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You know we dont have to ban porn right? We can just regulate it...like literally every other product put out on the market. And I mean stricter regulation on it then there are already.
The Great Porn Debate - The Coomites vs Anti-Faparians
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I’m not a Christian or a Jew so why should I give a shit about this?
I have the right to enjoy things that aren’t Christian.
Mea culpa: I only saw the first quote when I made this post, and was responding specifically to it
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I would be fine with that. I don't feel that would violate muh free speech considering film is already regulated to some degree and movies are an entirely different game than porn
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Cumbrain moment. Most of those quotes aren't even religious, just reveling in moral reprehensibility. Normal people don't take pleasure in introducing children to hardcore porn, cheating on their spouses, or treating basic decency as some oppressive blight
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Porn is trashy, hentai is where it's at.
You can call me a weaboo faggot but hentai can have respectful romantic relationships and explore the characters so you're more conscious of the person behind the sexy body even if it's just lewd without any romance, not to mention that none of it is even real so any concerns you have regarding the treatment of the actors of the shady industry are null and void and you don't even have to feel bad about getting off to it. I will never support the banning of porn or even "regulation" which honestly wouldn't that just come down to banning certain sex acts and kinks that people aren't okay with? But yeah, I've read some studies saying that too much porn is bad for you and much like cigs and alkeehol, I think findings that have been verified should be spread to the public so they're more educated before making the decision to consume it. Though I will say that a lot of those finding are chicken and egg and I feel like it's a lot more likely for lonely guys to turn to consuming a ton of porn than for porn to isolate guys and make them lonely on it's own so more research can and should be done. I don't consume all that much porn, I have no love for it, I think it's trash that could never be art and that something that only serves the purpose of making you jizz isn't worth much but you know, a line needs to be drawn.
You can call me a weaboo faggot but hentai can have respectful romantic relationships and explore the characters so you're more conscious of the person behind the sexy body even if it's just lewd without any romance, not to mention that none of it is even real so any concerns you have regarding the treatment of the actors of the shady industry are null and void and you don't even have to feel bad about getting off to it. I will never support the banning of porn or even "regulation" which honestly wouldn't that just come down to banning certain sex acts and kinks that people aren't okay with? But yeah, I've read some studies saying that too much porn is bad for you and much like cigs and alkeehol, I think findings that have been verified should be spread to the public so they're more educated before making the decision to consume it. Though I will say that a lot of those finding are chicken and egg and I feel like it's a lot more likely for lonely guys to turn to consuming a ton of porn than for porn to isolate guys and make them lonely on it's own so more research can and should be done. I don't consume all that much porn, I have no love for it, I think it's trash that could never be art and that something that only serves the purpose of making you jizz isn't worth much but you know, a line needs to be drawn.
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Some bigbrained takes from the KF fedi instance.
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As it's Torba's own site, it is his own choice to ban it.
I don't consider pornography a free speech issue as much as a free market issue.
While I would like to see some regulation that would return us to the old hey days of magazines and dvd style availability I realize that is fairly optimistic.
We do however as a society need to find some way to encourage moderation, because I've personally seen the effects of what a porn addiction can do to people and it's can be very destructive in terms of relationships and in life in general.
It's also an exploitative industry and no porn friendly journos or pornographer can really convince me otherwise when there is a mountain of evidence to the contrary, even from voices who are porn positive in the industry, acknowledge that the industry has a dark underbelly.
As for solutions. I don't think there can be any sort of mandated restriction, it has to be viewed as something that contributes towards the public health and treated as an educational subject. So teach people this is why you shouldn't consume so much/as much pornography, this is how the industries exploit people and this is why moderation should be encouraged.
I also think that there should be especial care taken to educate women about the industry and the actual realities of it.
As for any form of governmental control I think we are long past that, even if they could enforce a ban, therefore it's up to individual choice at this point.
As for the morality of pornography, it's up to the individual to chose what they think is acceptable.
I don't consider pornography a free speech issue as much as a free market issue.
While I would like to see some regulation that would return us to the old hey days of magazines and dvd style availability I realize that is fairly optimistic.
We do however as a society need to find some way to encourage moderation, because I've personally seen the effects of what a porn addiction can do to people and it's can be very destructive in terms of relationships and in life in general.
