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Posting some stuff I found interesting. https://www.ifpindia.org/bookstore/wild-craft/
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Giant wooden cargo ships that braved the oceans for thousands of years are still being made in the South Indian state of Tamil Nadu. Even as metal motorised ships became the norm, some shoreline communities in South India continue to craft this wooden cargo ship. In a blend of reason, creativity and hard work the communities engineered their past to forge a future. This book traces the transition of this tradition over time.


The authors have created a photo documentation using hundreds of images that capture the shipyard’s atmosphere to offer a narrative and the manufacture of these ships at each step of their construction. It analyzes the conditions of their economic viability and how it has evolved over time. Through visual anthropology this book offers a narrative of wooden cargo ship building and craftsmanship in south Asia.
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https://archive.ph/mS9yB / Water Johads: A Low-Tech Alternative to Mega-Dams in India
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https://archive.ph/PivJx / Ancient ‘air-conditioning’ cools building sustainably
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Vibromatic Heart Bed said:
Why do you think Indian Americans rather their kids learn only traditional Indian music? I can't imagine moving to a new country and not learning about their art/culture, especially if they were gracious enough to take me in. So why the resistance to expanding your musical horizons? Does it come from an attitude of "indian music is better than white music" (lmfao) ?

In western culture it's commonplace for kids to take music lessons, whether that's piano or guitar or band camp. Music is known to help brain development, makes you better at math, develops your work ethic, etc. For a culture that's so obsessed with tutoring and getting straight A's, it's weird to me that indians don't push their kids into music lessons. it would benefit your "offspring" so much more than your insane Kumon lessons and rote memorization.

So far a whole ONE artist (Ravi Shankar) has emerged from India, cool! lmao
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Asian parents are known for forcing their children to pick up sports and arts, so the musical art that stands out the most to the Indian parent is kind of naturally their own, which would be more familiar to them (additionally, since Indians tend to stick together - not particularly good for assimilation and integrating into the host country, I must admit - a parent might find it easier to enrol their child into Indian traditional music lessons through a friend of a friend). I don't think it arises from any notions of superiority - just a desire to stay close to the parent culture, I suppose.

I won't pretend to know everything about why Indians do certain things, but that's what I reckon, at least. I also mentioned in an earlier comment about how Indians who have recently (in the past 3-4 decades) settled abroad tend to maintain close contact with India and their family here - and many often come back later on, after working abroad for 10-20 years. You could probably label this close-mindedness and a failure to integrate, but for whatever reason, Indians tend to favour their own culture.
quaawaa said:
No, it's because the British taught you how to farm.
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India has been overpopulated for millennia. If you really want to credit someone for India's population, you can thank Norman Borlaug and the Green Revolution of the '60s.
 
quaawaa said:
No, it's because the British taught you how to farm.
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This was far worse.


The Green Revolution was a period that began in the 1960s during which agriculture in India was converted into a modern industrial system by the adoption of technology, such as the use of high yielding variety (HYV) seeds, mechanized farm tools, irrigation facilities, pesticides, and fertilizers. Mainly led by agricultural scientist M. S. Swaminathan in India, this period was part of the larger Green Revolution endeavor initiated by Norman Borlaug
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Shalalallah Akbar said:
The reason India's population is so high is because of those very river systems.
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The rivers allow for life and growth. The growth itself is however chaotic and destructive.
Shalalallah Akbar said:
Might I remind you that only a century ago, most European countries had fertility rates of 3 to 4, and that most of your grandparents had several siblings
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Yes but Europe has always had a different approach to managing that growth. The families were and in many places still are close knit and cooperative. However you appear to lack the understanding of what "community" means to an European.
Historically European farmers in many nations who had free farmers would band into agrarian cooperatives, combining their agricultural potentials for more sustainable growth.
In agrarian communities and many cities the communal aspect of European culture is exhibited in for example the way an apartment building would have residential councils and cooperatives where the residents would have a communal resource pool for keeping the roofing secure and maintained, for deratization and general pest control, for the upkeep of storage facilities like garages and basements, for cleaning and securing roads during winter. And to build upon that concept an apartment block would band together to keep their green areas and communal parks and playgrounds clean and maintained.
Villages would install a water distribution system that would be communally maintained in order to ensure all farmers get their share of water. The examples are myriad and diverse but omnipresent from Eastern to Western Europe.

Whatever "community" might mean in India I fail to see it's productive value. Most likely because it stems from a culturally broken prism that makes it a sort of subsistence community that is flawed and undeveloped, more importantly it builds on the inherent values of the Indian man. A house is only as good as its building material. India in that regards appears to be severely lacking.
Shalalallah Akbar said:
This is categorically false
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In it's totality. Yes.
However here, let's make a comparison. The railway network map from colonial India in 1909 as opposed to the modern one. The differences are negligent. 1736013259804.png 1736013287901.png
Shalalallah Akbar said:
But I'll list some anyway: the Golden Temple in Punjab, the Hawa Mahal in Rajasthan, the Sun Temple in Gujarat and the Meenakshi Temple in Tamil Nadu.
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Other than the Hawa Mahal I'm well aware of the other ones, the thing is they fall into that rough category of not 500 years old and vaguely modern.
Shalalallah Akbar said:
China succeeded in spite of this and their Cultural Revolution
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China succeeded in part because of the same revolution.
Sure it obliterated many aspects of traditional China, but it was their internal matter, and it allowed them to root out many of their backwards cultural facets, providing a clean slate for growth and modernization, not just of technology but of their own culture as well.
More importantly China succeeds in comparison to India because of their epigenetic fundament as well as racial and cultural differences.

