Business The gruesome new data on tech jobs - "Learn to weld, techbro"

https://www.businessinsider.com/gruesome-tech-jobs-data-scientists-analytics-indeed-2025-11

Job seekers line up at the TechFair conference in Los Angeles

• Indeed reports a sharp decline in tech job postings, especially in data and analytics.
• There are 40% fewer data and analytics job postings compared to before the pandemic boom.
• Rising applications and generative AI make this part of the job market highly competitive.

Indeed, the world's largest job site, just released its big annual study. The data on tech jobs is pretty gruesome. The outlook for data and analytics jobs is particularly grim.

Let's start with the overall job market. This chart, which includes Indeed's Job Postings Index, shows a steady decline in available jobs since the pandemic boom of 2022.



Dig deeper, and you can see that the tech job market has done a lot worse than some other sectors. Indeed's Tech Job Postings Index peaked above 200 in 2022 and has since plunged to 67.



Data and analytics jobs really stand out, though. This sector had a Jobs Posting Index of 60, the lowest of all sectors Indeed tracked as of the end of October. That means there are 40% fewer data and analytics job openings than before the pandemic.

Even worse: There is still a rising number of applications per job in this sector, according to Indeed.

These types of roles include business analyst, data analyst, data scientist, and business-intelligence developer. Indeed's data shows a clear mismatch between employer demand and worker supply here. Years of investment in data-science training have left a glut of skilled candidates just as hiring appetite cools.

"Workers who received that training are likely to continue to look for jobs that match their skills, regardless of the pullback in postings, because it is often difficult, costly, and time-consuming to change careers," said Cory Stahle, a senior economist at Indeed.

The pullback in data & analytics jobs has been more dramatic than in other occupations. Employers went on a hiring spree during the post-pandemic boom. Since then, many firms simply haven't needed to replace these workers as much.

Adding to the chill: the rise of generative AI, which is making it easier for more people to analyze data with less formal training.

"AI is not yet capable of replacing workers, but it may be helping workers and businesses do more with less," Stahle said.

For job seekers, that translates into a fierce market.

"This combination of fewer postings and more applications suggests that the market is competitive," Stahle warned. "Finding the right job may take some time, and your wage growth is likely to be weaker than it was a few years in these roles."

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Yea things have slowed down, but Senior and Lead techbros who have enough exp and can master AI-fu, as in, they know their shit and don't over-rely on Copilot to do their shit but use it as an automated Jr code monkey instead, should do pretty well. It's the Junior and Mid techbros who are felted the most.

For these and more, we have our very own tech layoffs thread.

 

[Divine right to rule]

Imagine being the one journo who learned to code a few years back and now this.

Honestly, jobs in the 1st world will shrink so dramatically in the next decade that UBI will probably be necessary.

 

[Peaches the Wonder Cat]

Many of the layoffs are because businesses think AI will replace workers, or because companies are spending so much on AI that they have to cut staff.

That said AI can do some minor grunt work in tech, but that's the grunt work that entry level devs should be doing so they can learn the foundations needed to become senior. Letting AI do nuget package updates or trivial stuff like that is bad in the long term. But Line Must Go Up.

 

[satorrotas]

Maybe the jobs aren't listed because they're actually only being advertised in a local newspaper (in compliance with the law) with intent to fill them with Rajindahar's ninth cousin. Food for thought.

 

[Ahriman]

Cooked!

 

[Duane Dibbley]

And they'll not believe that migrants are taking their jobs, that WFH was a retarded idea and their jobs are now outsourced to Dehli.

The only AI that are taking their jobs is Actually Indians.

 

[Jace on ice]

Serious question, where are people supposed to work exactly?

Factory jobs - outsourced to third world countries

Manual labor jobs - given exclusively to immigrants

White collar jobs - outsourced or given exclusively to immigrants

Blue collar trades - given exclusively to immigrants.

Do progressives expect 200 million people to work exclusively as university professors and immigrant rights attorneys?

