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just searched the word "jugaad" and came up with some fucking unhinged life hacks lol
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gonna search some more stuff on some more sites to find some more of them.

heres a video i found showing some jugaad
 
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AltisticRight said:
So it's really just something that's similar to what East Asia has and vanishes once communities get rich enough?
You're gonna get negrated to shit but I'm actually quite interested. I'm too chickenshit to go and ask my Indian friends.
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yes, as societies develop it slowly vanishes, a clear example is the japanese honor system which is just Izzat but on steroids and still exists in a very cruel way even in the urban population sadly, remember "u bring shame to famiry" memes? yeah its the same thing

Fcret said:
It's funny how he tries to disprove ideas about izzat by... immediately claiming that Nool's ancestors are peasants lacking karma.

Sorry brown boy, but being the son of peasants isn't a bad thing for white people. The first shall be last, and the last shall be first. Your incoherent screed marks you as a backwards, demon worshiping savage.
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lmao seething whitoid coping with jesus quotes while your ancestors were full izzat-mode barbarians, medieval uros dueling to death over a side eye, scottish clans blood-feuding for centuries over stolen cows, southern crackers shooting neighbors over "muh family name" (hello honor killings but with banjos)... italian vendettas wiping villages for a whisper, viking holmgangs killing for disrespect
 
I'd argue that the basic concept of Izzat is a very fundamentally North Indian one. It's not really a thing in the Dravidian-speaking parts of the region.

North India and Pakistan are regions that have spent the better part of the past two thousand years or so being convulsed by repeated, pointless petty wars between local maharajas and clans and castes and jatis and the odd soulless steppechimp coming in to scourge the earth for no particular reason. The soil and farms aren't even especially good, pretty much every single essential resource in the region has been drained by five thousand years of high-intensity agriculture. In places like this, you need to bind yourself to people with the same clan/jati/caste/race/religion/ethnicity, because there's so much at stake. On account of this, essentially every single human grouping category you could feasibly imagine existing in the real world exists in India, simply because North Indians are the people for whom these categories serve the greatest utility.

Southern India, meanwhile, is in general either much more cosmopolitan or so underdeveloped that this kind of system of clan-honor doesn't really have any use. Places like the southern Deccan and Gondwana are dominated by tropical forest, and so the people there just rely on a basic tribal schema of societal organization. Places like Tamil Nadu and Kerala, meanwhile, though they always had large populations of subsistence farmers, also always had an enormous population of merchants and traders and such. This goes back thousands of years. It permitted them to have remarkable wealth and stability in the face of spergy Northoid chimping. In a way they're like swarthier, less neurotic, more gooner Jews. It also means they don't have need for something like Izzat, because society could be organized along the lines of wealth instead of some kind of abstract notion of familial honor.
AltisticRight said:
Didn't a Dalit man get beaten to death for wearing sunglasses?
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Yeah. I will never understand why pseuds on the internet shit on Dalits of all people. The guys swarming into places like Canada aren't impoverished tanners guarding their daughters from rapist higher castemen, they're mid-caste Kshatriyas and Shudra and even Brahmins who have the means to fuck off to the West. Dalits are literally bondslaves, and many of them are to Christianity and Islam and Buddhism. The people shitting on you (heh) on Xwitter threads and on 4chan or whatever aren't Dalits, they're mid-Castes. Dalits, on account of the fact that they suffer the most on account of Indian society's incredibly retarded social system are often the ones who fight back against it the hardest. I really doubt any of you have ever heard of B. R. Ambedkar, but he was a Dalit politican whose entire ideological conceit was the ruthless extermination of caste and Izzat as concepts. He wanted to do this through Marxism, which I think is retarded, but then against look what communism did for China's system of inept social organization. Point being that Dalits get a bad rap around here for literally no reason.

This is just a personal belief, but I think one of the reasons a lot of Indians are so dysgenic is because any good, strong, eugenic individuals from untouchable or Shudra backgrounds were prevented by societal custom from ever actually being able to propagate in any meaningful way.

