The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

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Homer J. Fong said:
Pretty much, I think there's very few examples of Itchy and Scratchy being funny on its own. "Itchy & Scratchy Land" along with "Itchy and Scratchy The Movie" have amusing moments with the characters but it's more of a plot device to give The Simpsons characters depth as you get to see what stupid content they watch. South Park did more or less the same thing with Terrance and Philip.
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And then came Poochie, who was killed when he returned on his own planet.
 
honestly the itchy & scratchy cartoon itself is one of my least favourite parts of the show, I don't hate them or anything but I struggle to recall a particular one that I would say is that great. maybe the one where he ties scratchy's tongue to the moon and it squashes him, that's pretty funny. (I love how he runs around in total panic and just shuts himself in his closet) I have never been a huge fan of gratuitous cartoon violence in general and I never liked Tom & Jerry that much either. I get it's animated and all but I just like cats and both tom and scratchy don't deserve what happens to them.

I never realized before, but some Itchy and Scratchy cartoons send the message that violence against animals is funny!

Homer J. Fong said:
Pretty much, I think there's very few examples of Itchy and Scratchy being funny on its own. "Itchy & Scratchy Land" along with "Itchy and Scratchy The Movie" have amusing moments with the characters but it's more of a plot device to give The Simpsons characters depth as you get to see what stupid content they watch. South Park did more or less the same thing with Terrance and Philip.
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I agree, the episodes centered around I&S as a plot device are still great, it's only the in-universe show that I'm pretty unenthusiastic about. I would much rather watch terrance & philip, not without my anus is unironically one of my favourite south park episodes.

edit: I just remembered the one where scratchy's guts get tied to a brick, thrown out the window and he jumps out to get them back into him only to get impaled on a cactus. I like that one as well but my point still stands
 
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not to out myself as a zoomer but as a kid i watched the 2012 tmnt show and they had a similar thing where the characters watched a star trek parody that always related to the plot of the episode. i think thats what itchy and scratchy is great at, that usually a segment applies to the plot in hand. my favorites being the tent joke when bart becomes a boy scout and is too autistically fixated to find the joke funny because he used the wrong knot and the bit where krusty gets geniunely invested in the cartoon because it had itchy and scratchy with kids that he related to his rabbi dad
 
Syaoran Li said:
Eh, I liked a lot of Seasons 11-13, and there were still plenty of good episodes in Seasons 14 and 15, while Season 16 was decent but not great.

For me, Zombie Simpsons isn't "anything that's not the show's Golden Age", but rather when the show becomes completely unwatchable.

If seasons 1-10 are the show's "Golden Age" then I say seasons 11-13 are more of a "Silver Age" that isn't as good as the first ten seasons but is still enjoyable and far preferable to Zombie Simpsons.

Seasons 14-17 serve as this weird transition period that bridges the gap between "Silver Age" and "Zombie Simpsons", with the transition being fully completed around the time of Season 18 and the movie.

If I had to pick a specific point for the start of Zombie Simpsons, it'd be everything after the movie, as that's a good event as any to serve as a benchmark and specific moment to end the show on.

Or if you want a season to end on, Season 15 is a good season as any to call it quits. It's the last time the show is still mostly watchable, even if the decline is starting to truly become visible and anything after that can be safely dismissed.
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this is a thing i still think about despite it being a fools errand to determine what other people think, but i'll throw my hat in anyway: part of this is nostalgia and i'll admit it but I feel like the Zombie Simpsons thing is a dumb term, because I think the term should be something like Simpsons on Autopilot which is less cringy and more professional. i dont think the show dips into just continuing it for the sake of it until season 14. i feel if you stop at season 9, then you will miss out on a lot of good episodes and moments, but if you watch everything you will hate the show. so i feel we need a new term for that sort of weird transitional period from golden age to season 14's family guy clone style to the pre-movie and HD era forgettable gruel

I feel like Scully is underrated as a showrunner for introducing some iconic and funny bits into the show ("i'm indestructible", "sex sells", sneed's feed and seed, homer's makeup shotgun, mr X, johnny tightlips, lil bandit, the canyenaro, the entirety of natural born kissers) the problem is not that the show got unfunny in his era it's that he lowered the bar for writing on the show because all you had to do was be funny at all costs rather than building a tone and atmosphere. the guy wrote great episodes on the show, but it's a very small jump from him to Jean's era feeling more like a typical cartoon. the early jean episodes are watchable if youre nostalgic for 2000s cartoons like i am but i will admit theyre not good. only season 13 has enough funny bits to be included in my personal cutoff, basically whatever is pre-hit & run is worth watching just to get all the references lol. the thing that's kind of good about watching 1-13 is you see the characters all slowly evolve into their stereotypical iconic portrayals over thirteen years but after that they just stop and either dont evolve or actively devolve. Hit & Run was made at the exact right time to preserve this atmosphere of iconic simpsons

