The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

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Per a Disney+ spokesperson, the show’s original aspect ratio will eventually be back, in streaming form:

We presented The Simpsons in 16:9 aspect ratio at launch in order to guarantee visual quality and consistency across all 30 seasons. Over time, Disney+ will roll out new features and additional viewing options. As part of this, in early 2020, Disney+ will make the first 19 seasons (and some episodes from Season 20) of The Simpsons available in their original 4:3 aspect ratio, giving subscribers a choice of how they prefer to view the popular series.
Now, only if Disney+ would do something about the missing "Stark Raving Dad," "Homer Badman," and "The Cartridge Family..."

EDIT - Thanks for correcting me, @Duncan Hills Coffee . I tend to skim thread posts. My bad.
 
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While i love this shitpost, this scene wouldn't have changed as they kept the correct aspect ratio for the Simpsons TV scenes e.g
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Have you got anymore of those Youtube poops?
That channel has a bunch of different ones (sugarposting, lemonposting, liver & onions posting, oldjewishmanposting) though most (all?) have been shared in the thread already.
 
While i love this shitpost, this scene wouldn't have changed as they kept the correct aspect ratio for the Simpsons TV scenes e.g
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That channel has a bunch of different ones (sugarposting, lemonposting, liver & onions posting, oldjewishmanposting) though most (all?) have been shared in the thread already.

I've already watched everything on his channel. Autistic ratings to follow.
 
Remember when "Sunday, Cruddy Sunday" was the most rerun rerun?

I think it was around 2000, before the show really went downhill.

Hell, remember when "The Principal and The Pauper" and "Saddlesore Galatica" were the "worst episodes ever"?

I actually kind of liked those episodes for what they were (both were intended as self-parody) and I'd take them over "The Boys of Bummer", the woke episode from last season, and well, pretty much any episode from Season 20 onward.

The Mike Scully era (Seasons 9-12) were a hell of a lot better than the majority of Al Jean's tenure post-Scully.

Hell, the early part of Al Jean's run (Seasons 13-16) were decent. You could really see the decline setting in, but there were still a lot of good episodes overall and the bad episodes didn't quite outnumber the good, especially not at the severe disparity they exist from Season 20 onward.

I'd say that 2007 was the year that The Simpsons truly jumped the shark for good. The movie should have been the "last hurrah" to end on instead of letting it drag on. I'd say that eighteen seasons and a movie is a good run, especially for a show that was as influential on pop culture as The Simpsons.
 
Hell, remember when "The Principal and The Pauper" and "Saddlesore Galatica" were the "worst episodes ever"?

I actually kind of liked those episodes for what they were (both were intended as self-parody) and I'd take them over "The Boys of Bummer", the woke episode from last season, and well, pretty much any episode from Season 20 onward.

The Mike Scully era (Seasons 9-12) were a hell of a lot better than the majority of Al Jean's tenure post-Scully.

Hell, the early part of Al Jean's run (Seasons 13-16) were decent. You could really see the decline setting in, but there were still a lot of good episodes overall and the bad episodes didn't quite outnumber the good, especially not at the severe disparity they exist from Season 20 onward.

I'd say that 2007 was the year that The Simpsons truly jumped the shark for good. The movie should have been the "last hurrah" to end on instead of letting it drag on. I'd say that eighteen seasons and a movie is a good run, especially for a show that was as influential on pop culture as The Simpsons.

Isn't "Kill the Alligator and Run" widely considered to have been the point of no return? I've heard that a number of places.
 
Isn't "Kill the Alligator and Run" widely considered to have been the point of no return? I've heard that a number of places.

It used to be, until Boys of Bummer outdid it and showed everyone what a real "jump the shark" moment looks like.

In retrospect, Kill the Alligator and Run wasn't the "worst episode ever" that a lot of people made it out to be. After Boys of Bummer and the post-movie seasons came about, Kill the Alligator and Run's reputation improved a little bit.