IndigoDownSuperEgoUp said:
What about the Izzat of the dregs and mutants of indian society, such as Aghoris? Do they brutally enforce anything truly bizarre?
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Aghoris and radical Tantric Hindus have their own endogamous system of Izzat. Their whole thing is being so utterly repulsive and outside the bonds of human dignity that they loop back around to the divine perfection of Brahma, which is the universal divine consciousness that Hindus worship. It's weird and pointless but endlessly striving to become filthier isn't really any dumber than endlessly striving to become purer, like mainline Hindus.
Sperghetti said:
The author made a really good point that so many people think of culture as being just the superficial stuff like food and holidays and table manners, and assume that beyond that, everyone kind of thinks and feels the same way about life.
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Very salient. Middle Eastern Islamic societies also have a system of Izzat, but it's much more gendered and not so reliant on caste dynamics the way South Asian Izzat is.

Arabs and Muslims treat women as a whole as a kind of internal enemy. This is why Muslim guys in the west are allowed to fuck local women and still get married, whereas if a woman fucks Timmy from down the street you might need to open her throat.

Muslim-European cultural dynamics are more interesting than Jeet-Eurangutan ones tbh
cyberdick said:
It's poverty + low-trust + cousin-marriage brain, not some mystical desi superpower. Urban Indians under 40 don't give a flying fuck about "izzat" unless gramps is still swinging his lathi in the village.
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The original post has a lot of sub-100 IQ /pol/ orientalism ("muh brownpipo have this secret concept underlying their society read this poast to know") but It'd argue that Izzat still has some kind of staying power in Indian society even if it's not really being consciously enforced. It's like how people in Finland or Norway are still in every meaningful cultural way Lutherans, even when they don't have strong opinions about the Papacy.
 
Lasagna4Dead said:
just searched the word "jugaad" and came up with some fucking unhinged life hacks lol
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gonna search some more stuff on some more sites to find some more of them.
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Jugaad means "peasant lifehack" of sorts among the Indian youth. I think all religious/cultural connections to the word is long lost.
Our equivalent term would be "redneck ingenuity".
I don't think that's unhinged, the jeet overclocked his bug zapper and even made it so it doesn't use shitty AAA batteries. That's Jugaad for you. I think it's pretty cool, actually.

If you think that's unhinged, then what is this?

cyberdick said:
yes, as societies develop it slowly vanishes, a clear example is the japanese honor system which is just Izzat but on steroids and still exists in a very cruel way even in the urban population sadly, remember "u bring shame to famiry" memes? yeah its the same thing
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I guess it's good to know that I won't be hacked to pieces by Indian coworkers to boost their Izzat because I had to correct their shitty documents. :lol:

SAAAAR EACH TRACK CHANGE YOU MAKE I CHOP YOU ONCE WITH MY KNIFE SARRR I NEED MY IZZAT BACK YOU WILL BE REDEEEMED YIS
 
Pseudo Apollodorus said:
I'd argue that the basic concept of Izzat is a very fundamentally North Indian one. It's not really a thing in the Dravidian-speaking parts of the region.
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Southern India does better than Northern India and very few of them even migrate to the west so in a weird way its kinda irrelevant from the western perspective. Hell, even when playing Pindia one trick is to drop into the far south of India as they litter significantly less.

Thinking about Izzat, its kinda funny how the most "honor" obsessed part of India sold out the hardest to the British. Southern India was a patchwork of small landowners and was taxed as such. Meanwhile, Northern India with its vast peasant estates from centuries of empires and invaders found itself the most exploited with its landlord class (of Indians) overtaxing their people and even inducing famines just to sell a little bit more cotton and opium to the British masters and build taller personal palaces to acquire more imaginary Izzat points.

(I learned this from the Vicky3 India DLC, I am not Indian).
 
