The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

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Matter of fact, at least a fifth of all total Simpsons episodes can be broken down into rehashes of earlier stories that were only okay episodes on their own. Another one is the 'Bart meets girl' sub-genre.
I can let that off the hook to an extent. I think the episode where that premise really jumped the shark was the episode with Greta Wolfcastle, where the writers thought it would be a great idea to mix in Bart The Lover and make Bart a big fucking jerk than a dumb kid who will get into trouble and doesn't know the consequences for his actions than any normal kid would.

Infact, I've begun to realize how unrealistic The Simpsons is over the years and why the Golden Age holds up so well over the years. Because the writer's adage of "subverting happy crap with realistic things" had become the new "subverting expectations" pitfall since the show began to fall apart. I don't know Matt Groening's life and I don't know how life was like when he got out of school and onto the streets of LA, but the idea that people don't learn from their mistakes is an even bigger mistake that the show has made. All of The Simpsons falls apart later because while people are not perfect and will make mistakes, you would be absolutely fucking braindead if you were to repeat older ones exactly in the future. The uncanny valley of story telling in short, why the series is known to be a zombie series.

Lastly, despite how off radar South Park is to me these days and how weathered down its jabbing stick has degraded into but a crude stump, at least they maintain relevancy and keep introducing new characters as to the times and plan out its major character development by healthily stretching it out with good self reflection of what they put out.
 
Infact, I've begun to realize how unrealistic The Simpsons is over the years and why the Golden Age holds up so well over the years. Because the writer's adage of "subverting happy crap with realistic things" had become the new "subverting expectations" pitfall since the show began to fall apart. I don't know Matt Groening's life and I don't know how life was like when he got out of school and onto the streets of LA, but the idea that people don't learn from their mistakes is an even bigger mistake that the show has made. All of The Simpsons falls apart later because while people are not perfect and will make mistakes, you would be absolutely fucking braindead if you were to repeat older ones exactly in the future. The uncanny valley of story telling in short, why the series is known to be a zombie series.
Have you noticed that zombie Simpsons has meandering plotlines that finish too early, and then the remaining runtime is just padding? I sure have, I can't be the only one.
 
Have you noticed that zombie Simpsons has meandering plotlines that finish too early, and then the remaining runtime is just padding? I sure have, I can't be the only one.
You're not wrong. It always tends to be a lead in plot that has a premise that is more entertaining as a main plot or has longevity to act as a cohesive B plot, but it is always thrown away for the main plot at least several minutes in. I mean fuck, the golden age gets its name for a reason, there was like at least three to five B plots that worked cohesively with the main plot for its episodes. Nowadays, it's pathetically amateur that they can't even play in plots together harmoniously and coherently at that. Only some new episodes pull this off well, I can't say for others though.
 
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It's coming! Another terrible Simpsons musical episode is coming. Hide your family, hide under the covers yourself because this could be worse than the Lady Gaga episode.
Didn't the last crappy future episode make her a lesbian? Also fuck all these other future eps, Lisa's Wedding is the only future ep I'll need (one british love interest was enough too).
 
Have you noticed that zombie Simpsons has meandering plotlines that finish too early, and then the remaining runtime is just padding? I sure have, I can't be the only one.
I watched a few zombie Simpsons episodes recently and one thing I did notice was they started utilizing the Family Guy style overly long gags to pad out episodes like Conway Twitty or the nodding thing. Then again I hate those in general. i think the only funny use of that gag style is possibly this from American Dad!

 
Have you noticed that zombie Simpsons has meandering plotlines that finish too early, and then the remaining runtime is just padding? I sure have, I can't be the only one.
I think the only exception to this is the episode was Halloween of horror. Which even the most jaded of fans will admit was probably the best the show had done in years. The plot lines of Marge trying to take Bart trick or treating while Homer is being stalked by the pop up store employees he pissed off, while Lisa is clearly traumatized from a bad experience at a haunted amusement park. The narrative actually flows from one plot point to another and they all naturally come together in one at the very end.

Plus it's probably the best Lisa episode in YEARS. Because for once she's not written as some activist fighting for a cause but an actual 8 year old girl.

I often wonder if the episode was written years ago like maybe back during at least the shows late silver age, but was never made because tradition dictated that there be no Halloween themed episodes outside of the tree house of horror
 
I think the only exception to this is the episode was Halloween of horror. Which even the most jaded of fans will admit was probably the best the show had done in years. The plot lines of Marge trying to take Bart trick or treating while Homer is being stalked by the pop up store employees he pissed off, while Lisa is clearly traumatized from a bad experience at a haunted amusement park. The narrative actually flows from one plot point to another and they all naturally come together in one at the very end.

Plus it's probably the best Lisa episode in YEARS. Because for once she's not written as some activist fighting for a cause but an actual 8 year old girl.

I often wonder if the episode was written years ago like maybe back during at least the shows late silver age, but was never made because tradition dictated that there be no Halloween themed episodes outside of the tree house of horror
That may very well have been the case, that or maybe they finally realized "shit, people aren't paying attention to us, let's actually try for once then go back to being lazy shits when they aren't looking." I would accept either option at this point.
 
