with some decisive battles, and even they failed when it came to the Scots.

There were no Scots or Scotland back then. Like there were no English yet. This is a weird Scottish nationalist myth that twists history to try and hide how shit actual Scottish history is.

 

[Male Idiot]

England's armed forces were in such hot-demand that when they weren't invading France, they were being paid by your kings because English soldiers were tougher than anyone in Hungary.

Sauce please? I mostly know of Silezian mercs and germanic ones.

It could be true, but it would have beeb a fair bit of travel time to get archers.

https://szotar.sztaki.hu/search?searchWord=eccentric&fromlang=&tolang=&outLanguage=hun

There are many words, some have different meanings.

Furcsa is strange. Slightly negative. Weirdo would also work.

Szertelen is more absent minded.

Szeszélyes is more unpredictable. Mostly negative, but can indicate something else too, like a maniac with a whimsical nature.

Bogaras, literally "has bugs" indicates someone with strange obsessions, but this a more neutral word. You could think of it as odd.

Hóbortos is the closest translation, as it implies strange but harmless or positive habits. You could think of it as eccentric.

The last two words, like peculiar vs eccentric are mostly good for literary tools, as 95% of people would use it interchangably.

Hungarian is also famous for having dozens of words for different types of sprinting, running, pacing, walking, striding, waddling with each giving an approximation to the walker's state of speedy, well being and mood. Very useful for writers, much less for regular folks.

The word exists in German too, and I think it is too autistic to think this was some hail mary british superpower. Tesla was a known eccentric, and he was surely not Bri*ish, neither was Einstein.

Maybe an argument could be made for non europeans, but this is a bit of a stretch.

 

[Doctor Love]

Tesla was a known eccentric

Tesla is the perfect example. But he was not treated well, at all - he was much more of an outcast. Meanwhile, Isaac Newton's biggest achievement, in his own words, was his celibacy. He was extremely weird, but apparently had so much female attention that he found it harder than gravity to stay a virgin.

It's not "tolerated" in the same way - Hobortos could work, but Boris Johnson's entire popularity was built on eccentric behaviour. It's seen as respectable for someone to be a rich eccentric - more so than a rich "normie"

And it was apparently the White Company, under the rule of Louis I, during his invasions of Italy. English longbows were like, twice the size of everyone else's - even Olympic sporting bows, 700 years later, are comparatively tiny. They launched a big fuckin' arrow at 200km/h - literally nobody else had that capability since nobody else was retarded enough to make a fucking longbow that was 2 meters long.

 

[FedPostalService]

And it was apparently the White Company, under the rule of Louis I, during his invasions of Italy. English longbows were like, twice the size of everyone else's - even Olympic sporting bows, 700 years later, are comparatively tiny. They launched a big fuckin' arrow at 200km/h - literally nobody else had that capability since nobody else was retarded enough to make a fucking longbow that was 2 meters long.

Isn’t the Italian word “bistecca” from English condottiero wandering around shouting for “beef steak”?

 

[skykiii]

Yes, you are. Whatever the word is, does not reflect the equivalent societal view.

Or you just haven't found the word that does. I've heard enough about Japan to know that they do at least have what we would call "eccentrics." They also have a concept called Chuunibyou which isn't exactly the same thing but is clearly a conceptual relative, and Don Quixote is a poster child for it.

Simply put this is all reading to me like a James Clavell-esque need to make them sound like aliens. Which they're not. Some things are perceived differently, but humans are humans all across the world.

I apologize if this change in topic might annoy some people but what does everyone think about LoA and the implications and practice behind it?

Protip... if you're gonna ask about a thing, don't introduce it with a fucking acronym. That's why you got people being like "what even is that?"

In my case I read a bit of your description before realizing "Oh, he's talking about Laws of Attraction."

It reminds me of when my niece asked "what do you think of BNHA?" and I was like, "What the fuck is BNHA?" Then she concluded I had never seen it... then it turned out she was asking about a shitty anime (Boku no Hero Academia) which in fact I had seen, but not immediately recognized because she asked in a retarded way.

 

[Overly Serious]

I beg to differ, I think it's commonly found in other countries.

What about France, Germany, Russia or Japan?

The particularly well-travelled father of a friend told me that of all the countries and cultures he had been to, the Japanese were the most like the English. So perhaps they have an equivalent and for the same reason - the very indirect and sophisticated pressure to social conformity and the need to manage that. But to refute DL's point it isn't whether such things occur but whether there is a word for it. I know of no such word in another language and until someone can give one that means what eccentric means, train boy's point stands.

Maybe the Hungarian Hóbortos if that's really what it means. But the other examples, specifically don't match the definition which is what I was getting at. Just typing the word into a search engine and finding synonyms for "strange" doesn't work. You need an actual bilingual person with good familiarity with actual lived English.