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cyberdick said:
yes, as societies develop it slowly vanishes, a clear example is the japanese honor system which is just Izzat but on steroids and still exists in a very cruel way even in the urban population sadly, remember "u bring shame to famiry" memes? yeah its the same thing


lmao seething whitoid coping with jesus quotes while your ancestors were full izzat-mode barbarians, medieval uros dueling to death over a side eye, scottish clans blood-feuding for centuries over stolen cows, southern crackers shooting neighbors over "muh family name" (hello honor killings but with banjos)... italian vendettas wiping villages for a whisper, viking holmgangs killing for disrespect
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Kill your self Pajeet.
 
cyberdick said:
what a load of bullshit lmao. Its almost directly translates to Reputation in english. every culture has it when they're poor and tribal.

Its almost all gone in majority of india except some villages who are run by families and they obsessed with their family reputation/honor. Ever heard of honor killings? its the same everywhere, mudslimes hindoos xtians

It's poverty + low-trust + cousin-marriage brain, not some mystical desi superpower. Urban Indians under 40 don't give a flying fuck about "izzat" unless gramps is still swinging his lathi in the village.

retard read one 4chan greentext and thinks he cracked the hindoo code and null eating this shit up is peak retard
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Urban Indians still believe there is a god somewhere in the anus of a cow and that a puddle of their piss is the equivalent of holy water.

To think that they believe in this is not that far-fetched.
 
>Dear feeder talks about the weird muzzie-like jeet honor culture
>site immediately goes offline
Timmycels... we got too cocky... our sisters' onlyfans just got exposed...
 
AltisticRight said:
This was horrifying to read. So the very foundations of their society is nothing but collective punishment and collective honour?
If I read all of this right, if say a Dalit man questions a Brahmin man's work: this wasn't just an affront to the Brahmin's abilities, it's an affront to his honour as a person and the honour of his entire caste. If he concedes, he's losing large chunks of Izzat for his entire caste, while the Dalit questioning him doesn't really gain anything. He's not benefiting from questioning someone's work, there's no transaction here. In order to gain this Izzat back, or even get more out it, the group is incentivised to avenge with the utmost brutality imaginable.
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I'll add that you should read some of Nirad Choudhari's work. He is one of the most accessible writers on Indian cultural aspects as he purposefully wrote in English. I know I keep bringing him up but still.

He never mentions "izzat" outright but after reading the explanation there you can see how it makes some of his writings make sense. Especially when he writes about certain interactions with family and others. One that sticks out is that there was some issue out in the countryside and one of his father's distant relatives was taking a canoe downriver for something. Some rainstorm happens while within sight of another family's properties he drowns in the river and dies despite being fully capable of making it to shore there and getting aid from this other family. As opposed to losing the canoe and his goods but at least living to make it back home and trying agin. Which would be the expected result in any Western nation.

His remaining family praised him for this in death because they always thought he was a midwit. But he at least had enough sense to proudly drown in the river rather than seek aid from that other family. That this positively must be an "izzat" thing makes it far easier to understand. Again note that Choudhari never once tries to explain this in any detail because it would be akin to explaining breathing. So ingrained in society that not acting this way would simply be preposterous.
 
AltisticRight said:
And conversely this is why some of the Christian Indians I met seemed so nice. I heard that converting to Christianity or another religion (like Islam) frees the person from their caste. This means they no longer have to play this insane game of virtual currency gain.
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Culture is the expression of biology. I wouldn't trust jeet Christians more or less than any other jeet.
Slap47 said:
"Face" may very well be a good direct comparison as the term comes from Chinese culture that also has the concept of collective honor and collective punishment. This is part of why North Korea kills entire families as punishments for crime - because that is traditionally what East-Asians have done.

Although the Indian version seems far more superficial and retarded.... which generally applies to most Indian things.
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I think collective tribal honour is something you can see play out in all of human history. But as you said, the indian version is more superficial and retarded compared to even something like Face in china. Because Chinese are generally less retarded than indians.
 
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