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It also helps that it was written by John Swartzwelder, who is a gun rights advocate. He understood the intricacies behind the gun ownership debate and made an even-handed episode regarding the topic.

Swartzwelder was based, and he was also conservative. It's because of him that Golden Era episodes were balanced to some extent and weren't just a big leftist circle jerk like they are now. In Bart Gets an Elephant (Season 5), Stampy the elephant goes on a rampage and breaks into the Republican National Convention and everyone cheers: on the wall are two huge banners that say, "We're just plain evil" and "We want what's worst for everyone!"...but then Stampy crashes through the DNC and everyone boos, and the banners on their wall read, "We can't govern!" and "We hate life and ourselves!". If this episode came out now, the part with the DNC would either be cut out completely, or only shown in a positive light.
 
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I remember reading once a million years ago that Groening was a horror fan. I always thought that was neat and that reference to I Spit On Your Grave in one episode made more sense.
 
It also helps that it was written by John Swartzwelder, who is a gun rights advocate. He understood the intricacies behind the gun ownership debate and made an even-handed episode regarding the topic.
After The Simpsons he wrote a series of very underappreciated comedy novels, starting with The Time Machine Did It, which is kind of Homer Simpson - Private Investigator.
I remember reading once a million years ago that Groening was a horror fan. I always thought that was neat and that reference to I Spit On Your Grave in one episode made more sense.
Double billed with I Thumb Through Your Magazines
 
After The Simpsons he wrote a series of very underappreciated comedy novels, starting with The Time Machine Did It, which is kind of Homer Simpson - Private Investigator.

Double billed with I Thumb Through Your Magazines
If that's true it kinda contradicts the idea that groeing didn't see the shining before they made the parody in treehouse of horror v
How can you call yourself a horror fan without having seen the shining.? I can't recall if was Matt exactly or one of the episodes writers but someone wasnt familiar with it when they made the parody
 
Sounds like some BS they have to say for legal reasons. Like the hoops they jumped through pretending it wasn't Michael Jackson singing in Stark Raving Dad.
Not really since parody is supposed to be protected by fair use. Plus they flat out made a joke about that too.

"you mean shining "

"SSSSHH!... you want to get sued!?"
 
Michael Jackson singing in Stark Raving Dad

HEE HEEE!

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Swartzwelder was based, and he was also conservative. It's because of him that Golden Era episodes were balanced to some extent and weren't just a big leftist circle jerk like they are now. In Bart Gets an Elephant (Season 5), Stampy the elephant goes on a rampage and breaks into the Republican National Convention and everyone cheers: on the wall are two huge banners that say, "We're just plain evil" and "We want what's worst for everyone!"...but then Stampy crashes through the DNC and everyone boos, and the banners on their wall read, "We can't govern!" and "We hate life and ourselves!". If this episode came out now, the part with the DNC would either be cut out completely, or only shown in a positive light.

The absurdity of an elephant being able to crash through back-to-back political conventional halls like that, to raucous applause and jeering boos, in the span of 10 seconds? That had me laughing so hard at the time, I never was able to notice the signs until reruns.... and even if I had, it wouldn't have mattered.

We have all forgotten what humor is in the name of slavish political devotion, and it's sad.

Oh, best joke was when he's headed for the peanut factory " This is the moment we feared people! Many of you thought it would never happen! "

The thing about Flanderizeing Flanders and killing off Maude was it was just so mean-spirited, like the writers were making him pay, personally, for the sins of the Religious Right. They kept having him brutalized by fate as a way to almost dare him to renounce his faith... and become an insufferable moralist so they could justify it. It was treated as if this was "right", a "fair" fate for such a man, to lose his wife and anything good he may have had because a Christian in 2000 didn't deserve peace or prosperity.

It was inexcusably nasty because he'd been "punished" before, he started up a small business that failed (only to be rescued, ironically, by Homer realizing that his desire to see Ned fail was selfish) and later he ends up losing his home to a Hurricane, suffers a breakdown, and spends time in a mental ward, revealing he had a very unhealthy childhood where his parents let him run wild, let him steal and beat up other kids, never disciplined him, and his current perfectionist-like personality was a result of psychiatrists trying to make him less of a brat ? That should be plenty humiliation. But no, none of that was GOOD enough..... this man hasn't suffered ENOUGH for the likes of the writers, apparently. Now it's time to kill his wife. What's that say about THEM?
 