It's also an exploitative industry and no porn friendly journos or pornographer can really convince me otherwise when there is a mountain of evidence to the contrary, even from voices who are porn positive in the industry, acknowledge that the industry has a dark underbelly.
As for solutions. I don't think there can be any sort of mandated restriction, it has to be viewed as something that contributes towards the public health and treated as an educational subject. So teach people this is why you shouldn't consume so much/as much pornography, this is how the industries exploit people and this is why moderation should be encouraged.
I also think that there should be especial care taken to educate women about the industry and the actual realities of it.
As for any form of governmental control I think we are long past that, even if they could enforce a ban, therefore it's up to individual choice at this point.
As for the morality of pornography, it's up to the individual to chose what they think is acceptable.
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In my opinion, porn shouldn't be banned. As events like prohibition and the war on drugs have taught us, trying to ban something that people consume to such a notable degree will never work smoothly, or even at all, especially considering how much of a primal need sex/masturbation is to humans - there's a reason prostitution is considered "the oldest profession in the world" by some. Trying to ban it would just lead to porn production either going underground, or going overseas, and last thing you want is porn producers to decide that since they're already breaking the law anyway, they might as well ignore the rest of the laws and regulations. You think the treatment of porn actors and actresses is bad now? Just imagine how bad it'd be if regulations were completely non-existent.
There's also the fact that since pornography is a rather vast array of media, trying to ban all of it would be expensive and difficult as fuck. When literally anyone who can either draw decently well, or access to a camera can, in theory, produce pornography, getting every last bit of it is going to be a fruitless endeavor. It's like trying to get every single person that's brewing bathtub gin, except even more difficult, as the equipment and supplies required are extremely common. There's also the fact that classifying what is and isn't porn could itself be difficult, as getting a common consensus on what can be considered pornographic material is difficult - is it purely anything showing sexual intercourse? Sexual activities in general? Would regular nude figures count? What about non-nude figures in provocative posistions? If I crudely drew a penis on a sheet of paper, would that be considered pornographic? You'd either end up casting the net way too far and end up getting tons of false positives, or end up with things that most would consider sexual, but since they aren't "technically" pornographic, they're allowed.
Lastly, the argument about porn being addictive is true, but dishonest, since people can get addicted to pretty much anything - video games, television, exercise, drugs (both prescription and recreational), alcohol, tobacco, certain foods/drinks, gambling - you name it, there's probably someone who does it to a degree that'd be considered an addiction. Porn does have it's negatives from excessive consumption, but so do most things. Someone who only drinks a couple units a week is clearly different from someone who gets blackout drunk every other day, and likewise someone who watches porn infrequently is different than someone that jacks off so much their ejaculate contains blood. Granted, things like certain drugs cannot be consumed in moderation, as those are rather harmful even when rarely consumed, but porn isn't exactly meth or LSD.
The best things to do regarding pornography are just warn people about the negatives of excessive consumption of porn like we do alcohol, and keep it out of reach of children by limiting the access they have to the internet, and teaching/encouraging parents about measures to prevent their kids seeing such content (only letting them browse the internet under adult supervision, installing site-blockers/filter systems to keep kids solely on appropriate websites, etc. We look down on parents that are irresponsible enough to let their child get access to and drink alcohol, so why wouldn't we treat parents that let their kids access porn the same way?
TL;DR: Porn is impossible to ban as it's too in demand, would lead to even less regulation on the industry due to driving it underground, it's too easy to produce and it's too hard to define what is and isn't pornographic. Just teach people to avoid excessive consumption of pornography like we do alcohol.
There's also the fact that since pornography is a rather vast array of media, trying to ban all of it would be expensive and difficult as fuck. When literally anyone who can either draw decently well, or access to a camera can, in theory, produce pornography, getting every last bit of it is going to be a fruitless endeavor. It's like trying to get every single person that's brewing bathtub gin, except even more difficult, as the equipment and supplies required are extremely common. There's also the fact that classifying what is and isn't porn could itself be difficult, as getting a common consensus on what can be considered pornographic material is difficult - is it purely anything showing sexual intercourse? Sexual activities in general? Would regular nude figures count? What about non-nude figures in provocative posistions? If I crudely drew a penis on a sheet of paper, would that be considered pornographic? You'd either end up casting the net way too far and end up getting tons of false positives, or end up with things that most would consider sexual, but since they aren't "technically" pornographic, they're allowed.
