The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

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BetterFuckChuck said:
how is it woke specifically?
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Extremely regular (atleast once an episode last I checked) regurgitations of whatever the lazy and hyperbolic "right wing bad/bigut trullz bad" narrative of the week (or a year or two before the week given how out of step the show has been for decades) is while lavishing entirely uncritical and obsequious praise on whatever is fashionable in left wing politics/activism that week (or again, a year or two before that week) along with the most shameless consoom pushing imaginable. All of which seems designed to be the main point of discussion among the "professional" critic sphere so that they can rake in cheap pozz reviews for having the right opinions and liking the right products, and to try and ensure the conversation never shifts to how fucking trash the writing is and how downright painful the voice acting is after nearly 40 years.

As stated before though, the fact they jumped aboard the smug-woke bandwagon is not the issue, as the show was equally fucking cancerous and painful to watch during the brief window they went anti-woke back in the day
 
Judge Holden said:
Extremely regular (atleast once an episode last I checked) regurgitations of whatever the lazy and hyperbolic "right wing bad/bigut trullz bad" narrative of the week (or a year or two before the week given how out of step the show has been for decades) is while lavishing entirely uncritical and obsequious praise on whatever is fashionable in left wing politics/activism that week (or again, a year or two before that week) along with the most shameless consoom pushing imaginable. All of which seems designed to be the main point of discussion among the "professional" critic sphere so that they can rake in cheap pozz reviews for having the right opinions and liking the right products, and to try and ensure the conversation never shifts to how fucking trash the writing is and how downright painful the voice acting is after nearly 40 years.

As stated before though, the fact they jumped aboard the smug-woke bandwagon is not the issue, as the show was equally fucking cancerous and painful to watch during the brief window they went anti-woke back in the day
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1QEHvs7BLDg
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I think the question was why the Vice documentary was woke, not The Simpsons itself though I will say a vast majoprity of people who discuss the show are people who agree with the show's political leanings. Whenever youtubers talk about the history of the show its something like "Television beforte The Simpsons was conservatitive and promoting traditional values and therefore bad" which isn't even true as well ass praising the idea of mocking traditions, sayin g that dyssfunctional families and degenracy iss "more realistsic."
 
retartedconspiratard said:
I think the question was why the Vice documentary was woke, not The Simpsons itself though I will say a vast majoprity of people who discuss the show are people who agree with the show's political leanings. Whenever youtubers talk about the history of the show its something like "Television beforte The Simpsons was conservatitive and promoting traditional values and therefore bad" which isn't even true as well ass praising the idea of mocking traditions, sayin g that dyssfunctional families and degenracy iss "more realistsic."
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"Tradition is peer pressure from long-dead people!"
Yeah, let's just toss everything our ancestors did because they were evil, bad, and worst of all, white. This seething hatred for respecting one's predecessors and upholding the good they made will be Mankind's undoing one day.
 
retartedconspiratard said:
I think the question was why the Vice documentary was woke, not The Simpsons itself though I will say a vast majoprity of people who discuss the show are people who agree with the show's political leanings. Whenever youtubers talk about the history of the show its something like "Television beforte The Simpsons was conservatitive and promoting traditional values and therefore bad" which isn't even true as well ass praising the idea of mocking traditions, sayin g that dyssfunctional families and degenracy iss "more realistsic."
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the cosby show literally subverted the nuclear family ten years before the simpsons
Rakdos92 said:
"Tradition is peer pressure from long-dead people!"
Yeah, let's just toss everything our ancestors did because they were evil, bad, and worst of all, white. This seething hatred for respecting one's predecessors and upholding the good they made will be Mankind's undoing one day.
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libs will say this and then completely rewrite the revolutionary war because black conspiracy theorists want us to cry for long dead slaves existing in the past when everyone had slaves back then and the only slavery now is in non-western countries in africa, the middle east and asia
 
BetterFuckChuck said:
libs will say this and then completely rewrite the revolutionary war because black conspiracy theorists want us to cry for long dead slaves existing in the past when everyone had slaves back then and the only slavery now is in non-western countries in africa, the middle east and asia
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I'm in a good mood: I'll admit it's odiferous that Congress essentially wrote a blank check on condoning slavery in the southern colonies, and true that the British Empire promised freedom to any who fought for them (never mind they were perfectly happy to keep it going till the rebellion, and heaven forbid they free the massive amounts in truly nightmarish conditions in their West Indian islands)...

....but the Continental Army was by far the most integrated and actually-diverse version of the US Army till the ban on segregation in the armed forces in the mid-20th century, both in percentages and actual numbers. Blacks should instead take it as a positive that so many of them could and did enlist for the cause of freedom both then and as first step of a longer march to true equality before the law and daily life. No one denies society sure wasn't perfect back then, but these chumps really forget just how big a leap the American Revolution was in the first place much less kickstarting the ability to make things better for actually-marginalized groups over the course of history.
 
BetterFuckChuck said:
libs will say this and then completely rewrite the revolutionary war because black conspiracy theorists want us to cry for long dead slaves existing in the past when everyone had slaves back then and the only slavery now is in non-western countries in africa, the middle east and asia
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It's funny how they decry (american) slavery, but when you put forward hypotheticals where the USA never imported any slaves whatsoever, oooh, suddenly you hit the hornet's nest with a brick in a sock.
 