Observe. Side by side we will compare the capital cities, an important costal port city, an interior city, villages and food stands. Somehow I feel I won't need to point out which is China and which is India.
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Do you notice anything in particular?
 
the other thing china (and korea up until recently) have is no history of allowing internal migration freely. whereas india's "urbanization" was just slumming cities already on the brink with huge populations in the 1970s.
 
Good morning saar. Indian engineer work very hard and is very smart saar. No need for toilet at all so no oversleeping. Always on time for the Microsoft Google CEO job saar.

 
Pure Autism said:
The growth itself is however chaotic and destructive.
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The growth has seen the rise and fall of empires native and foreign with little development to the actual area. The British are a fine example of this exploitation in how they forced farms to grow cash crops, and exported food away from the country during famines. I stand by my original statement in that the reason the country sucks so much is because it has seen poverty worse than any other nation save sub-Saharan African ones.
Pure Autism said:
The examples are myriad and diverse but omnipresent from Eastern to Western Europe.
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Being a bugman city dweller with little knowledge of domestic practices (I never studied Indian history in school, so my knowledge is rather lacking - something I will fix once I get the time to) I cannot exactly comment on examples of Indian community in that regard. But to write off entire cultures because of superficial observations is rather immature.
Pure Autism said:
However here, let's make a comparison. The railway network map from colonial India in 1909 as opposed to the modern one. The differences are negligent.1736013259804.png1736013287901.png
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I have provided quantitative evidence that India has expanded its rail network by over 70% in terms of length (and - seeing as I didn't mention it earlier - has electrified 97% of rail lines). And the two pictures are hardly easy to compare given how one is much more crowded in terms of details than the other.
Pure Autism said:
the thing is they fall into that rough category of not 500 years old and vaguely modern.
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Is that not what you wanted?
Pure Autism said:
The Taj Mahal and the Red Fort, arguably one of the only "modern" monuments of any relevance built in the past 500 years were built by Turco-Mongol Muslims. And so are most "Indian" monuments of any modernity built by the Muslims who conquered Northern India.
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I'll admit that the Sun Temple and the Meenakshi Temple are older than your rather unfair limit of 500 years (seeing as India was firmly under Muslim rule at that time - and that era was the zenith of the Mughal Empire), but my other two examples are famous monuments built by non-Muslims. And what trivial examples they are - if I dug further I'd probably find another ten palaces and temples of similar stature.
Pure Autism said:
Observe. Side by side we will compare the capital cities, an important costal port city, an interior city, villages and food stands. Somehow I feel I won't need to point out which is China and which is India.
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You've simply cherry-picked pictures of Chinese development. Allow me to compose my own gallery of the very same subjects:
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(The cities, in left-to-right, top-to-bottom order are Beijing, New Delhi, Shanghai, Mumbai, Wuhan (indeed, that Wuhan) and Bangalore.)
For your village pictures, I find it necessary to mention that the first Chinese picture is from a town marketed as a tourist attraction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furong,_Yongshun_County
while the first Indian picture is from a small, obscure town - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nako,_Himachal_Pradesh.
The second Chinese picture is from the reconstruction of Jintai village, which was destroyed twice before the reconstruction in the picture took place. I couldn't even find the source of the Indian picture - it's a random stock image that's been used to illustrate any random Indian village in hundreds of places.

I do admit that India isn't near Chinese levels of development. Never have I denied that. But such dishonesty is unnecessary and simply goes to show your lack of trustworthiness and good faith. As I said, I'm not here to change minds, but to point out mistruths and deception.
 
Shalalallah Akbar said:
I do admit that India isn't near Chinese levels of development. Never have I denied that. But such dishonesty is unnecessary and simply goes to show your lack of trustworthiness and good faith. As I said, I'm not here to change minds, but to point out mistruths and deception.
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Chernobyl and Pripyat are nicer places than anywhere in India.

Berlin in 1945 was a nicer city than anywhere in India.

My home state after Hurricane Fucking Helene is a nicer, cleaner, safer place than anywhere in India.

Your entire subhuman species is based around "mistruths and deception". Your kind have nothing to offer, except your bodies for use as targets in live munitions testing. Your pissant country would be objectively improved if we dropped Tsar Bomba on it, and nothing of value would be lost.

Take your "NO SAAR I AM GOOD INDIAN SAAR INDIA IS NICE SAAR!" bullshit elsewhere, Jeet.
 
Shalalallah Akbar said:
You've simply cherry-picked pictures of Chinese development.
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Literally picked the first images that didn't have a tourism filter.

You can safely find any documentary on YouTube or a vlog channel and experience "cherry-picking" on a much more radical level. Even well meaning documentaries or videos like the countless "Food Ranger" vids about India just showcase how unhygienic and wretched commonplace India is.

It's not that China is more developed (it is naturally) it's that even their villages appear clean, liter-less and more importantly everyone commonly follows basic laws of hygiene established in the late 19'th century.

Literally just pick a random documentary about India. If you have access to at least the corporal sense of sight you don't need an "anti-Indian" agenda to very quickly notice the subhumanity at play. India is it's own worst detractor. Unclean, unhealthy, vile at all aspects of existence. Literally charring corpses with gasoline and chucking them mostly whole into your "sacred" rivers.

 
Shalalallah Akbar said:
Sasr I bloody bastard You simply cherry-pick pictures benechod
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No one cares shut the fuck up.

Boys a new barometer for how jeeted a country is just dropped.

Go to amazon.com, type vib check the auto fill. Then go to amazon.in type vib check the auto. Compare difference post results
 
Pure Autism said:
Literally picked the first images that didn't have a tourism filter.
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Sure. And I'm not a shitskin, I'm a White guy. We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. Heil Hitler!
Pure Autism said:
even their villages appear clean, liter-less and more importantly everyone commonly follows basic laws of hygiene established in the late 19'th century.
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You picked a tourist trap and a just-redeveloped village house for your two examples to illustrate this.
 
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