 

[Cpt. Stud Beefpile]

"He's dead, Jim"

At this point it would literally take rebel groups building campfires at AI data centers or lumberjacks mistaking the undersea cables at India's landing point to even hope to revive the tech industry in the USA. When the "AI bubble" (really the shitty LLM bubble) collapses the collateral damage from it will far outdo any benefit to the average techie.

 

[Nero Fiddled]

Indeed is a major job site, but their tech jobs are, and have always been, bottom rung.

Not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure they have the UK government contract to make jobs available in Job Centres (or whatever they call them these days), so hardly an accurate barometer of the real world.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Serious question, where are people supposed to work exactly?

Factory jobs - outsourced to third world countries

Manual labor jobs - given exclusively to immigrants

White collar jobs - outsourced or given exclusively to immigrants

Blue collar trades - given exclusively to immigrants.

Do progressives expect 200 million people to work exclusively as university professors and immigrant rights attorneys?

We're supposed to sell the stuff produced in the third world.

For the record, as you know, I'm from the third world and we also import from China, which causes also low employment when we should be producing those things here instead of competing with slaves.

 

[Divine right to rule]

Serious question, where are people supposed to work exactly?

Factory jobs - outsourced to third world countries

Manual labor jobs - given exclusively to immigrants

White collar jobs - outsourced or given exclusively to immigrants

Blue collar trades - given exclusively to immigrants.

Do progressives expect 200 million people to work exclusively as university professors and immigrant rights attorneys?

That's the rub, you need either natural resources or industrial capacity, if you have that, automation will ideally fund a welfare state.

If you don't, your country is pretty fucked.

 

[Jace on ice]

That's the rub, you need either natural resources or industrial capacity, if you have that, automation will ideally fund a welfare state.

If you don't, your country is pretty fucked.

No jobs and a culture that glorifies rugged individualism and sees not working as a moral failing is a recipe for complete and utter fucking disaster.

 

[Divine right to rule]

No jobs and a culture that glorifies rugged individualism and sees not working as a moral failing is a recipe for complete and utter fucking disaster.

No doubt. There will be huge cultural, ethnic, and economic shifts with conflicts we can't imagine yet.
Interesting times to be sure.

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

It also doesn't help that for years people were saying that all industries would wither and die, but IT would forever grow. And I don't think I need to tell anyone that far too many people from students to execs bought that bullshit.

 

[MisterListerTheBlister]

No jobs and a culture that glorifies rugged individualism and sees not working as a moral failing is a recipe for complete and utter fucking disaster.

That's honestly the kinda shit that's been annoying me. Faggots getting all pissy and posting a job application at you when said job application is for a company that's already looking to downsize to foreigners just like the fucking rest of them. The ladder's being kicked, sawed, and burned down as we speak and the only advice the people on those rungs are getting, by people who are ALSO burning or having the fire catch up to their asses no less, is "Well shouldn't have picked that job lmao, learn to do a different one".

 

[BelUwUga]

Blue collar trades - given exclusively to immigrants.

Heavy equipment operation is pretty nice. Paco might be trusted with a Bobcat but whiteness and machine cost are correlated. I've only seen white guys running concrete pump and crane trucks.

 

[Jace on ice]

That's honestly the kinda shit that's been annoying me. Faggots getting all pissy and posting a job application at you when said job application is for a company that's already looking to downsize to foreigners just like the fucking rest of them. The ladder's being kicked, sawed, and burned down as we speak and the only advice the people on those rungs are getting, by people who are ALSO burning or having the fire catch up to their asses no less, is "Well shouldn't have picked that job lmao, learn to do a different one".

Yea that shit pisses me off too.

"I guess you should have had a crystal ball and known that the job you started studying for five years ago would abruptly disappear, that's what you get for being lazy you zoomers/millennials with your avocado toast and confounded computer tablet devices."

 

[Gottahavemysips]

Many of the layoffs are because businesses think AI will replace workers, or because companies are spending so much on AI that they have to cut staff.

