The India Menace - Street shitting, unsanitary practices, scams, Hindu extremism & other things

[Radola Gajda]

Spoiler: Pictures

This is 9/11 for pajeets online

 

[Thinspirational faggot]

I'm glad I could help you in your understanding. If you want to find more academic sources on the concept of Izzat, you need to search for 'honour culture' or 'honour culture south east asia', honour culture being the more formal academic term for the Izzat phenomena. You'll find a lot of results for honour killing (practiced in order to restore Izzat).

One of the subtleties to keep in mind about this topic is that it's about a system. Indians may claim 'not all Indians' as a quick deflection, but that's not the point. The point is this system exists and it's had real, serious consequences for generations. If it wasn't a real phenomena in Indian society, Izzat wouldn't exist as a term.

Yeah, face is an excellent translation of the idea. But I feel that calling it Izzat creates a much stronger impression of the concept. Either way works.

Is izzat related to the arabic izza(عزة) ؟

The arabic term is defined as such:

"" العزة: التأبي عن حمل المذلة، وقيل: الترفع عما تلحقه غضاضة""
"The refusal to carry Humiliation, being above Deficiency or flaw"

"" العزة: حالةٌ مانعة للإنسان من أن يغلب""
"is The inability to lose or be defeated"

"العزة صفة تفيد حصول الفوقية والغلبة"
"Being superior and victorious"

I also noticed that izzat seem common in Pakistan, Bangladesh and northern India (heavily Islamized regions)

 

[Thomas Talus]

Hi. I didn't see this term mentioned in the thread, so I wanted to share this all with you. It's about Izzat. Some posts have mentioned 'saving face', which is Izzat, but I wanted to elaborate on it.

Izzat so?

 

[A pig by Jove!]

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I guess they invented time travel over in Bangladesh. Leave it to a sub-90 IQ jeet to bungle something as simple as an edit.

 

[X Prime]

You could absolutely weaponize Izzat against Indians. You see, in Izzat, the issue only happens when an Indian is exposed. Scamming someone and getting away with it is righteous. Being caught or having your jugaad exposed is unrighteous. Merely pointing out bad behaviour or criticizing them is seen as an attack on their Izzat.

It's fascinating how similar this is to Chinese face, yet the differences are important.

Examples are the stories in Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Dragon. One of these in fact involved a hotel manager attempting to gaslight the author about a water pipe totally being okay, a consensus reality thing. Another involved a Chinese emperor being told one of his vases was fake, at which point he said a copy means can be just as good as the genuine article. It's okay to cheat, lie, and steal so long as you don't get caught; it's the sucker's fault for being scammed.

From stuff like this I really do think most of these Asian cultures are just incompatible with high-trust Western morality and the prosperous societies that come with that.

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

Two people get into an argument. They might escalate, but chances are it won't be that bad. i.e. 'Sorry I broke your garden gnome.' With two Indians in an argument, the stakes are always deadly thanks to Izzat. Neither of them can back down, nor can they admit fault. Admitting fault is seen as deliberately humiliating yourself. Not only that, but because Izzat is shared, you are shaming everyone who shares your Izzat. So, admitting fault or taking responsibility for a problem is a form of social suicide. This means even if the dispute was over something completely fucking stupid or trivial (like a broken garden gnome), it could spiral into a decades long honour feud.

Very interesting. So what would be the best way to humiliate somebody under Izzat?

• Disgust - (@Indian streetfood, eating cown dung etc.)
• Shame - (ie: 3" is too small, you shit in the street)
• Demoralization - (India will never be a super power, You will never be white.)
• Disbelief/Pretend Ignorance- (ie: "Yeah, I don't believe you about tech / politics thing. Are you sure you know what you're talking about?" / Kitbooga),
• "turn the other cheek / go the extra mile" - (ie: "(Indian) Boss, you told me to hire exlusively H1B visas from India, so I made sure to get hard working Christians and Muslims who will actually do the job instead of Hindoos with fraudulent diplomas." )

I'm sure there's plenty of other ways, but what is most effective against IRL Indians I would encounter?

 

[Man vs persistent rats]

I also noticed that izzat seem common in Pakistan, Bangladesh and northern India (heavily Islamized regions)

Honour-killing being the delightful cultural artefact the west has to deal with in this regard.

 

[Paper Machete]

That's a lot of words for yet another brownoid hoard who goes on about "muh respek" where "respek" is just retarded rules nobody who matters cares about.

 

[The Dude]

Izzat so?

Izzat supposed to be some kinda joke, smartass?

 

[Sperghetti]

Izzat has no direct translation into English. We only have terms that can broach the same concept such as 'honour' or 'reputation' or 'face'. Izzat is so much more than that. It's a zero-sum game of collective honour shared by whole groups of people, all of whom take it very, very seriously. A system like this isn't just foreign to Enlightenment values, but I'd argue it's antithetical to every sensible form of governance on the planet. It will destroy any system that assumes good faith.

Of course, I could be wrong in my understanding of Izzat, but I think what makes this so compelling is that everybody here can see the Izzat pattern running underneath every interaction or story about Indians. It ties everything together. I've seen a lot of words like nepotism, cronyism, ethnic stacking, cheating, scamming, fraud, but Izzat is what explains it all.

There’s a book I read a while back called While Europe Slept, about the situation with muslim immigrants in Western Europe. The author made a really good point that so many people think of culture as being just the superficial stuff like food and holidays and table manners, and assume that beyond that, everyone kind of thinks and feels the same way about life. Which is why they struggle to understand why islamic terrorism happens.

