The impossible truth about Afghanistan

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The impossible truth about Afghanistan​

Cheryl Benard
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In “The Impossible Fact”, the 20th-century German poet Christian Morgenstern tells the story of an academic who undergoes a traumatising experience. He staggers home, wraps damp cloths around his forehead and collapses into his armchair to process what has happened. In the end, he comforts himself by concluding that he must have imagined the whole thing, because if something “shouldn’t be true, it can’t be true”.

To many in the West, an Afghanistan that flourishes under the Taliban, or even one that survives, cannot possibly be true. Under their rule, the country can only be a place of unremitting failure and misery. The decision of Tobias Ellwood, then, as chair of the UK’s defence select committee, to post a video praising the Taliban for improving safety in Afghanistan was never going to find a warm reception.

In 2021, the UN issued a desperate warning about an impending disastrous famine in Afghanistan. The Taliban takeover and the exodus of international NGOs, they said, had caused a collapse in food supplies. They projected one million children were likely to die in the coming winter. And yet, winter came and passed without a famine and without mass deaths. Did the UN’s experts take that as a prompt to review their metrics? Not at all. Instead, they repeated the prediction for the next winter, and were wrong again. Afghanistan is an agricultural country with centuries-long experience in handling scarcity; accustomed to harsh winters and isolation, they knew what to do.

From the moment the Taliban seized Kabul in August 2021, analysts have been confidently predicting the imminent collapse of the Afghan economy. It’s not an unreasonable expectation. The nation’s financial reserves remain frozen. Sanctions have closed the door on foreign investment and business. The Central Bank is unable to access its funds, which are stuck in American and European banks. Not one country has recognised the Taliban government, and several of its key officials are on terrorist no-fly lists.

Nor do the Taliban have any of the requisite skills for governance. Their leadership consists of eccentric elderly religious figures and regional paramilitary commanders. The bulk of the Taliban are young, uneducated men who have never done anything but fight and have never lived anywhere but in remote rural areas. Anyone with education and professional skills decamped to the West. It could only be a matter of months before the ramshackle edifice collapsed. But to everyone’s incredulous amazement, including my own, Taliban Afghanistan lives on.

Ellwood was obviously naïve in his presentation — it’s never a good look for a Government official to be retweeted by the Taliban — but the crux of his message is largely accurate. Afghanistan’s drug trade has been almost eradicated, as confirmed by international watchdog agencies and satellite surveillance. The borders are mostly secure, and the Taliban have built good cooperation with neighbouring border police such as that of Uzbekistan. Even the International Crisis Group, no fan of the Taliban, has acknowledged that security across the country has improved, with the exception of pockets of anti-Taliban extremists.

Elsewhere, the economy is better than it was under the Western-installed and Western-funded governments, the latter having required near total international subsidy while the Taliban are managing not just on their own, but under sanctions. Improved security also means improved trade routes and revitalised agriculture. As the US Institute of Peace, another critic of the Taliban, notes: “the Taliban have taken some positive steps toward financial stability by publishing a fiscally responsible three-month budget and raising considerable amounts of domestic revenue — especially through customs duties, which have risen with a crackdown on corruption”.

When did any of the previous governments have fiscally responsible budgets? Never. According to Sigar, the US government’s Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction, more than 80% of Afghan government spending on our watch was paid for by the US and its allies. As for corruption, Transparency International, the Europe-based watchdog agency, elevated Taliban-ruled Afghanistan by 24 places from where it had been under Western governments, from 174th to 150th, which the government-funded Voice of America termed “a remarkable status upgrade”.

Today, the biggest problem for the Taliban is Isis, which, despite some progress, remains a menace in the country. Given this is a concern we share, surely some cooperation would be wise — not least because there is no obvious alternative to Taliban rule on the horizon. If security is a priority, we can’t treat them as a pariah forever.

And yet, there is what we might call The Big Obstacle: what the Taliban are doing to half their population, the girls and women. Despite earlier promises to the contrary, they are back to their former ways, with girls banned from education after Grade 6 (below the age of 12), women’s employment strictly limited, female students excluded from universities, and strict rules on women’s dress and presence in public. As the UN made clear earlier this year, “20 years of progress for women and girls’ rights has been erased since Taliban takeover”. Although, for accuracy’s sake, this statement would have to read “for women and girls in middle and upper-class urban neighbourhoods”. The grim truth is that, in two decades, barely a dent has been made on female literacy, maternal and infant mortality, or the eradication of forced marriages and child brides in the poor neighbourhoods and rural areas where the overwhelming majority of Afghan women live.

