💬 Off-Topic "The Good Ones" - For the 1% of trannies that pass and/or aren't otherwise fucking insane

[Markass the Worst]

If I'm seen as a high point of mental stability within the trans community then we are all doomed. I'm autistic and 100% medically retired from the military due to trauma and various related mental health issues, I just know how to keep my problems out of the public light as best I can. But the reality is I'm a bit of a mess, I can't even sleep most nights without screaming in my sleep.

The difference is you are self aware enough to at least acknowledge your issues. Can't say the same about much others.

 

[Squishie PP]

In something that I thought was actual female behaviour. The Ladyboy mentions she's had meaningless sex with men, but because she likes this guy and wants a proper relationship she wants to take it slow before getting physical.

heh. This alone may prove that there are truly "born in the wrong body" types out there.

If I'm seen as a high point of mental stability within the trans community then we are all doomed. I'm autistic and 100% medically retired from the military due to trauma and various related mental health issues, I just know how to keep my problems out of the public light as best I can. But the reality is I'm a bit of a mess, I can't even sleep most nights without screaming in my sleep.

The issue is that the "trans community" has gone from being a small community to being a full-fledged cult that actively tries to recruit as many new members as possible. New members that really shouldn't be pulled in such as children, lonely/autistic men, and female rape victims.

 

[Ordinary Rock]

In something that I thought was actual female behaviour. The Ladyboy mentions she's had meaningless sex with men, but because she likes this guy and wants a proper relationship she wants to take it slow before getting physical.

Ladyboys have been around for a while in most asian countries, and were undeniably perceived as male up until this whole trans hullaballoo. I'd wager that most ladyboys see themselves as male too, not female.

heh. This alone may prove that there are truly "born in the wrong body" types out there.

I'm more willing to place my bets on the idea that ladyboys, regardless of behavior are repressed homosexuals. Homosexuality is still largely frowned upon in Asia. Wanting to take it slow before getting physical isn't any more female than it is safe dating practice.

I've interacted with the trans community at length. At its root transition indicates mental illness. There is no brain/body mismatch science that indicates that there is a biological basis for transgenderism. The core idea of rejecting all of your lived experience and biology in favor of what you perceive yourself to be is indicative of mental illness at minimum and severe disassociation for most. Passing is not an equivalent for absence of mental illness - simply the financial and medical lengths a person is willing to go to chase their delusion.

 

[Squishie PP]

I'm more willing to place my bets on the idea that ladyboys, regardless of behavior are repressed homosexuals. Homosexuality is still largely frowned upon in Asia. Wanting to take it slow before getting physical isn't any more female than it is safe dating practice.

What I said was more of a joke, since a common complaint I have seen traditionalist men have about modern women is that they are promiscuous first, and then want to settle down later with someone who will give them free money. I guess if you have to explain the joke it is less funny

 

[Fagatron Over 9000]

Any creature without dysphoria is automatically a fake troon to me. I think the only troons I accept are those who get rapidly suicidal when reminded of their sex and use the names and pronouns as a placeholder until they can get the money or support for therapy to unpack their issues. That's it, and everyone else is delusional

 

[Paper Machete]

Any creature without dysphoria is automatically a fake troon to me. I think the only troons I accept are those who get rapidly suicidal when reminded of their sex and use the names and pronouns as a placeholder until they can get the money or support for therapy to unpack their issues. That's it, and everyone else is delusional

Someone who is distressed because they think they should really be the opposite sex are by definition delusional. They are just as delusional as the fake fakers. The idea this mythical person exists is part of what has made trannies such a problem because the ideology got their foot in the door saying they're just poor little mes who are so hurt and distressed and just want to be normal. But this is not true. It's a culture bound illness. It is induced in people. There are some people who have body dysmorphia or dissociate but those have other causes and nothing is alleviated by pretending it's just another form of dissociation they layer on top. Encouraging it in any form only lets them get worse. Also, there is currently next to zero therapists at the moment that wouldn't just encourage them to troon out, if not be the one who brings it up themselves.

Transvestites were honestly the first and only type. Then came AGPs as the fetish evolved as a lot of fetishes/kinks do. Then everything has been retconned as transgender and this new thing called dysphoria.

I honestly see trannies as having some sort of behavioral addiction. You can't enable them at all but they often will get upset with you similar to drug addicts when you don't because they just need this to get by for a little while until they get to a "place" were they can stop for real this time, man, they just need a little help, man, c'mon just let me crash at your house just let me borrow some money I'll pay you back I promise I'll quit for real this time I know it's bad for me can I borrowsomemoneymanpleaseIcanstopIjustneedthistocopeuntilIcangetthisdepressionundercontrolc'monman.

Addictions aren't really just drugs that cause chemicals in your brain to hook you. They're toxic, maladaptive behavior patterns. The more you continue doing them the more reinforcement to continue. You have to train yourself out of them the same way you train yourself into them. If someone you know starts to think they're "trapped in the wrong body" and you get the idea you're helping by playing the game with them until some magical point where they "don't need it anymore" then you're going to just be another enabler on their path to circling the drain.

 

[Fagatron Over 9000]

They are just as delusional as the fake fakers

Yeah, I suppose I didn't word it as well as I could have. It's sad that there are no good therapists out there, but I have met around two 'transgender' people who would identify as cis if they were able to have access to a therapist who could help them unwork whatever shit they have on. It's what convinced me transgenderism was a mental illness-these two were not 'loud and proud' but rather morbidly aware of the reality that they feel permanently suicidal because of their biology.

In a perfect world, these traumatised people can seek the help they need instead of having a flawed and mostly fetish-fueled idealogy thrust onto them. I don't know how TRAs don't realise this. A perfect world, everyone loves their bodies. Even transgender people hate their bodies after the surgeries. They still take all the drugs until they die.

 

[Ordinary Rock]

It's sad that there are no good therapists out there, but I have met around two 'transgender' people who would identify as cis if they were able to have access to a therapist who could help them unwork whatever shit they have on.

In a perfect world, these traumatised people can seek the help they need instead of having a flawed and mostly fetish-fueled idealogy thrust onto them.

Well said, also +1 to what Paper Machete said about maladaptive coping mechanisms. In my experience, most cases of transgenderism are maladaptive coping mechanisms for severe trauma, especially in trutrans types. I have met very few trans/detransitioners without an abundance of trauma, on both FTM and MTF sides. Perceived normalcy is largely because of use of transition as a means to cope - to completely separate oneself from the person who has experienced trauma by becoming someone else - some will go very far to make this happen.

I believe that gender dysphoria as a condition has been around for quite some time, but has only recently been "legitimized" as a condition requiring treatment by medical communities. As long as gendered social expectations have been around, there have also been a fraction of GNC kids that have wished to be the opposite sex, typically in early adolescence and resolving identity related issues by adulthood. The percentage of dysphoric kids and adults has of course exploded in recent years due to cultural trends + transition (going deeper into the maladaptive coping mechanism/delusion) encouraged as a "solution". Eager to see this ideology end in upcoming years but also not eager to see the repercussions of a gigantic medical malpractice scandal exploiting vulnerable, traumatized people come to light.

 

[LongDayAgain]

Sophia Narwitz is fine. I like the reviews, especially the most recent Veliguard one that I think is one of the best takedowns of the game.