The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

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Why don't you try answering this question? What's a plausible explanation for why there is 20,000 cubic meters of pits containing human remains at Belzec (with a surface area of 6000 square meters, that's literally more than a football field), with thick layers of human ash deposited throughout?
Ashes don't prove cause of death. If people die from disease or as a casualty of war, that is not genocide.
 
Ashes don't prove cause of death. If people die from disease or as a casualty of war, that is not genocide.

Ok, close but try answering the question. Think of it as a thought experiment.

What's a plausible explanation for why there is 20,000 cubic meters of pits containing human remains at Belzec (with a surface area of 6000 square meters, that's literally more than a football field), with thick layers of human ash deposited throughout?
 
Ok, close but try answering the question. Think of it as a thought experiment.
No. Prove your point instead of trying to flip the burden of proof and demanding other people provide and defend alternative theories.
 
No. Prove your point instead of trying to flip the burden of proof and demanding other people provide and defend alternative theories.
I am proving my point (your inability to answer the simple question). Just say Kola was lying about what he found
 
I am proving my point

What point? Burned human remains don't prove anything except that some dead people were burned. It tells us nothing about the circumstances of their death - unless you have some other forensic evidence you're hiding, like autopsy reports or toxicology results. It seemed like there was enough unburned tissue to have run such tests, from the way the remains are described.

(your inability to answer the simple question)

I don't have to answer shit. You're the one with the burden of proof, as you have made the assertions. Prove your point or drop it, faggot.
 
It seemed like there was enough unburned tissue to have run such tests, from the way the remains are described.
I doubt they would be able to determine cause of death (carbon monoxide poisoning) from burnt remains left decomposing for 60 years. This is beside the point though, which is that there is no other plausible explanation for what Kola found.

That's why his findings (if accurate) are phenomenally strong circumstantial evidence for the main story. They are direct evidence of an aspect of the story, that mass body destruction and burial took place at Belzec.
 
there is no other plausible explanation
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🤡 "No, of course not! But there is no other plausible explanation for what we have found EXCEPT MARTIAN CAR-THIEF LAWNSHITTERS! The only thing that makes sense is MARTIANS!"
 
🤡 "Fucking aliens stole my car and shit on my lawn! LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THIS SHIT PILE!"
🐺 "How do you know that? Did your ring camera catch a video of the Mexicans or something?"
🤡 "Mexicans? NO! Fucking space aliens abducted my car and shit on my lawn! I can tell because my car is missing and there is a HUGE PILE OF SHIT on my lawn!"
🐺 ".....so your car isn't there, but a big pile shit is and you say...aliens did it? Did you, ah, check the poop for alien DNA or something? Got some radar reading of their craft? Anything?"
🤡 "No, of course not! But there is no other plausible explanation for what we have found EXCEPT MARTIAN CAR-THIEF LAWNSHITTERS! The only thing that makes sense is MARTIANS!"
"Mexicans or something?" this is exactly the kind of plausible explanation that you don't have for what Kola reported finding

What's a plausible explanation for why there is 20,000 cubic meters of pits containing human remains at Belzec (with a surface area of 6000 square meters, that's literally more than a football field), with thick layers of human ash deposited throughout?
 
Mexicans or something?" this is exactly the kind of plausible explanation that you don't have for what Kola reported finding
You keep saying if and assume, so his explanation is more believable than yours.
What's a plausible explanation for why there is 20,000 cubic meters of pits containing human remains at Belzec (with a surface area of 6000 square meters, that's literally more than a football field), with thick layers of human ash deposited throughout?
None of that has been shown to be true, but you keep repeating it as if it is true because you are a lying idiot.
 
He doesn't have an explanation actually. No revisionist does.
🤡 "Fucking aliens stole my car and shit on my lawn! LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THIS SHIT PILE!"
🐺 "How do you know that? Did your ring camera catch a video of the Mexicans or something?"
🤡 "Mexicans? NO! Fucking space aliens abducted my car and shit on my lawn! I can tell because my car is missing and there is a HUGE PILE OF SHIT on my lawn!"
🐺 ".....so your car isn't there, but a big pile shit is and you say...aliens did it? Did you, ah, check the poop for alien DNA or something? Got some radar reading of their craft? Anything?"
🤡 "No, of course not! But there is no other plausible explanation for what we have found EXCEPT MARTIAN CAR-THIEF LAWNSHITTERS! The only thing that makes sense is MARTIANS!"
🐺 "....are you sure about that?"
🤡 "What is your alternative! TELL ME YOUR THEORY!"
🐺 "I don't have one. Why does that matter?"
🤡 "Then I MUST BE CORRECT by default! It was MARTIAN CAR-THIEF LAWNSHITTERS!"
 