All of which is a tragedy, and certainly does not make the even more restrictive policies of the Taliban any more palatable to us in the West, as the Taliban know well. So, given that they are seeking recognition and foreign investment, why won’t they budge on this matter?

While on other issues, the Taliban have been capable of change or compromise, on the issue of women they are completely intransigent. In his recent speech to mark Eid, Mullah Hibatullah Akhundzada, Afghanistan’s supreme leader, gave no ground, instead announcing that “necessary steps have been taken for the betterment of women as half of society in order to provide them with a comfortable and prosperous life according to the Islamic Shariah”. This was either an exercise in supreme cynicism or something he and his circle truly believe. In either case, we are dealing with a fundamental and irreconcilable difference in values.

So, can anything be done? Well, what we should be learning from the Afghan case is what not to do. As I have written before, we did the wrong thing, perhaps for the right reason. What we did, and what did not work, was to focus on a small group of middle and upper-class urban women, giving them a Western education, and then training in a series of “workshops” in skills that are helpful to activists only in the West. We wrote them a Constitution that guaranteed them seats in Parliament and funded them extensively. And this did produce a cadre of assertive, confident women, capable of aggressively demanding various rights and benefits — but only in a Western setting benignly overseen by us. Once the Taliban took over, they fled and Afghan women found themselves without an obvious grass-roots protest movement.

In Saudi Arabia, by contrast, without our instigation, women fought for their political and social rights, for the right to be in public, to get identity papers without the permission of a male guardian, to make decisions on matters affecting their children, to drive cars. Activists lost their jobs, some were jailed, but they persisted. And, over time, they succeeded in having all of those initially unthinkable demands met. Saudi Arabia today is a different universe from Saudi Arabia 20 years ago, and much of the credit goes to its courageous women. Pakistan, India, Malaysia, Indonesia — they all have indigenous, and influential, women’s movements who have made legal and social gains.

And there are courageous activist women holding their ground at this moment in Afghanistan. Typically, they stem from less privileged personal backgrounds than those who departed, and work through local NGOs with the support of friendships earlier established with women on the outside. They are continuing to offer basic social services to widows, orphans and indigent women. They are using modern technologies for underground education.

Equally encouraging are the deep divisions within Taliban ranks over the issue of women’s rights and female education. Quite a few Talibs send their own daughters to Pakistan or Qatar for access to education and continue to raise the matter internally. Other Islamic countries send regular delegations of Islamic clerics and scholars to Kandahar in an attempt to convince the hardliners that their stance is un-Islamic and is giving Islam a bad name.

There are many pressure points, then, and these would become more effective with the country’s opening. Ellwood’s suggestion that Western embassies should return was not as ill-judged as some insist. The problem is that the Taliban is the government. There is no alternative in the offing; our sanctions are not working, and we are not going to do what the Diaspora would like, and send our militaries back in. So, again, what should we do?

“Showing up is half the battle,” as Stephen Hawking said. Western presence means Western influence, dialogue, and the demonstration of alternative possibilities. Afghan women activists still in the country, and their civil society groups, are asking for this and we should listen to them; they are on the ground and they know best what will help them.

After Ellwood posted his video, he was tarred, feathered and threatened with expulsion, causing him to ignominiously cave in and agree that, like Mr Morgenstern’s academic, he must have “imagined the whole thing”. This dream, however, has cost us, and them, incalculable harm. This time, let’s focus on the facts rather than wishes.
 
So the Taliban are the IRL Caesar's Legion? Heavy-handed, but competent, against a spread-thin and corrupt empire?
 
I'd first like to contextualize this article a bit. The author is the wife of the first US ambassador to Afghanistan post invasion, a guy that had a hand in picking Hamid Karzai to be the first Prime Minister and was the lead negiotiator for "peace talks" while the Taliban overran the country in 2021. There was a point in the mid 2000s where he and the author had their bank accounts seized with over 1.5 million USD in it by the Austrian government because they were suspected of embezzlement but that got squashed because all Americans are good boys and girls and don't do such things.