It's still considered a bad episode and I'd say it's one of the weaker episodes of the pre-2007 episodes. But now it's gone from "worst of the entire series" to "worst of Season 11"

If I were to categorize The Simpsons into different ages, here's how I'd do it.

Golden Age: Seasons 1-8
Silver Age: Seasons 9-13
Bronze Age: Seasons 14-17 and the movie
Zombie Simpsons Age: Season 18 onward (sans the movie)
 
Hell, remember when "The Principal and The Pauper" and "Saddlesore Galatica" were the "worst episodes ever"?

I actually kind of liked those episodes for what they were (both were intended as self-parody) and I'd take them over "The Boys of Bummer", the woke episode from last season, and well, pretty much any episode from Season 20 onward.

The Mike Scully era (Seasons 9-12) were a hell of a lot better than the majority of Al Jean's tenure post-Scully.

Hell, the early part of Al Jean's run (Seasons 13-16) were decent. You could really see the decline setting in, but there were still a lot of good episodes overall and the bad episodes didn't quite outnumber the good, especially not at the severe disparity they exist from Season 20 onward.

I'd say that 2007 was the year that The Simpsons truly jumped the shark for good. The movie should have been the "last hurrah" to end on instead of letting it drag on. I'd say that eighteen seasons and a movie is a good run, especially for a show that was as influential on pop culture as The Simpsons.

Funny you say that, because 2007 post-movie is around the time I stopped watching regularly. I'd watch the Treehouse of Horror of later seasons a couple time but eventually even they weren't amusing and I just gave up. I can watch up to 14 fine. Those post classic era seasons aren't amazing but they're watchable in comparison. I once watched a more recent episode (I think a 20+ one) and my face was straight the whole time. Then I watched a season 13 episode that played afterward and laughed my ass off. It wasn't even nostalgia despite me having seen the episode so long ago. It was just better with the writing, timing, etc.
 
Funny you say that, because 2007 post-movie is around the time I stopped watching regularly. I'd watch the Treehouse of Horror of later seasons a couple time but eventually even they weren't amusing and I just gave up. I can watch up to 14 fine. Those post classic era seasons aren't amazing but they're watchable in comparison. I once watched a more recent episode (I think a 20+ one) and my face was straight the whole time. Then I watched a season 13 episode that played afterward and laughed my ass off. It wasn't even nostalgia despite me having seen the episode so long ago. It was just better with the writing, timing, etc.

Agreed. I stopped watching around the same time as you did, and I used to think that my love for the Mike Scully seasons and the earliest Al Jean seasons (Seasons 13-15) was only because of childhood nostalgia since I was a kid when they aired.

I was born in 1993, and we used to watch The Simpsons as a family every Sunday, so most of my childhood memories of The Simpsons was a mix of Golden Age reruns and premieres from the post-Golden Age/pre-movie seasons.

After Season 18, I stopped watching regularly save for the annual Treehouse of Horror episode or the occasional episode whose promos looked interesting (like the episode where they went to Ireland) and part of that was because I moved to a new town in the summer of 2007.

Looking back at what the old episodes were, and how bad later episodes could get, I realize it wasn't just childhood nostalgia. Really, it was just Golden Age fans being premature with their claims of the show's decline.
 
Last legit good episode in my opinion was that Hallowe'en one where Lisa becomes scared of everything and Homer tries to protect her from some home invaders.

Even then that was a rare event at that point.
 
Agreed. I stopped watching around the same time as you did, and I used to think that my love for the Mike Scully seasons and the earliest Al Jean seasons (Seasons 13-15) was only because of childhood nostalgia since I was a kid when they aired.

I was born in 1993, and we used to watch The Simpsons as a family every Sunday, so most of my childhood memories of The Simpsons was a mix of Golden Age reruns and premieres from the post-Golden Age/pre-movie seasons.