🤡 "Fucking aliens stole my car and shit on my lawn! LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THIS SHIT PILE!"
🐺 "How do you know that? Did your ring camera catch a video of the Mexicans or something?"
🤡 "Mexicans? NO! Fucking space aliens abducted my car and shit on my lawn! I can tell because my car is missing and there is a HUGE PILE OF SHIT on my lawn!"
🐺 ".....so your car isn't there, but a big pile shit is and you say...aliens did it? Did you, ah, check the poop for alien DNA or something? Got some radar reading of their craft? Anything?"
🤡 "No, of course not! But there is no other plausible explanation for what we have found EXCEPT MARTIAN CAR-THIEF LAWNSHITTERS! The only thing that makes sense is MARTIANS!"
🐺 "....are you sure about that?"
🤡 "What is your alternative! TELL ME YOUR THEORY!"
🐺 "I don't have one. Why does that matter?"
🤡 "Then I MUST BE CORRECT by default! It was MARTIAN CAR-THIEF LAWNSHITTERS!"
But I can give you a plausible explanation for a stolen car, eg mexican people, so your analogy makes no sense.

You can't for Kola's findings, which should clue you in that there are some flaws in your worldview.
 
Nobody has to give alternative explanations, you have to PROVE YOUR ARGUMENT. Stop trying to reverse the standard of proof, dipshit.
 
Nobody has to give alternative explanations, you have to PROVE YOUR ARGUMENT. Stop trying to reverse the standard of proof, dipshit.
The fact that Kola (and many others) have found massive amounts of cremains at the sites of these former camps (which were destroyed by the Nazis) is just one data point among many. It's a strong data point, and very strong circumstantial evidence, because there's no plausible explanation for it, other than a tremendous amount of people died at the camp.

Imagine a case against an accused murderer, based on witness testimony. They go into his backyard and find cremains buried there (let's assume the DNA is destroyed)
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The lawyer for the defense comes out, gives no explanation for the buried cremains, and instead shouts "You're reversing the burden of proof!". Do you think a judge or jury is going to find this argument convincing?

You're discrediting yourself and your movement by dancing around simple questions. This isn't an inquisition, I owe you nothing, it's a conversation or debate, and the fact that you can't engage in discussion here is a clear sign of failure.
 
The fact that Kola (and many others) have found massive amounts of cremains
Then why can't you prove it
(which were destroyed by the Nazis)
Then why can't you prove it
just one data point among many.
No it's not
It's a strong data point
No it's not
very strong circumstantial evidence
No it's not
because there's no plausible explanation for it, other than a tremendous amount of people died at the camp.
No they didnt
Imagine a case against an accused murderer, based on witness testimony
No
The lawyer for the defense comes out, gives no explanation for the buried cremains, and instead shouts "You're reversing the burden of proof!". Do you think a judge or jury is going to find this argument convincing?
Lol you don't know how the legal system works
You're discrediting yourself and your movement by dancing around simple questions.
Ironic
This isn't an inquisition
Yes it is, and you've failed at every level
I owe you nothing
Then stop posting
it's a conversation or debate
No its not, we are just here to make fun of you and run off any stragglers who can't seem to post anything new
the fact that you can't engage in discussion here is a clear sign of failure.
Lmao the projection
 
The lawyer for the defense comes out, gives no explanation for the buried cremains, and instead shouts "You're reversing the burden of proof!". Do you think a judge or jury is going to find this argument convincing?
What if the lawyer says to the jury: "Yes, there is a body buried in the backyard. The woman was his lover. She died of a heart attack, and the man, in his grief, buried her near him." In this scenario, your killer gets charged with nothing more than mishandling of a corpse. Sound familiar?

The jury can believe or disbelieve this argument as they choose, but it is 100% on the prosecution to disprove the defense's theory of the crime. They could do so by identifying the victim or identifying the cause of death. If the prosecution cannot do so, the defense will likely win their case. The prosecution has the burden of proof; this is a basic fact of law.

The defense doesn't have to do anything beyond refuting the prosecutor's theory of the crime. If the prosecution fails to prove the basic elements of the crime, the defense will file a motion to dismiss the case, a motion they would win. Your idea of how a court works and who has the burden of proof is entirely backwards.
 
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What if the lawyer says to the jury: "Yes, there is a body buried in the backyard. The woman was his lover. She died of a heart attack, and the man, in his grief, buried her near him." In this scenario, your killer gets charged with nothing more than mishandling of a corpse. Sound familiar?
That's plausible explanation that very well might be accepted by judge or jury, esp if corroborated by other evidence. Now what say you here?

What's a plausible explanation for why there is 20,000 cubic meters of pits containing human remains at Belzec (with a surface area of 6000 square meters, that's literally more than a football field), with thick layers of human ash deposited throughout?
 
That's plausible explanation that very well might be accepted by judge or jury, esp if corroborated by other evidence. Now what say you here?

What's a plausible explanation for why there is 20,000 cubic meters of pits containing human remains at Belzec (with a surface area of 6000 square meters, that's literally more than a football field), with thick layers of human ash deposited throughout?
You have a lot of trouble going from point A to point B, don't you? Even with your own analogy...

People died from disease or war. They were cremated and their ashes buried. There is no evidence of genocide. Unless you have proof these specific people were gassed as part of an intentional plot to exterminate an entire ethnic group, then finding ashes is not evidence enough to prove anything other than corpses were burned.
 
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