The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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I almost wonder if that's some kind of KDE gesture crap that's getting enabled.

I'll tell ya this much: I never had this type of problem with my mouse cursor hanging between the boundaries of my monitors (however briefly) on Plasma 5. Both Plasma 6, Xorg and Wayland, have this issue. MAYBE it's a gesture, God only knows how fucking horrifically bloated KDE historically was and how much that skyrocketed with the advent of Plasma 6. The Plasma team also fucking sucks at fixing regressions. It's like every new goddamn version of Plasma 6 that comes out, there has to be eleventy bazillion new doodads and shiny things to fiddle with... and then all the shit that used to work flawlessly still languishes in goddamn mediocrity. I've been skulking their bug tracker for the last year and a half. Plasma 6.6, to this point, doesn't reproduce the artifacting and the login segfault that I had on 6.4 and 6.5, but I'm definitely not giving them any fucking praise for that because the segfaults should've first and foremost, never happened from the get-go, and secondly: there's still an assload of extant regressions on their goddamn bug tracker that haven't been fixed since Plasma 6.0 and arguably won't ever get fixed. It's Cinnamon, MATE+Compiz, or XFCE for me going forward man.

I will be submitting an invoice to Red Hat for my shilling posthaste.

Careful. They'll say your invoice is an invalid use case and then bill you double for allegedly wasting their time.
 
That’s an almost perfect use case for a Flatpak…just saying.

Oh yes, I definitely hear what you're saying. Having said that: ALMOST =/= definitely, you goddamn retard. Flatpaks are the binary packaging choice of the untermensch, among which, you most certainly are. Let's say that Sumatra somehow gets a Wine Flatpak (if such a thing is even remotely possible). It'll run really nice and smooth... and then the runtime on Flathub goes kaput like two years after the binary's published, the Fedora Flatpak edition would not have the deprecated runtime issue, but it would still shit the fucking bed because Fedora Flatpaks have piss-poor QA (re: how badly they fucked up OBS's Flatpak).
 
Flatpaks are the binary packaging choice of the untermensch

Due to recent events I’d say that would in fact be the AUR.

Let's say that Sumatra somehow gets a Wine Flatpak

I was referring to Okular

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then the runtime on Flathub goes kaput like two years after the binary's published

Yeah, I’m sure one of the most popular KDE apps is never going to be updated in one of the most popular Linux repos and just rot away.
 
Due to recent events I’d say that would in fact be the AUR.

Wrong again, retard. The AUR itself is not a singular package, let alone a packaging format. It's a collection of user-hosted build scripts that ultimately terminate in a finished pkg.tar.zst file... y'know the actual format that Arch uses.

Yeah, I’m sure one of the most popular KDE apps is never going to be updated in one of the most popular Linux repos and just rot away.

That's precisely what happens whenever old tools get supplanted by newer, shinier doodads you fucking moron. Linux is absolutely fucking horrendous with long-term ABI compatibility, and Flatpak does NOTHING to solve the long-term ABI compatibility problem.

I was referring to Okular

No, you were not explicitly referring to Okular. You just responded to Braille Guy's recommendation for Okular (ON WINDOWS) and Sumatra (ON LINUX). You said, and I quote: "That’s an almost perfect use case for a Flatpak…just saying." Where the fuck did you specify Okular in that statement? On its surface, Flatpak = Linux, Braille Guy said Sumatra for Linux.

Even if you explicitly stated Okular, your premise is still fundamentally wrong because PLASMA FLATPAKS STILL HAVE RUNTIME ENVIRONMENTS TOO, YOU GIBBERING, DROOLING MONGOLOID WITH A SLOPING FOREHEAD. Flatpak runtimes aren't just exclusive to GTK2+GTK3+GTK4. There's also the matter of Qt runtimes that ultimately get deprecated on Flathub (re: the preferred Flatpak repository). Qt3, Qt4, and Qt5 (to my knowledge) either never once existed on Flathub, or if they did, they fell out of favour long ago because Plasma 6 with Qt6 is here.
 
This often means the software selection in Debian tends to run on the older side of the spectrum. Backported packages, Flatpaks, and AppImages all exist, but they're "layered on top," so-to-speak.
The LTS distro issue is solved by Nix and Guix. If you want up to date packages on a non-rolling distro Nix & Guix integration is easy as pie, has more packages than you'll ever reasonably need, and works out of the box on any systemdalit os (and GuixSD, of course). Though, it might be worth keeping an eye on the ever-increasing nixpkgs collection given what is happening to the AUR right now.
 
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