The article is quite surprising to me, organs of the government are actually admitting that every prognostication and effort to hinder the Taliban has failed because these governments in the undeveloped world are just simplistically run and the people are hardy folk who are mostly self sufficient. The only people being fucked by the sanctions on Afghanistan are the "middle class" that was the main beneficiary of Western aid money, all of which was just training people to hop, skip ,and dance in performances that we wanted, the West was dazzled for a third time by the cosmopolitan class and completely ignored the prior lessons from Afghanistan prior to the Saar Revolution that the rural types need to be addressed more than the cosmopolitan people. The US approaches people it most recognizes to be most like itself in any random country and boosts them up over everyone else and is surprised that they get toppled without issue. City dwellers are not nationalistic at all and the immediate flight out of country post collapse is just an example of this. The Taliban fought for years with just rusty AK-47 and Serval shoes versus the most technologically advanced coalition on earth, and still won just from pure tenacity, the city dwellers just threw their hands up immediately even though they had superior weapons. I admit I expected a large scale famine after the collapse just from the shock of transition, but it seems that most of the people that existed over the horizon from any random city in Afghanistan took precautions as a matter of course and were largely unaffected.
 
Nor do the Taliban have any of the requisite skills for governance. Their leadership consists of eccentric elderly religious figures and regional paramilitary commanders. The bulk of the Taliban are young, uneducated men who have never done anything but fight and have never lived anywhere but in remote rural areas. Anyone with education and professional skills decamped to the West. It could only be a matter of months before the ramshackle edifice collapsed. But to everyone’s incredulous amazement, including my own, Taliban Afghanistan lives on.
This person has most likely never left the state or city they were born in, outside of the 4 years or so to go to college and get "educated." Humans are surprisingly resilient and a lot of our functions are built in; so when it comes to eating, drinking, staying warm, etc, this is shit that most current year societies figured out sometime in the past, regardless of how far they've advanced since. The idea of religious elders and military commanders isn't new either, it's just an older form of governance before the ideas of voting/representation; these ideas aren't new, just more antiquated than what other parts of the world are used to. While we may not agree with everything; they protect their women and punish criminality, everything else is marketing. The lack of education also keeps things simple, and simple is often best. Hard to believe how simple it is to run a country without a thousand commissars running around with their notebooks telling people how to do shit, when they have no idea how to do it.

A farmer is gonna farm, the more help and less interference they get, the better. If the USA was expecting a famine, I can only assume they were burning fields or putting their dicks where they didn't belong.
 
Nor do the Taliban have any of the requisite skills for governance. Their leadership consists of eccentric elderly religious figures and regional paramilitary commanders. The bulk of the Taliban are young, uneducated men who have never done anything but fight and have never lived anywhere but in remote rural areas. Anyone with education and professional skills decamped to the West. It could only be a matter of months before the ramshackle edifice collapsed. But to everyone’s incredulous amazement, including my own, Taliban Afghanistan lives on.
"Oh no, neolib-sisters! How could the Taliban possibly govern a country without hairdressers and women's studies and pride marches and drone strikes? Truly baffling!"
So, can anything be done? Well, what we should be learning from the Afghan case is what not to do. As I have written before, we did the wrong thing, perhaps for the right reason. What we did, and what did not work, was to focus on a small group of middle and upper-class urban women, giving them a Western education, and then training in a series of “workshops” in skills that are helpful to activists only in the West. We wrote them a Constitution that guaranteed them seats in Parliament and funded them extensively. And this did produce a cadre of assertive, confident women, capable of aggressively demanding various rights and benefits — but only in a Western setting benignly overseen by us. Once the Taliban took over, they fled and Afghan women found themselves without an obvious grass-roots protest movement.
>Upper-class Afghan women (usually born or dwelling outside of Afghanistan)
>Millions in globohomo funding backed with American guns
>Grass-roots protest movement
That's the wonderful thing about globohomos; they don't even have to pretend to make sense.
Of course they spent 20 years raising up feminist cadres while the country is in a 'civil' war (really a war against Pakistan) only to realize 'oh shit, feminists are mostly useless in conducting war'.
As the US Institute of Peace, another critic of the Taliban, notes: “the Taliban have taken some positive steps toward financial stability by publishing a fiscally responsible three-month budget and raising considerable amounts of domestic revenue — especially through customs duties, which have risen with a crackdown on corruption”.
>Eliminates heroin
>Fiscally responsible
>Anti-corruption
>Bans bacha bazi

Seriously, explain to me why the Taliban are the bad guys.
 