 

[Doctor Love]

Or you just haven't found the word that does.

It's like trying to find the equivalent word for "King" when nobody else has a monarchy. You can approximate, but the actual concept is unique.

It's substitutions for a role which generally doesn't seem to exist - if you aren't British, it's hard to explain the difference without citing examples. If you say that your roommate is weird, then this implies they may be dangerous and that it is an unpleasant experience.

Eccentric is usually used as a positive description - it's a perfectly legitimate way to live your life. If you said that there was a weird man who lived under a bridge, you would expect him to be dirty, and for used needles to cover the area.

If you said an eccentric man was living under the bridge, you'd expect it to be carpeted with a front door, dining room and functioning garage.

DL's

I've been shortened to two letters.

 

[Male Idiot]

Tesla was treated badly because he was competition. It wasn't the great grandparents of Null's neighbours throwing bell peppers and cheese wheels at him.

I can give a definition. An eccentric is a man with unusual but not nefarious habits that may appear strange or unknowable to regular people.

But so can dictionaries.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/eccentric

King is also not a unique british concept. Neither is the tube, the telly, the loicense. I mean there was a whole Austrian-Hungarian Monarchy. Monarchy isn't a british invention.

You can argue that eccentrics are treated more harshly outside Europe and the Muttosphere it made.

This is getting to the levels of Hungarians invented Paprika, and nobody outside of Hungary can conceive or understand this lovecraftian spice.

 

[Overly Serious]

You can argue that eccentrics are treated more harshly outside Europe and the Muttosphere it made.

Which wouldn't affect the argument because the question would be what other languages have a word that specifically means different but don't censure them for being so. I went into this in enough detail earlier and feel I've made my point well enough once. So I'm done on this tangent as anything else is either repeating myself or being forced to say the same thing in a less good way.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

It's like trying to find the equivalent word for "King" when nobody else has a monarchy. You can approximate, but the actual concept is unique.

It's substitutions for a role which generally doesn't seem to exist - if you aren't British, it's hard to explain the difference without citing examples. If you say that your roommate is weird, then this implies they may be dangerous and that it is an unpleasant experience.

Eccentric is usually used as a positive description - it's a perfectly legitimate way to live your life. If you said that there was a weird man who lived under a bridge, you would expect him to be dirty, and for used needles to cover the area.

If you said an eccentric man was living under the bridge, you'd expect it to be carpeted with a front door, dining room and functioning garage.


I've been shortened to two letters.

eccentric exists in spanish too and i always though it was the softer and more polite way to call a weirdo a weirdo. Obviously rich people get their asses kissed and more benefit of the doubt for their behaviour, if the employee spergs out he is an autist creep, if the bosses son does it he is just a bit eccentric.

 

[Doctor Love]

You can argue that eccentrics are treated more harshly outside Europe and the Muttosphere it made.

That's the point - if an eccentric is treated harshly, it's not an eccentric. That would be a "weirdo" or an "outcast" - eccentrics have a strong social standing. For example - Eddie Hall's bizarre behaviour, like driving a deactivated armoured personnel carrier.

if the employee spergs out he is an autist creep, if the bosses son does it he is just a bit eccentric.

This is true in English, where the term eccentric is used to excuse people like Jimmy Saville - who was really fucking weird - while other, harmless eccentrics get called weird if they're ugly or poor.

But in order for that to make any sense, there would have to be a positive attachment to the concept of an eccentric - if it's a euphemism, it has to be a euphemism for something.

This man is objectively the villain in this scenario, but this is what it refers to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XebF2cgmFmU

 

[Male Idiot]

The hungarian words all differ by degrees of how crazy/harmless it is.

My point wasn't that some societies like them more, just that it isn't entirely an anglo thing because it sounds nicer in English than German.

I can see your point but I would only apply it to a very few select countries like hardcore sharia ones. Maybe asian commie dictatorships like what Pol Pot ran. Usually nobles weren't ran out of britain because did some unusual stuff like building a silly mechanical device or having a garden full of stuffed exotic birds.

I would even argue rich weebs fall into this category in the modern asia-sphere.

Rich guys could usually take part in weird hobbies. It was even a past time for some nobles, like astronomy/astrology or chemistry/alchemy.

 

[skykiii]

I know of no such word in another language and until someone can give one that means what eccentric means, train boy's point stands.

First off:

https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/japanese-word-for-a77c1b28f3e4696afefd3add12239544d5e08273.html

Yeah I just had to look up "Japanese word for eccentric" and got a whole list of suggestions. I'm sure now I'm gonna hear a lot of needling about how they somehow don't count because its not Thursday anymore or some shit.

Secondly, so because we might not be able to answer his question, that means Japan really doesn't have eccentrics....