i think a big problem with Jean 2-era simpsons is just that they explain their own jokes. i rewatched the moment where bart and milhouse discover flander's beatles merch because i had a strong nostalgia for it and i was surprised how unfunny it was because they just wont stop talking about how good they like their own jokes. old simpsons for example would show the merch names as visual gags but in that clip they read everything out. very annoying, and that's season 14. which also includes marge having giant tits and marge becoming a bodybuilder and homer flying around on a skateboard fighting tony hawk. very family guy-esque. the movie was okay, but not tonally the same, and theres some good episodes within seasons 14+ but its pure copium to suggest there's not a large dropoff after 13, im just saying the dropoff after s9 isnt nearly as big as usually suggested but still there

anyone else a scully enjoyer? keep in mind im not saying theres not groaners in that era it's not consistent like the first eight seasons but i can still laugh at for example that dating video from the maude dies ep, even if i think the killing off of that character was so cynical, forced and hacky. whereas an old season wouldve actually tried to mine drama out of it

also speaking of hit & run i heard the reason why that game turned out so funny is because despite it being billed as being by the show's writers the game was written by one of the devs. like it makes sense, the game is consistently funnier than seasons 9-13 even if i like those and the game was made spack dab in the middle of that transition from simpsons writers believing this'll be the last few seasons to lets just keep this going because we're too iconic for fox to mercy kill us. that being said, another question i want to ask is how come futurama dropped off even quicker than classic simpsons did?
 
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I call seasons 1-8 kid gorgeous. then 9-13 kid presentable. then 14-20 kid gruesome. then 21-34 kid moe - speaking of which i saw the last twp mins of the newest episode. bart mentions nfts and the family get addicted to ipads. new renaissance everybody
 
"Hostile Kirk Place"
New, 3/12/2023, Season 34 / Episode 16 , Comedy, Animated, Situation Comedy
By embracing dangerous rhetoric, Kirk Van Houten becomes the sole arbiter of the school curriculum of Springfield Elementary, leading to a far darker future.
Credits: Dan Castellaneta (Voice Of), Julie Kavner (Voice Of), Nancy Cartwright (Voice Of), Yeardley Smith (Voice Of), Hank Azaria (Voice Of), Harry Shearer (Voice Of)
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This sounds like pozzed AF to me.
 
From The Uncanny Valley said:
HOW COULD THENEWJIMS LIE TO US???
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Hey Realjims is a good boi, he's probably the only legitimately good and respectable cartoon reviewer there is, considering how detailed his takes are and he doesn't paint himself as a genius or have any arrogance or weird ego. He's really just a guy who loves critiquing the Simpsons and thats It.
 
Travoltron said:
This sounds like pozzed AF to me.
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Reminds me of this trivia detail for The PTA Disbands:
The episode was written by Jennifer Crittenden. She came into the writers' room and pitched the idea that there should be a teachers' strike in an episode.[1] Then-show runner David Mirkin thought the episode had a lot of potential, and much of it is based on his experience as a child with schools running out of money.[2] Despite the title of the episode, at no point does the PTA (Parent-Teacher Association) actually disband. The title was suggested by Mirkin and was intended to poke fun at Crittenden, who thought the most exciting part of the teachers going on strike would be that the PTA might disband.[2] In addition to this, Mirkin added a character to the episode who, on thinking the PTA has disbanded, jumps panicking out of a window. He jumps back in the same window when he is told the PTA has not disbanded.[2]
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An episode about the school's reading material is somehow even more boring than the concept of the PTA disbanding.
 
I wonder which character will be written out of the show next considering the ‘Forced labour’ In China bullshit; I mean remember when Bart used to be a punk icon? What the fuck happened?
 
thegooddoctor said:
I wonder which character will be written out of the show next considering the ‘Forced labour’ In China bullshit; I mean remember when Bart used to be a punk icon? What the fuck happened?
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Bart was a little misogynist in the early seasons it was hilarious. also i was watching reruns today and caught two season 13 eps again: parent rap and homer the moe. parent rape made me chuckle a bit (im keeping that typo) in only the five minutes i saw of it but homer the moe wasnt funny at all except for the suicide which I had seen a clip of. low and behold the former is a scully era holdover. guess i might have to push back my defense of the post-classic era back a season
 
over in the wrassle world the legit son of Luke Perry, Jack Perry wrestles with the nickname of "Jungle Boy"
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it's uncanny how much he resembles his half-uncle in the hair department
 
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