After Season 18, I stopped watching regularly save for the annual Treehouse of Horror episode or the occasional episode whose promos looked interesting (like the episode where they went to Ireland) and part of that was because I moved to a new town in the summer of 2007.

Looking back at what the old episodes were, and how bad later episodes could get, I realize it wasn't just childhood nostalgia. Really, it was just Golden Age fans being premature with their claims of the show's decline.

I'm a couple years older than you so all of my classic era viewings growing up were from syndicated reruns and DVDs. I started watching first runs in late elementary school. I wish that SNPP made more episode capsules because it's very interesting seeing the contributor's episode reviews when they initially came out. So many of them hated golden age episodes when they initially aired. I guess when they didn't have the later episodes to compare to they must've sucked to the contributors lol. Sure, the earliest post-classic era is lower quality than the best seasons. But I can at least laugh at them. The Simpsons used to have a good balance of drama and humor in its more emotion driven episodes, The latest episodes I've seen have forgotten that.
 
I'd say that 2007 was the year that The Simpsons truly jumped the shark for good. The movie should have been the "last hurrah" to end on instead of letting it drag on. I'd say that eighteen seasons and a movie is a good run, especially for a show that was as influential on pop culture as The Simpsons.
Funny you say that, because 2007 post-movie is around the time I stopped watching regularly. I'd watch the Treehouse of Horror of later seasons a couple time but eventually even they weren't amusing and I just gave up. I can watch up to 14 fine. Those post classic era seasons aren't amazing but they're watchable in comparison. I once watched a more recent episode (I think a 20+ one) and my face was straight the whole time. Then I watched a season 13 episode that played afterward and laughed my ass off. It wasn't even nostalgia despite me having seen the episode so long ago. It was just better with the writing, timing, etc.
I'm a strange case because The Simpsons Movie came out when I started becoming more aware of the series' existence (I'm several years younger than both of you, so I have zero memory of 90s Simpsons). The movie was the first Simpsons thing I ever watched, and I started watching the show not long after. Looking back, I thought the show was amusing but not gut-busting hilarious and even now I couldn't tell you what the post-Movie episodes were about barring a few moments that stick out in my mind. However, even from this point in the show it was still going downhill. I distinctly remember the point I stopped watching to be Treehouse of Horror XXII, which was unbelievably awful (the Avatar parody in 2011 still baffles me).

After that I started deep-diving into the series' past and I haven't looked back since.
 
I'm a strange case because The Simpsons Movie came out when I started becoming more aware of the series' existence (I'm several years younger than both of you, so I have zero memory of 90s Simpsons). The movie was the first Simpsons thing I ever watched, and I started watching the show not long after. Looking back, I thought the show was amusing but not gut-busting hilarious and even now I couldn't tell you what the post-Movie episodes were about barring a few moments that stick out in my mind. However, even from this point in the show it was still going downhill. I distinctly remember the point I stopped watching to be Treehouse of Horror XXII, which was unbelievably awful (the Avatar parody in 2011 still baffles me).

After that I started deep-diving into the series' past and I haven't looked back since.

That's genuinely interesting, thank you. I very rarely hear from people who found The Simpsons later in its run. It seems like the movie really was the show's last hurrah. Even my mom, who despises The Simpsons and would yell at my dad for even putting the show on when I was very small, liked parts of it. In particular, she really felt for Marge and thought that Julie did a great job. If the series ended on that note it would've been a nice book closer.

I was trying to remember exactly which episode was the last I consciously chose to see (vs finding while channel surfing). Either that Treehouse of Horror where Lisa cosplays as an Attack on Titan character (WTF) or The Simpsons Guy. I caught that ToH live, The Simpsons Guy I pirated. Probably the Treehouse of Horror. It aired (slightly) later.

