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The Mueller Report
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Well, it looks like we finally made it to the end of the line. To everyone who thought the Mueller report would drag on indefinitely: Take a sigh of relief. To everyone who thought the Mueller report would wind up resulting in impeachment proceedings: Sorry to disappoint, but that was never going to happen in the first place. In any event, we've made it to the end and somehow managed to avoid setting the country completely on fire, so that alone is worth a drink.

Seeing as how this is going to be THE most-spun political document since the fucking Clinton impeachment hearings, I'm not going to link to any articles about it. I don't care who has to say what about the Mueller report, be it FOX, MSNBC, CNN, or even smaller outlets like the Epoch Times. Everyone is going to spin this, so all I'm going to do is pore over the report and bring anything interesting to the fore, just like I did with the OIG Report on the Handling of the Clinton Email Investigation.

Yet again: The best advice I can offer is to read this yourself, but I don't expect everyone to do that because it's four-hundred fucking pages long. If you do not see a direct link to the information someone is quoting from this report so you can read the quote yourself, I'd advise disregarding it. If I do not directly quote something from the report and provide an easy way for you to look up the page for yourself, disregard it.

If you need an extremely-abridged TL;DR, I'll include one in the spoiler below. For everyone else: Buckle up, because I'm about to bore your fucking socks off.

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tehpope said:
Mueller is going to testify in front of the house committee on July 17. Also MuellerTime is trending on twitter.

And people still think Mueller still has one final play in his book to put Drumpf away forever.
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I have no doubt he is going to feed the Democrats all the lines they have wanted to hear about Trump obstructing the investigation, but then it's up to them to make use of those contrived bombshells, and I don't think they will be able to anything with them. If they start impeachment, it just mobilizes Trump's base for the next election.
 
I guess it's true what they say, even when you lose faith in your religion it's hard to give it up.
 
This time he'll really be our guy, guys.

When he goes to testify he'll pull out the true and honest report from his jacket that totally details Trump's connections to Russia, complete with pictures of Trump blowing Putin, plus a copy of the 'America Belongs to Russian Now' document signed by the president.
 
How could they possibly expect this to help them?
 
Ped Xing said:
How could they possibly expect this to help them?
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Well, they're planning to do what they usually do, have their loyal dogs in the media mine a couple of clips they can declare "prove" Trump is guilty and play absolutely nothing but those clips. They think this will help them convince voters, but it's not going to convince anybody but the people who are already well-programmed NPCs. Everyone else who actually watches it or sees more clips of it is going to get to see the Republicans absolutely eviscerating Mueller and dragging how incompetently and unethically his investigation was conducted into the light.

Essentially, they're expecting this to help them because they're somehow still living in a bubble that's already popped, that of the idea that having all the news outlets and social media management on their side means that they are guaranteed victory via control over the narrative. The fact that this has not helped them once since it failed them in the 2016 election doesn't seem to have sunk in. Their absolute best case scenario is that it's a completely lateral move that convinces no one and changes no one's minds, there is nothing above that for them and a whole lot below.
 
Ped Xing said:
How could they possibly expect this to help them?
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At this point they've so fucked themselves that they have nothing to lose.

With this Russia conspiracy the hole they dug is so deep they're not climbing out. They might as well keep digging and pray they reach China. If they don't keep at it they're fucked anyway.

It's the same reason these media and tech companies are acting increasingly desperate. They stand to lose a lot but all their credibility is already gone. In for a dime, in for a dollar.
 
If that's the most positive spin they could put on that PR disaster after all the hype, the Democrats really fucked up.
 
I'm listening to this shitshow on NPR. NPR talking heads are saying "well, if you DID read the report, you've heard nothing new . . . but if you haven't read it, you've heard some amazing stuff."

Really? Really? The report has been out since April, it's very publicly available thanks to the US government printing office, and everyone and their grandmother has a smartphone that can read .pdf files. I also keep hearing "but ackshually you CAN'T indict a sittting preident" when I remember in the Clinton years, when I was a wee one, hearing about Bill Clinton possibly being indicted for sexual harassment charages, since apparently he sexually assaulted a bunch of women. (JUDGEMENT = "believe wamman" EXCEPT IF "sitting president = Democrat")

I can't begin to say anything that anyone, especially HK47, hasn't already said much better.
 
It really is a shame that both parties have an interest in maintaining the "Russian interference" narrative to justify their push for censoring the internet because, imagine how embarrassing it would be for someone to bring up that a federal judge ruled that Mueller's assertion that the IRA was working on behalf of the Russian government (or that it had any impact on the election at all..) had no factual basis, and he could no longer claim as much publicly without opening himself up to legal action.

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I loved the part where Mueller said that he wasn't familiar with Fusion GPS even though Fusion GPS is in his fucking report. He doesn't want to go within 20 miles of that can of worms, though, so little so that they went well out of their way in the report to avoid ever mentioning Fusion GPS by name even though that firm might as well be the 800-pound gorilla in the room.
 
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I loved the part where Mueller said that he wasn't familiar with Fusion GPS even though Fusion GPS is in his fucking report. He doesn't want to go within 20 miles of that can of worms, though, so little so that they went well out of their way in the report to avoid ever mentioning Fusion GPS by name even though that firm might as well be the 800-pound gorilla in the room.
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To me it looked like he gave the testimony equivalent of breaking a couple plates so you're never asked to do the dishes again. Either he's a literal dementia case, or he didn't study the report at all before he was supposed to answer questions about it. He didn't want to be there, he didn't offer anything new, and seemed to actively shut down attempts to rope him into any additional investigations.
 
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The whole thing was a clown show. Mueller came off as a demented old man they just wheeled out of the nursing home. A few of the more cynical talking heads I listened to today were speculating that Mueller himself had very little to do with the final report and that it was written perhaps entirely by his aides. I'm inclined to believe that at this point.
 
Sounds like he was feigning ignorance, so as not to be complicit in the active fraud perpetrated on the FISA court.

The Meuller Report: A document that the supposed author won't stand behind, based on the Steele Dossier: A document that the supposed author won't stand behind.
 
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