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The absurdity of an elephant being able to crash through back-to-back political conventional halls like that, to raucous applause and jeering boos, in the span of 10 seconds? That had me laughing so hard at the time, I never was able to notice the signs until reruns.... and even if I had, it wouldn't have mattered.

We have all forgotten what humor is in the name of slavish political devotion, and it's sad.

Oh, best joke was when he's headed for the peanut factory " This is the moment we feared people! Many of you thought it would never happen! "

The thing about Flanderizeing Flanders and killing off Maude was it was just so mean-spirited, like the writers were making him pay, personally, for the sins of the Religious Right. They kept having him brutalized by fate as a way to almost dare him to renounce his faith... and become an insufferable moralist so they could justify it. It was treated as if this was "right", a "fair" fate for such a man, to lose his wife and anything good he may have had because a Christian in 2000 didn't deserve peace or prosperity.

It was inexcusably nasty because he'd been "punished" before, he started up a small business that failed (only to be rescued, ironically, by Homer realizing that his desire to see Ned fail was selfish) and later he ends up losing his home to a Hurricane, suffers a breakdown, and spends time in a mental ward, revealing he had a very unhealthy childhood where his parents let him run wild, let him steal and beat up other kids, never disciplined him, and his current perfectionist-like personality was a result of psychiatrists trying to make him less of a brat ? That should be plenty humiliation. But no, none of that was GOOD enough..... this man hasn't suffered ENOUGH for the likes of the writers, apparently. Now it's time to kill his wife. What's that say about THEM?

I think I get it now.

The writers for Ned Flanders now are early season Homer Simpsons.

The same Homer Simpson who wished for the Leftorium to fail.
 
There was a fairly recent episode where AOC and two other feminist Democratic politicians form a dream team to have Donald Trump deported. The entire episode is just one big Tumblr-esque fan fiction with a plot that seems like a Mad Lib ripped from the pages of some Millennial influencer's feminist blog.

There was a recent 2019 episode in which an all-female reboot of Itchy & Scratchy, and Bart decides he likes it, so he joins forces with a radical feminist gang (voiced by real life feminist comedians), and decides to wage a war against a parody of Men's Rights activists. Bart even goes as far as committing acts of vandalism in the hopes of raising awareness for women's rights. As absurd and inane as this episode sounds, it was in fact a real canon episode, but the silver lining is that is has some of the lowest ratings and views in Simpsons history.

God I'm glad I stopped watch around season 15
 
God I'm glad I stopped watch around season 15

Same here. I stopped watching around Seasons 15-16, but I distinctly remember the show sucking pretty badly around 11-12, to the point where I was merely watching episodes from Seasons 12-15 in the background as noise, and not particularly being very interested in them. It was more of a chore watching them at that point, and they have little or no replay value.
 
We have all forgotten what humor is in the name of slavish political devotion, and it's sad.

"Election '96: America Flips a Coin" I'd hate to see how they'd do the 2020 election.

I stopped watching during that episode when Marge was given breast implants by mistake, and all the townspeople were singing about them. Right after the song was finished, I turned off.
 
"Election '96: America Flips a Coin" I'd hate to see how they'd do the 2020 election.

I stopped watching during that episode when Marge was given breast implants by mistake, and all the townspeople were singing about them. Right after the song was finished, I turned off.

Yep, that was Season 14, and well into Zombie Simpsons territory. I was in high school when those episodes debut, and found myself irritated with them instead of being entertained.
 
You know what I really loved about that episode? It doesn't take one side on an issue it's trying to address. Sure homer is portrayed as his usual dumbass self with a gun and Marge is very much against him owning one. But the episode doesn't portray one side as right or wrong. Homer's irresponsible behavior makes a strong argument for gun control but at the same time the other members of the gun club portray the positive side of being a legal and responsible gun owner. They rightfully are outraged when they see how wreckless Homer is and kick him out of the club and even save the day in the end.