If anything, The Simpsons Guy just made me appreciate the Simpsons themselves more. I have seen countless episodes of Family Guy (I even watched some of the very first episodes first run with my dad; my mom hated that even more), but the Griffins never clicked with me as much as The Simpsons. As nasty as the Simpsons can be to each other, the affection is there by the end of Act III. The Griffins appear to absolutely despise each other. That's not even counting how Stewie used to want to kill Lois. That episode really played on how overall different the two family's relations are, too, so it's not just personal bias.

The Treehouse of Horror, though, it just wasn't funny.
 
It seems like the movie really was the show's last hurrah.
I don't know if it really counts, but The Simpsons Game, the one that came out in 2007 after the Movie, was, for my money, the last time the show was truly hilarious. So to me the game is more the last hurrah since I actually find it funnier than the movie.
 
I don't know if it really counts, but The Simpsons Game, the one that came out in 2007 after the Movie, was, for my money, the last time the show was truly hilarious. So to me the game is more the last hurrah since I actually find it funnier than the movie.

I'm not much of a gamer and I never saw my brother play it (I'm more of a game watcher versus player), so I don't have an opinion on it. I did hear it was good. The Simpsons: Hit and Run is also a fine (and hilarious) game from seeing my brother play it, but it obviously came before The Simpsons Game.

(I have played the Konami Simpsons arcade, though, and that's a fun button masher.)
 
I did play The Simpsons Game and can attest it was funny and a pretty great game.

Best segment was where Marge and Lisa make an Itchy And Scratchy themed GTA less obscene at the behest of Hillary Clinton (who got crushed by a falling sign at the end)
 
I'm not much of a gamer and I never saw my brother play it (I'm more of a game watcher versus player)
If you can find a decent longplay of the game, that's a decent way to enjoy it if you don't want to track down a copy. It's funny, but the gameplay itself is somewhat above average; it's only really carried forward by the humor and the batshit story (seriously, the story becomes this beautifully meta mess near the end and it's amazing).

Best segment was where Marge and Lisa make an Itchy And Scratchy themed GTA less obscene at the behest of Hillary Clinton (who got crushed by a falling sign at the end)
Holy hell I actually forgot about that. I need to replay the game at some point.
 
I'm a couple years older than you so all of my classic era viewings growing up were from syndicated reruns and DVDs. I started watching first runs in late elementary school. I wish that SNPP made more episode capsules because it's very interesting seeing the contributor's episode reviews when they initially came out. So many of them hated golden age episodes when they initially aired. I guess when they didn't have the later episodes to compare to they must've sucked to the contributors lol. Sure, the earliest post-classic era is lower quality than the best seasons. But I can at least laugh at them. The Simpsons used to have a good balance of drama and humor in its more emotion driven episodes, The latest episodes I've seen have forgotten that.

I wish SNPP was still active.

I'm surprised a new group of people haven't come in and made new episode capsules. I used to love reading those as a kid back in the mid-2000's. Even after they stopped making new ones altogether, they were still popular for a little while after. I'm kind of surprised we never saw them finish the capsules for Season 13.

I think we could use a new group kind of like SNPP, now that we have the virtue of hindsight. Most of the SNPP Episode Capsules were current up to Season 12. I remember discovering Simpsons Archive in 2003-2004 and people were worried about the big hiatus. Then they came back to do capsules for Season 13, but then just stopped after a few episodes.

I'd love to see new Episode Capsules done. I'd basically make all new capsules for the first twelve seasons, now that we have the benefit of hindsight and also finish the rest of Season 13's capsules and then do Seasons 14-18 and the movie.

Anything after that would be a waste of time, unless you wanted to do capsules for "event episodes" like the Treehouse of Horror episodes or the crossovers with Family Guy and Futurama, or maybe the really egregiously bad post-movie episodes like Lisa Goes Gaga or That 90's Show.

Hell, I'm surprised the "Episode Capsule" concept didn't really take off outside of SNPP.

I remember seeing a few Futurama episode capsules back in the 2000's, but I don't think it caught on outside of that and I think a lot of those were done by some of the SNPP guys who also liked Futurama.
 
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