Judge Holden said:
Extremely regular (atleast once an episode last I checked) regurgitations of whatever the lazy and hyperbolic "right wing bad/bigut trullz bad" narrative of the week (or a year or two before the week given how out of step the show has been for decades) is while lavishing entirely uncritical and obsequious praise on whatever is fashionable in left wing politics/activism that week (or again, a year or two before that week) along with the most shameless consoom pushing imaginable. All of which seems designed to be the main point of discussion among the "professional" critic sphere so that they can rake in cheap pozz reviews for having the right opinions and liking the right products, and to try and ensure the conversation never shifts to how fucking trash the writing is and how downright painful the voice acting is after nearly 40 years.

As stated before though, the fact they jumped aboard the smug-woke bandwagon is not the issue, as the show was equally fucking cancerous and painful to watch during the brief window they went anti-woke back in the day
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1QEHvs7BLDg
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I think it ikss a myth that the show wass anti establismnent back then ince it was really just againsst the conservative etablisshment and not the liberal one. This can be een by how their critique of republicans being much worse than democrats with republicans being depicted as being plain evil and asssociated with corrupt bilolionaires and murderers while democrats are just merely useless and a little sleazy at times.Even the way they select gust stars, they would never have a cancelled right wing guest or somebody who goes against Hollywood proggressivism.
BetterFuckChuck said:
the cosby show literally subverted the nuclear family ten years before the simpsons
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That'ss why I said the way these proggresssivess sportray television history as consservative and traditional isn't true. Not only hacv e there been shows l;ike All in the Family, married with Children and Rosanne but the whole purposse of The Cosby Show was to "break racial stereotypes" and portray a Black family living like a White one as if that is how America loked in the 80's. Other sitcoms like Family Ties was litlerally aboput republicans bad, liberals good with an entire special about why Whitess are bad for not allowing Blacks into White neighbourhoods and Good Strokes for Different Folks was about a White man looking after Black kids.

Rakdos92 said:
It's funny how they decry (american) slavery, but when you put forward hypotheticals where the USA never imported any slaves whatsoever, oooh, suddenly you hit the hornet's nest with a brick in a sock.
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I remember Alternatehistoryhub did this exact what if where he wads created a stupid dilema where "sslavery and segregation would not happen" but then procceeds to say that Americans would become apathetic. He doesn't seem to have any problem with the fact that Europe and Asia nver really had a large African population for centruries but its a problem if it's America.
 
retartedconspiratard said:
but then procceeds to say that Americans would become apathetic.
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Which is bullshit because the USA has been colonized by white people with little to lose and much to gain. Does that guy think Niggers contributed the necessary vigor or what? Because that was all white men. Niggers never had that drive as Charles Darwin observed.
 
BetterFuckChuck said:
old simpsons definitely had its enlightened centrist moments idk what that guy's smoking
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Dunno if I’d go so far as to call old Simpsons centrist. They have always leaned towards the left, but in the early days they could at least poke fun at themselves as well, like any normal well-adjusted person should be able to.
 
[Also not to sperg, but fuck the Simpsons for caving in to that dumb Indian guy's complaints about Apu, it started the trend of every show needing to segregate voice casting for the actor to mention the skin tone of the character they voice.]
Any show that does now is straight dead to me.
 
Ainchiemi said:
[Also not to sperg, but fuck the Simpsons for caving in to that dumb Indian guy's complaints about Apu, it started the trend of every show needing to segregate voice casting for the actor to mention the skin tone of the character they voice.]
Any show that does now is straight dead to me.
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How far do they want to take it? What about talking animals and magical things in cartoons? Do they need to be voiced by real ones?
 
Ainchiemi said:
[Also not to sperg, but fuck the Simpsons for caving in to that dumb Indian guy's complaints about Apu, it started the trend of every show needing to segregate voice casting for the actor to mention the skin tone of the character they voice.]
Any show that does now is straight dead to me.
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We can be happy knowing that a) that's his main contribution to anything and b) despite all the song and dance about righting wrongs the doc is responsible for erasing Apu.
Turns out TheRealJims uploaded a video on Apu funny enough and he encourages people to watch The Problem with Apu even if you disagree with it on the basis that it is bitching about The Simpsons like any Simpsons fan does.
There are plenty of reasons some people dismiss Hari and his arguments, the most obvious is that its comedy is Daily Show I seethe about what I make fun of which by design will never deliver a message to those that don't already agree.
There's also that Hari doesn't seem to want anything concrete, the doc is literally just to bitch about Apu and its purpose is the same as Whoopi Goldeberg's racist cartoons collection, that's why he never offers any alternative solution besides the generic 'do better'.
The piece also can't claim to speak for anybody but Hari and his second gen comedian friends because Hari's parents don't mind Apu, nor do a lot of people of the South East Asian diaspora who know how to banter back if someone tries to be racist to them. One of the responses TheRealJims mentions is Sham Sharma, an Indian man living in India.
I'm impressed by TRJ's restraint to make fun of Adi Shankar, who despite having no connection to The Simpsons crew made a contest to give Apu non-racist plots with a cringy ass animation and selected the most generic option of giving Apu a business where he gets to interact with other Indian entrepreneurs. Shankar is the same Matthew Patel looking guy that gave us Captain Laserhawk, a show so generic and forgetable and I had to look its name twice while writing this.
To cap the sperging, Apu was an extremely fleshed out character in the earlier seasons. Arguably the most fleshed out out of the family. And he fell into irrelevance around the same time 'positive' Indian representation like lolweed stoner Kumar or Van Wilder friend Kumar came along. Writing rooms are still as white as ever and the only quotas they allow in are minorities that talk like them. Apu was too good to be Indian.
 
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XYZpdq Jr. said:
Castell, uh.... Homer Guy
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Was also in one of the funnier latter SG1 episodes, was a real treat seeing him and RDA together

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