Lastly, the argument about porn being addictive is true, but dishonest, since people can get addicted to pretty much anything - video games, television, exercise, drugs (both prescription and recreational), alcohol, tobacco, certain foods/drinks, gambling - you name it, there's probably someone who does it to a degree that'd be considered an addiction. Porn does have it's negatives from excessive consumption, but so do most things. Someone who only drinks a couple units a week is clearly different from someone who gets blackout drunk every other day, and likewise someone who watches porn infrequently is different than someone that jacks off so much their ejaculate contains blood. Granted, things like certain drugs cannot be consumed in moderation, as those are rather harmful even when rarely consumed, but porn isn't exactly meth or LSD.
The best things to do regarding pornography are just warn people about the negatives of excessive consumption of porn like we do alcohol, and keep it out of reach of children by limiting the access they have to the internet, and teaching/encouraging parents about measures to prevent their kids seeing such content (only letting them browse the internet under adult supervision, installing site-blockers/filter systems to keep kids solely on appropriate websites, etc. We look down on parents that are irresponsible enough to let their child get access to and drink alcohol, so why wouldn't we treat parents that let their kids access porn the same way?
TL;DR: Porn is impossible to ban as it's too in demand, would lead to even less regulation on the industry due to driving it underground, it's too easy to produce and it's too hard to define what is and isn't pornographic. Just teach people to avoid excessive consumption of pornography like we do alcohol.
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As already explained by some, banning porn would just drive it underground and produce a black market for it.
Porn is illegal in most Middle Eastern nations yet people can easily watch it/acquire it from downloading it online, to underground porn producers. We already have bans on the most degenerate forms of porn like rape and CP, and yet you can't go a month without some fuck getting busted for having TBs of CP on his computer.
If banning porn is good for society then how why are the majority of nations that have it banned considered shitholes?
(Green:Not banned Yellow:Restrictions in place Red:Banned)
Porn is illegal in most Middle Eastern nations yet people can easily watch it/acquire it from downloading it online, to underground porn producers. We already have bans on the most degenerate forms of porn like rape and CP, and yet you can't go a month without some fuck getting busted for having TBs of CP on his computer.
If banning porn is good for society then how why are the majority of nations that have it banned considered shitholes?
(Green:Not banned Yellow:Restrictions in place Red:Banned)
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there would be a whole lot less kids accessing it if it was illegal. you aren't gonna be seeing a lot of 10 year olds firing up the ole tor browser to seek it out.
lmao. I'm sorry but that argument is just stupid in about 10 ways
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Exceptional argument. Hate speech is generally describing some observation about society or some societal goal, and is generally political, even if people find it's politics reprehensible. There's no reason for a free speech argument for something that isn't political that has destructive effects; there is a good free speech argument for something that is political even if it does have destructive effects. Controversial art is somewhere in between the two depending on what it is exactly; but certainly it is exceptional to equate sperging about Jews with abusing emotionally vulnerabel women on tape.
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India bans porn? I thought the porn industry and Bollywood were effectivly the same due to mob ties to both. I've heard its not uncommon for big time Bollywood actresses to have been in fully produced porn because of it. Also Thailand allows for prostitution but not porn?
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i don't like porn because all the guys in it are old geezers
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Maybe if you watch grandpa porn or something....
I always figured being a male porn star is a young man's game, something you do in your twenties and early thirties. But I may be wrong.
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Isn't a lot of porn "POV" now? As in you don't see the guy? How disgusting are probably most of those people who underpay vulnerable chicks to fuck and then profit off selling it? Porn shooting sites also are serious drug dens most of the time for the guys to keep it up and the girls to numb the pain.
Source: I knew a porn star you've probably heard of. Emphasis on past tense. It killed her.
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SJW: "You can't like porn! It promotes misogyny and empowers the Patriarchy. Hate Speech isn't Free Speech!"
/pol/ Tard: "You can't like porn! It promotes moral degeneracy and enriches the Jews! Sex isn't Free Speech!"
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It's pretty weird seeing this on the farms considering the farms itself is far more morally dubious than a lot of porn.