Having spent some time surrounded by rural afghan farmers and herders, trust me when I say that the average schmuck on the street did not care about western values with the exception of how many us dollars it was going to put in his pocket. The rural women were doing much the same under GIROA as they are under Johnny Taliban. The farmers will farm regardless of who is in charge.
 
Imagine if you will an Afghan. He is 70 years old and lives in a small village in the district of ----. He's a devout muslim like everybody else he knows, performs all his prayers as he should and prides himself in knowing several passages of the Quran by heart. In profession he's a goat herder - he and his sons take his beasts into the mountains for pasture and uses the milk, meat and hides he extracts from his meager herd of 20 heads to feed himself and his family, and whatever he has in excess he sells in the market of the nearest city, which he reaches by walking a fair amount of miles (a car is something he sees only in said city, neither he nor anyone he knows in his village will ever own one). When he enters said city, he sees some sort of American idol painted on the wall - it's an African man with giant nostrils and an odd expression, and under him is some sort of slogan he cannot hope to read or comprehend - "I can't breathe". He's disgusted by it because he knows where it came from, though he cannot comprehend it, nor has any wish to. Two of his sons joined the Taliban and died fighting American troops, and friends he had in the village of Khosrow Sofla had their homes destroyed and their profitable orchards disappeared. But the mural depicting the African reminded him of when he was a young man, and he would walk the same streets with his father, who himself was a goat herd, and he would see posters depicting something resembling himself, holding hands with a shuravi. His father despised the Soviets, his brother who he can scarcely remember these days died fighting them, and he would have too, if his father hadn't needed him as help. But onwards to the market - he sells his goods and made a tidy profit, and before returning to his village he makes a stop at a local tea shop, located in a very small building and with not much seating, he makes a regular point of visiting this place because it has a small television set, and his sons like to watch the news while they talk and drink their tea, though he himself no need of it, he says, because none of what is said there has ever affected him much. On the news playing on the TV, he hears about how a man insisted in turning himself into a woman in the United States, and how rioters burn down places of commerce in France (he recalls hearing about France in a few other occasions, but has no idea where it is). His sons make fun of the news, but he's shocked and disgusted at the lawlessness.
After having their drinks, the man returns to his village. In a week he will make the same pilgrimage, just as he has for 60 years.

If you think I've neglected to make any point - think again. Notice how the man had more important shit to think about than female empowerment and how to provide LGTV youth access to troonshine?
 
if they're just as capable of men, wouldn't they be capable of fighting for their rights?
wouldn't they already have them?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Well women have been denied education, access to weapons and guns and training in how to use them, and public bathrooms and menstrual products that allow them to leave their homes freely, so that argument is fucking retarded. You can make that argument when the playing field is leveled but don't pretend that women in Afghanistan haven't been limited in many ways and for exactly that reason.

Not even saying that's a bad thing for that society and that Afghanistan should embrace libfem hell, but that's not a fair argument.
 
Well women have been denied education, access to weapons and guns and training in how to use them, and public bathrooms and menstrual products that allow them to leave their homes freely, so that argument is fucking retarded. You can make that argument when the playing field is leveled but don't pretend that women in Afghanistan haven't been limited in many ways and for exactly that reason.

Not even saying that's a bad thing for that society and that Afghanistan should embrace libfem hell, but that's not a fair argument.
I legitimately have no idea how the point can miss your head so astronomically.
 
Who knew that having a government composed of actual citizens, as opposed to globalists and bureaucrats will be better for the common man. Also with how female rights devastated the western world no shit other countries are not quick to implement those.
 
To be honest i too thought o shit they gonna starve not because jammering of the ngos but by sheer demographic population increase you can see population rocketing up from 2001 from 20 mil to 40 mil. I was like yep they gonna die i guess locals know best .
 
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