That's like arguing that because Popeye the Sailor Man can't tell you how to build a nuclear reactor, that nuclear reactors must not exist.

Of course if you ask on Kiwi Farms, you're gonna get a lot of people who can't refute the point because, ya know, we're not Japanese nor are we particularly versed in foreign cultures and languages. I have the feeling Doctor Love would be getting a different response if he asked a forum that had language professors or actual Japanese people.

And that's kind of an absurd basis to draw some bizarre "this thing is a cultural phenomenon" theories from. It's literally the kind of logic History Channel's Ancient Aliens uses.

 

[Grundlejungle]

Here's another odd experience that I had just a few days ago:
A bit of backstory is required. A few months ago my father passed, leaving a ridiculous amount of assorted scrap metal, tools, chemicals, vehicles, and garbage on multiple properties. Any attempt at clean up of even the smallest variety during his life would result in what became a very familiar tantrum. He would sometimes yell or throw things, but he would always walk in a circle stomping his feet so violently that it would shake the whole house. After several months and a ridiculous amount of labor, I'm finally down to about the last 10% of his stuff. It's around noon and I had just finished a call with someone who was interested in buying my dad's most prized possession, (his scrapping truck), when I hear a massive crash directly above me in the attic. The crash immediately becomes a series of violent stomping footsteps pacing a circle and shaking the whole house, before stopping just as quickly as it started.
Now being a perfectly calm and rational person, I grabbed my Cutlass and 1 million volt taser and cleared every room in the house and every inch the entire property outside.
I even checked the attic to see if maybe some of the half dozen boxes in there had shifted and fell, but nothing was amiss.
Now there are two things about the Attic that make it literally impossible for someone to go up there and do that without me knowing.
1. The only way to access it is via the incredibly creaky fold down ladder that is in the hallway about 10 ft from where I was sitting.
2. There's no floor in that half of the attic, just exposed beams and insulation. You can't walk there unless you want to stick your foot through the ceiling.

I've had a few other odd experiences during this time as well, I shall write them up later.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Seconding this, aliens and inter-dimensional entities (which mostly consist of extraterrestrials and some forms of shadow people) that manifest in the spiritual plane can also obscure their true appearances with a shadowy veil.

In my experience, demons are the most vicious when you are aware of them and what they are. You have to rile them up pretty hard to actually make them show themselves as demons, but if you are even slightly aware of them and how they act enough to clock them, they'll attack you more intensely.

Has anybody else experienced this or am I being a schitzo?

Secondly, so because we might not be able to answer his question, that means Japan really doesn't have eccentrics....

He's a spaz, just don't feed him

 

[Archeops]

Part of me kind of wants to do some research into spiritual entities tied to voodoo ever since I saw The Princess and The Frog when it first came out but another part is kind of scared shitless of it after I watch an episode of The Dead Files saw how spooked the spiritual medium was when she was dealing with said voodoo-related entity: she was willing to talk about it to some extent and have it sketched out but she wasn't willing to name it because doing so would cause her to form a pact with it.

I really got to get some screencaps of the sketches from that show, some of them (including the one of the voodoo entity here) kind of disturbing.

In my experience, demons are the most vicious when you are aware of them and what they are. You have to rile them up pretty hard to actually make them show themselves as demons, but if you are even slightly aware of them and how they act enough to clock them, they'll attack you more intensely.

It's because the rug's been pulled and now there's a good chance the demon's target (or targets) will take measures against it, the only option they have now is to scare off of the person in question if they want to keep their quarry.

 

[Doctor Love]

I have the feeling Doctor Love would be getting a different response if he asked a forum that had language professors or actual Japanese people.

Not that the phenomenon doesn't exist - that it doesn't have a specific word to describe it.

Could you, using your own words, describe what eccentric means? You keep Googling random shit, and I suspect you don't know what the word means. The closest, modern, phrase is "based and redpilled" - it doesn't refer to someone who is simply outside of the norms.

It's more like, someone who you have to adjust the norms to accommodate, like Kanye West.

 

[skykiii]

So actually, speaking of paranormal experiences, I've had two recently.

I think I posted the one earlier, where I thought I heard my mom cackling in her bedroom.

A few nights back I had another case, where someone who--I can't say "looked" but certainly felt a lot like my mom came into my room and I felt something tugging on my arm. It even woke me up (I didn't feel a physical sensation, but I felt like I should have felt one, if that makes sense).

Important to note... my mom isn't even dead, so I'm not sure why whatever entity uses her. The only reason I can think of is because its trying not to scare me.

 

[Flan Handler]

its trying not to scare me.

Nightmare fodder.

 

[Overly Serious]

I grabbed my Cutlass...

Apropos of nothing, this made me realise I need to become more cool.