Well! I'm off to market! *burrrp! *

"Marge you're making a complete fool of yourself...oh it's just barney! "

*falls through the banister and knocks over a bottle of liquor*

"gasp precious alcohol! Soaking into shag! "

*starts licking it up then growling at the dog when he gets too close. *



As a kid I laughed at Barney making an ass of himself like that....as an adult struggling with my own alcohol demon....yeahhhh not so funny anymore
 
Well! I'm off to market! *burrrp! *

"Marge you're making a complete fool of yourself...oh it's just barney! "

*falls through the banister and knocks over a bottle of liquor*

"gasp precious alcohol! Soaking into shag! "

*starts licking it up then growling at the dog when he gets too close. *



As a kid I laughed at Barney making an ass of himself like that....as an adult struggling with my own alcohol demon....yeahhhh not so funny anymore
I like a drink sometimes (which we all know what's code for lol) and I still think that scene is so hilarious, i could watch it a million times in a row and still laugh my ass off lol
 
I often wonder if the episode was written years ago like maybe back during at least the shows late silver age, but was never made because tradition dictated that there be no Halloween themed episodes outside of the tree house of horror

It's not entirely impossible. It feels like it could've been one of the better scripts from Season 13 or even the awkward middle seasons (14-17) that were after the Silver Age but before the movie and Zombie Simpsons.

We do know sometimes rejected scripts get archived to be used at a later time.

The weaker episodes in King of the Hill's last few seasons were from scripts written in 2004 and 2005 around Season 8 and Season 9 but weren't actually produced until 2008 and 2009. The infamous Lost in MySpace episode is the most glaringly obvious example.
 
I often wonder if the episode was written years ago like maybe back during at least the shows late silver age, but was never made because tradition dictated that there be no Halloween themed episodes outside of the tree house of horror
I wouldn't be surprised if there might be more Simpsons unfilmed scripts written during the golden and silver ages that need to be discovered.
 
John Cleese mocks Hank Azaria’s Apu regrets by apologising to ‘white English people’

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John Cleese has mocked an apology by The Simpsons actor Hank Azaria, who voiced the controversial Apu character on the long-running series.

During a podcast appearance earlier this week, Azaria apologised for voicing the character, who has been accused of perpetuating harmful stereotypes about South Asian people. The history of racism that the character inspired was explored in a 2017 documentary titled The Problem with Apu.

“I was speaking at my son’s school, I was talking to the Indian kids there because I wanted to get their input,” Azaria said during Dax Shepard’s Armchair Expert podcast. “A 17-year-old ... he’s never even seen<em>The Simpsons</em> but knows what Apu means. It’s practically a slur at this point. All he knows is that this is how his people are thought of and represented to many people in this country. I really do apologise.”

Cleese appeared to reject the apology in a tweet, in which he sarcastically apologised for his own past work.

“Not wishing to be left behind by Hank Azaria, I would like to apologise on behalf on Monty Python for all the many sketches we did making fun of white English people,” Cleese tweeted.

The Fawlty Towers actor added: “We’re sorry for any distress we may have caused.”

In 2020, Cleese claimed that “political correctness” was stifling creativity in the comedy world.

“I would love to debate this with a ‘woke’,” Cleese said. “The first question I would say is, ‘Can you tell me a woke joke?’ I don’t know what a woke joke would be like other than very, very nice people being kind to each other. It might be heart-warming but it’s not going to be very funny.”

Azaria’s Simpsons character, the Indian shopkeeper Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, was quietly phased out of the show in 2016.

 
John Cleese mocks Hank Azaria’s Apu regrets by apologising to ‘white English people’

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John Cleese has mocked an apology by The Simpsons actor Hank Azaria, who voiced the controversial Apu character on the long-running series.

During a podcast appearance earlier this week, Azaria apologised for voicing the character, who has been accused of perpetuating harmful stereotypes about South Asian people. The history of racism that the character inspired was explored in a 2017 documentary titled The Problem with Apu.

“I was speaking at my son’s school, I was talking to the Indian kids there because I wanted to get their input,” Azaria said during Dax Shepard’s Armchair Expert podcast. “A 17-year-old ... he’s never even seen<em>The Simpsons</em> but knows what Apu means. It’s practically a slur at this point. All he knows is that this is how his people are thought of and represented to many people in this country. I really do apologise.”

Cleese appeared to reject the apology in a tweet, in which he sarcastically apologised for his own past work.

“Not wishing to be left behind by Hank Azaria, I would like to apologise on behalf on Monty Python for all the many sketches we did making fun of white English people,” Cleese tweeted.

The Fawlty Towers actor added: “We’re sorry for any distress we may have caused.”

In 2020, Cleese claimed that “political correctness” was stifling creativity in the comedy world.

“I would love to debate this with a ‘woke’,” Cleese said. “The first question I would say is, ‘Can you tell me a woke joke?’ I don’t know what a woke joke would be like other than very, very nice people being kind to each other. It might be heart-warming but it’s not going to be very funny.”

Azaria’s Simpsons character, the Indian shopkeeper Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, was quietly phased out of the show in 2016.

At least someone remembers humor.
 
My grandmother sometimes lamented that much of the entertainment, movies, music, cartoon characters she enjoyed were taken away/erased. I assume that must have happened during the civil rights movement. She always emphasized that it was utter nonsense and hysteria.

I'm afraid I can't remember specifics, but I know she had a "golliwog" doll that she thought was adorable. And she mentioned the Frito Bandito being taken away. That happened before I was born, but she didn't seem to realize that.

But I know how she feels now. She said nobody was offended at the time about these things. And yeah, I grew up with Apu and I never heard a peep about him being offensive. Not one article in any of the left-wing rags. Not one post on Usenet. Nobody had a problem with it until that one asshole made it a problem.
 
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