Same thing here. This is not a surface-level difference, between this izzat concept and the idea of caste, Indian culture has a different way of viewing social interactions than western culture does, on a very, very fundamental level.

Now, a counterargument an Indian might make is 'Izzat is a dated word' or 'We don't use that word.'

It’s like the caste system, where criticism sometimes gets dismissed as “that’s illegal, we don’t do that anymore”. Okay, sure, whatever, but the idea that some people are just born to be subservient to others and can’t do anything about that while others are born to be served is still a very integral part of the average Indian’s worldview. "That's banned" does not get rid of it.

 

[Slap47]

Yeah, face is an excellent translation of the idea. But I feel that calling it Izzat creates a much stronger impression of the concept. Either way works.

Honestly, Izzat and Face are very similar, but the biggest difference is how they react to such dishonor.

Chinese city is polluted -> Massive shame from west -> Massive cleanup effort followed by propaganda campaign -> City is slightly cleaner and people have better air

Indian city is polluted -> Massive shame from west -> AI generated Homer Simpson pornography insulting white people -> City is still polluted shithole.

Indian honor culture is much less constructive.

 

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Forget sending weapons to Ukraine, we ought to be arming these elephants!

 

[Sooty Soot]

AI generated Homer Simpson pornography insulting white people

Brahmin ingenuity, ytpipo wouldn't get it due to their inferior sense of humor.

 

[The Dude]

Forget sending weapons to Ukraine, we ought to be arming these elephants!

Saar! Please to be not forgetting the brave and brilliant military of India has redeemed camel technicals, saar! How can the elephants wit vveapons be hoping to stand against the genius might and elite human capital of the Indian military wit camel technicals, saar! It is not happenings, I say!

They are even beings the camelflauged for redeemings the sneakings of the elephants, saar!

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Saar! Please to be not forgetting the brave and brilliant military of India has redeemed camel technicals, saar! How can the elephants wit vveapons be hoping to stand against the genius might and elite human capital of the Indian military wit camel technicals, saar! It is not happenings, I say!

They are even beings the camelflauged for redeemings the sneakings of the elephants, saar!

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Actually if you engaged in Long Range reconnaissance and you're trying to not leave that much of a footprint I could see where cameras would be useful

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

lol it's so funny that Izzat is a jeet thing because they hate muzzies and muzzies have almost the same concept with their weird honor culture, but without the whole caste aspect. In Yurop you only see this kind of behavior and this weird obsession with personal and collective honor (outside of thirdie invaders squatting and collecting welfare of course) in Albania.
I wouldn't be surprised if Izzat is a holdover from when they got buckbroken by multiple muzzie tribes across the centuries (the Mughals weren't the only ones btw).

 

[Krusty Rage]

Hi. I didn't see this term mentioned in the thread, so I wanted to share this all with you. It's about Izzat. Some posts have mentioned 'saving face', which is Izzat, but I wanted to elaborate on it.

This is a Taqiyya (muslims lying) level of revelation for me. Muslims are instructed to lie and pajeets are instructed to be racist. It completely explains why people from the country who invented the word "karma" would be so misbehaved.

 

[Eventide]

There’s a book I read a while back called While Europe Slept, about the situation with muslim immigrants in Western Europe. The author made a really good point that so many people think of culture as being just the superficial stuff like food and holidays and table manners, and assume that beyond that, everyone kind of thinks and feels the same way about life. Which is why they struggle to understand why islamic terrorism happens.

There's a book in similar vein of "While Europe Slept" that you should check out (if you haven't already) - Unveiling Islam: An Insider Look at Muslim Life and Beliefs by Ergun and Emir M. Caner. The authors were raised Muslim, but converted to Christianity/became devout Christian scholars. It goes into what Muslim immigrants are taught theologically (in mosque) while in Europe/the West & why Islam is more of a radical political ideology than something comparable to the Christian faith. It even delves into a lot of the popular/frequently taught hadiths/suras,

Surah Al-Baqarah - 191-193

Kill them wherever you come upon them 1 and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution 2 is far worse than killing.

NOTE: Islam thinks that the entire ancient world was actually created believing in Islam by Allah, and all non-Muslim territories (like North America or Australia) drove Muslims out/erased the true history of the world (like, TikTokers who believe in the Tartarian mudflood). So this surah is ordering Muslims to go into non Muslims countries & drive the native populations out/persecute & subjugate them while doing so.

 

[BigMan13]

[...] Jugaad as a term also warrants more explanation, but my post is long enough as it is.

This is very fascinating and makes a lot of sense. This whole thing may be another case of a phenomenon of people falsely believing abstractions rule over life; seems to have developed independently of one-another many times.

remember that it's a feature of Izzat, not a bug

I've seen AI (pattern-programs) use this phrase countless times. If this actually was written with pattern-programs, I'd just be disappointed.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

There’s a book I read a while back called While Europe Slept, about the situation with muslim immigrants in Western Europe. The author made a really good point that so many people think of culture as being just the superficial stuff like food and holidays and table manners, and assume that beyond that, everyone kind of thinks and feels the same way about life. Which is why they struggle to understand why islamic terrorism happens.

Same thing here. This is not a surface-level difference, between this izzat concept and the idea of caste, Indian culture has a different way of viewing social interactions than western culture does, on a very, very fundamental level.

This. Most dipshit Western LEFTISTS and liberals literally think everyone is like they are besides skin color and some cute holiday traditions and if COURSE eating food at a table together with mí abuelá like their Latinx roommate at Brown talked about constantly.

They have no fucking idea how a honor/shame or machismo culture works, how a culture of mass illiteracy and theft/scamming works, or a culture that practices FGM and child marriages actually works. They just vote and volunteer to import those people here.