If the cartridge family was made today you can bettor would be a one side almost after school special bad episode on par with say.. Lets not be skeletons from okko
As much as I love that episode (The joke about the irregular Oreos was and always will be absolutely brilliant) I always feel the need to point out that this episode (being a Season 9 episode) conflicts with past seasons which show that Homer is already a gun owner. For instance, season 4's Treehouse of Horror III in which Homer is shown wielding a shotgun like a fucking boss.
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"But those episodes aren't canon!" I hear you say. Well, hows about the Season 4 episode "Lisa's First Word" in which Homer tries to advertise the bowling alley by popping off with a shotty?
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It could be argued that the police confiscated the gun, but how about the Season 5 Episode "Mr Burns' Casino" in which Homer wields a double barreled shotgun? (Which we possibly see later in Season 10 modified into a makeup gun)
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Or how about Homer the Vigilante, another Season 5 episode where Homer and pals arm themselves with shotguns?
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Granted yes, Homer is shown to be a very irresponsible gun owner most of the time, but Marge never seemed to have a problem with him owning guns before. Maybe it was just the fact that it was a handgun that she didn't like.

I still wish they'd address the fact that Marge kept the fucking gun!
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As much as I love that episode (The joke about the irregular Oreos was and always will be absolutely brilliant) I always feel the need to point out that this episode (being a Season 9 episode) conflicts with past seasons which show that Homer is already a gun owner. For instance, season 4's Treehouse of Horror III in which Homer is shown wielding a shotgun like a fucking boss.
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"But those episodes aren't canon!" I hear you say. Well, hows about the Season 4 episode "Lisa's First Word" in which Homer tries to advertise the bowling alley by popping off with a shotty?
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It could be argued that the police confiscated the gun, but how about the Season 5 Episode "Mr Burns' Casino" in which Homer wields a double barreled shotgun? (Which we possibly see later in Season 10 modified into a makeup gun)
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Or how about Homer the Vigilante, another Season 5 episode where Homer and pals arm themselves with shotguns?
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Granted yes, Homer is shown to be a very irresponsible gun owner most of the time, but Marge never seemed to have a problem with him owning guns before. Maybe it was just the fact that it was a handgun that she didn't like.

I still wish they'd address the fact that Marge kept the fucking gun!
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Yeah it's a better zombie Simpsons episode if only cause it's still early in the bad years when they still had a majority of the original staff. But still suffers from being so inconsistent with older episodes that it doesn't make sense.
 
Yeah it's a better zombie Simpsons episode if only cause it's still early in the bad years when they still had a majority of the original staff. But still suffers from being so inconsistent with older episodes that it doesn't make sense.

Hell, I remember seeing the Cartridge Family for the first time when it debuted and wondering what the big deal was with Homer owning a gun, when I personally recalled the $pringfield episode with Burns' Casino when Homer uses a shotgun to protect the kids from the Boogey Man.
 
Hell, I remember seeing the Cartridge Family for the first time when it debuted and wondering what the big deal was with Homer owning a gun, when I personally recalled the $pringfield episode with Burns' Casino when Homer uses a shotgun to protect the kids from the Boogey Man.

Some quick research at Frinkiac shows that prior to the Cartridge family Homer is shown owning the following guns

Normal shotgun
Double barreled shotgun
Hunting rifle
Hunting rifle (Bart is using this one while deer hunting but it's likely also owned by Homer)

So yea Homer owns the usual amount of guns for a working class white guy.
 
Some quick research at Frinkiac shows that prior to the Cartridge family Homer is shown owning the following guns

Normal shotgun
Double barreled shotgun
Hunting rifle
Hunting rifle (Bart is using this one while deer hunting but it's likely also owned by Homer)

So yea Homer owns the usual amount of guns for a working class white guy.

Exactly. I recall 13-year old me seeing The Cartridge Family and thinking to myself, "Uhhhh, hasn't Homer owned rifles and shotguns in older episodes?"
 
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