That said AI can do some minor grunt work in tech, but that's the grunt work that entry level devs should be doing so they can learn the foundations needed to become senior. Letting AI do nuget package updates or trivial stuff like that is bad in the long term. But Line Must Go Up.

The brutal reality is that instead of hiring Americans back into these jobs, they look for OPT/H-1b visas because they are objectively cheaper. This big AI push is a gamble that they think they'll be able to mask by replacing their workforce with Indiana. When it pops, they'll be looking to offshore as much as possible because the goddamn line must always go up. This "we NEED to import infinity jeets to nest China" excuse doesn't even work, because how the fuck do you beat China when you don't have any tech companies left?
This bullshit needs to be stopped. I'm pissed with Trump because his comments about the "necessity" of H-1b because America no longer has the necessary industry talent (not even what the visa is used for BTW) which only happened because industry left the US. There's such an easy solution, bar H-1b from any sector aside from industry if we want to avoid a repeat of the situation for why they are so "necessary" right now. Yeah, the line may go down in the short term, but this shit is going to kill the West.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

At a tech school now. It is VERY obvious they are desperately trying to get low IQ niggers into places they shouldn't be, and pajeets into tech. Really disgusting area, blatant spiclish illegals everywhere, every manner of turd worlder, race traitors like you wouldn't believe, Geisinger health care clinics everywhere to keep said scum alive and replacing. You'd think something was in the water there are so many shit sharks, but I mostly blame it on the fact that there are two liberal colleges within a 7 block radius of the city.

After asking my networking teacher (who always inundated us with "AI is taking jobs" articles daily) in front of the whole class - "What kind of job market are we heading into with foreigners and machine learning being given the jobs we were being groomed for?", the best response I got was, "Hmm, well that's interesting, yeah that's something interesting to think about. I don't know".

I knew then that tech was probably not the place to be, and I changed my major to a engineering trade.

Serious question, where are people supposed to work exactly?

Factory jobs - outsourced to third world countries

Manual labor jobs - given exclusively to immigrants

White collar jobs - outsourced or given exclusively to immigrants

Blue collar trades - given exclusively to immigrants.

Do progressives expect 200 million people to work exclusively as university professors and immigrant rights attorneys?

Now you understand how the AIPAC State designed to disenfranchise White Europeans disenfranchises White Europeans. Remember, all of this was intentional, malicious, and carried out over generations since 1913. Also, "progressives" should be in quotes, as they are anything but, Regression is their only goal.

 

[DamnWolves!]

Many of the layoffs are because businesses think AI will replace workers, or because companies are spending so much on AI that they have to cut staff.

That said AI can do some minor grunt work in tech, but that's the grunt work that entry level devs should be doing so they can learn the foundations needed to become senior. Letting AI do nuget package updates or trivial stuff like that is bad in the long term. But Line Must Go Up.

My experience with data analysis/engineering in the SMB space is that well-structured data is what in-house AI modes require to get smart to begin with. In my opinion, a proper ETL pipeline and data warehouse -- made with applied, human intelligence -- really is the one place you shouldn't skimp if you're looking to leverage your data for models.

C-suites think LLMs and AI are interchangeable words, and because they can come up with plausible sounding responses, they have no understanding that a plausible-sounding answer based on garbage is still garbage. Almost no one except the biggest boys are talking about training their own model; they're talking about leveraging the commercially-available ones trained on Reddit and Wikipedia.

Sure, maybe if you had 1,000,000 pdf or JSON invoices and POs and shit, and a context window big enough to track it all, you could get a reasonable suggested data schema, but asking an AI to figure out, associate, structure, and store unstructured data is several orders of magnitude more dangerous and more expensive than just designing proper backends and writing sensible pipelines. You're trading capital investment for much higher ongoing opex, which is never sustainable for long -- but perhaps they know that and it's all about getting this quarter's numbers down.

Once you have your data structured, you can tell an AI about that structure in natural language and maybe get something useful, but based on what players like Google and Tableau and Snowflake have put out so far, they're clearly having trouble getting that functionality to work to the standard of a decent data analyst.