The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

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Cardenio said:
The Simpsons Movie was made by a committee of veteran writers and then sat thru a lengthy development hell. This kind of process is what the classic era used to develop scripts but it didn't end there. They then did a series of test screenings and the reactions of the audience altered the movie heavily. This is why "Spider-Pig" which was once one dumb throwaway joke became the Pickle Rick of the movie's meme marketing.

What you were left with is a heavily lopsided film that tries to please everyone including the jaded 90s "Comicbook Guy" style fans and your normies. I saw it once in the theater and my reaction was it felt like a decent recreation of the classic show, until The Simpsons escaped Springfield and then it turned into unfunny trash.

I still remembered being bored to tears during the Eskimo Dream sequence. Why did they try to make drama with Marge leaving Homer when we know such a dramatic event would obviously be resolved? Why did they rename Rainer Wolfcastle "Arnold Schwarzenegger?"

It amazes me that the movie is only 86 minutes long yet felt so much longer. I wonder why Mr. Burns is reduced to a small credits cameo when he's the most iconic antagonist the show had and could have easily been written in as a character who was behind the destroying of Springfield. Why do the Simpsons writers have an apparent disdain for the EPA? Whatever, what should have been used as the finale for the show now just feels like a footnote in the TV show that'll never end.
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I read somewhere that the Movie was like 95% written with Hank Skorpio as the villain but he was too likable and not evil enough so they had to scrap the script and start over.
 
Ruin said:
I read somewhere that the Movie was like 95% written with Hank Skorpio as the villain but he was too likable and not evil enough so they had to scrap the script and start over.
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Them not fucking with "You Only Move Twice" is a decision I personally applaud. I mean why would Hank want to kill The Simpsons, he absolutely loved Homer.
 
"Oh, I like food alright!"

I like pizza!

I like bagels!

I like hot dogs with mustard and beer!

I'll eat eggplant!

I could even eat a baby deer!

La la la la la la la la la!

Who's that baby deer on the lawn there-
 
Ruin said:
I read somewhere that the Movie was like 95% written with Hank Skorpio as the villain but he was too likable and not evil enough so they had to scrap the script and start over.
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The villain we got was even changed at the last minute.

The Burger King movie toys were already made though so that's why this guy:

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Looks like this in toy form:

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Quijibo69 said:
Found A Simpsons podcast for Cucks:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KGibh4dF10U
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This is from a few years ago. Bob and Henry broke up with Chris (the guy on the right) when he moved back to Tallahassee. I admit I do listen and enjoy that show, but I am autistic enough to enjoy it. They have gotten to interview a good number of writers and producers as well, which has helped fill out quite a bit of the behind the scenes lore.
 
BR55 said:
I've said it before but The Simpson's Movie just has the weirdest...atmosphere/vibe/feeling to it on rewatch.
A sort of airless and lifeless quality just pervades the whole experience.
Uncanny Valley applied to an entire film.
The cinematic equivalent of purgatory.
It's like the team got stuck halfway between making something great and phoning it in when they made the movie.
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I think a big reason why is it's got that digital sheen to it.

I wish a Simpsons movie had been made in the 90s like was originally planned because the animation probably would have had a much better texture to it.
 
Dom Cruise said:
I think a big reason why is it's got that digital sheen to it.

I wish a Simpsons movie had been made in the 90s like was originally planned because the animation probably would have had a much better texture to it.
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Not only that, but it would have shown a better bad guy in the big spotlight like Sideshow Bob and with Phil Hartman still alive then, we would have cameos of Lionel Hutz and/or Troy McClure.
 
Syaoran Li said:
The movie was good the first time I saw it, and I saw it in the theaters when I was fourteen. The appeal of The Simpsons Movie was in the spectacle of it all, the idea that we were finally getting a movie adaptation and since the show was nearing the twentieth season, everyone thought it was coming to an end.

When you rewatch it, it's mediocre. Not as bad as the Zombie Simpsons seasons that came after it but not as good as the Golden Age (Seasons 1-8) or the Silver Age (Seasons 9-13) but more like a typical episode from the seasons where Zombie Simpsons was getting started (14-17) but you did have the occasional gem.

I honestly liked the Mike Scully seasons despite their flaws, but Al Jean's tenure has been awful and is pretty much when the show becomes Zombie Simpsons. Season 13 is pretty good and is more of a Silver Age season and you still have some good gems here and there through Seasons 14 and 15 although the decline becomes a lot more apparent there.

At the most generous, I'd cut off the series after Season 15 since that's the last season where you had any of the old guard writers on board (aside from Al Jean) and while there are a few more episodes from Season 16 and 17 I liked despite their ridiculousness (Treehouse of Horror XV, The Italian Bob, Midnight RX) everything after that is shit.

The Simpsons Movie really felt like a last hurrah, at least when I saw it in the theaters. Everything after that was when I realized the show had fully zombified.



The closest thing they did were the evolution episode in 2006 (right as the show was going into full Zombie Simpsons mode) that was mentioned earlier and the origin of Flanderization as a pop culture term.
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On a side note, the phenomenon of movies that only really work the first time you see them in theaters is interesting, I always think of Spielberg's War of The Worlds as a good example of that, when you saw that movie for the first time in theaters, not knowing what the heck was going to happen or what you were going to see, it was great, especially as the sound design was tailor made for theaters (think the Tripods creepy horn sounds) but every time I've rewatched it it's somewhat mediocre, especially knowing the abrupt ending.

Duncan Hills Coffee said:
No. Kamp Krusty was originally going to be the story, but they realized they couldn't stretch that out into a feature length movie
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Wasn't Cape Feare originally going to be the movie's storyline as well?
 
Kosher Dill said:
You know, the "tomacco" episode is precisely the moment when I checked out of "The Simpsons" forever.
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I still saw some episodes after season 10 in the '00s, but sometime by 2009 is when I pretty much "permanently checked out".

There are a couple of gags I can recall from the "crappingly new" episodes that were OK - like "It's Bart's Moon Party From Outer Space", and this CBG line from "Helter Shelter" (season 14):

Oh, it is such an honor... to host our favorite family. And you came at an exciting time. I'm chairing a meeting of the Galactic U.N. [we see a bunch of cardboard cutouts of aliens at a table] My apologies. The paint is still wet on Ambassador Farfoon.
 
Dom Cruise said:
I think a big reason why is it's got that digital sheen to it.

I wish a Simpsons movie had been made in the 90s like was originally planned because the animation probably would have had a much better texture to it.
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It's like Freddy VS Jason. I'll defend the film and thought it was a good cap to both franchises. But it would have been so much more epic had it been done in the 80's or even 91 or 92 when both franchises were at their peak.
 
BrunoMattei said:
It's like Freddy VS Jason. I'll defend the film and thought it was a good cap to both franchises. But it would have been so much more epic had it been done in the 80's or even 91 or 92 when both franchises were at their peak.
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That was the last film in both the original Friday and Nightmare continuities wasn't it?

You're not wrong but in the case of Freddy VS Jason I think the early 2000sness of it is interesting in it's own way.
 
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