Opinion The future of Debanking - When the deplatforming Josh and Kiwifarms received for the past several years goes mainstream.

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First lady Melania Trump (L) looks at her son Barron Trump after U.S. President Donald Trump delivered his acceptance speech for the Republican presidential nomination on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington, D.C., on Aug. 27, 2020. Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

By Jeffrey A. Tucker
10/31/2024Updated: 10/31/2024

Among many worrying trends is the problem of debanking. It is underreported. The victims do not like to talk about it, even among family and friends.

It is rarely discussed at all in public forums. Only specialists write about it. But it is a threat to everyone in the most intensely effective way. The practice denies people access to the basics of life and yet there is no appeal, no process, no methods of challenge, and no remediation.

We did not know until Melania Trump’s latest biography that she and her son Barron were victims of debanking, the practice of shutting down the bank account with an unsigned and unexplained decision in which the account holder is merely notified that all services are hereby denied.

Good on her for admitting this. People rarely do.

This apparently happened in 2021, after her husband had left the office of the presidency. There were concerted efforts at the time to wipe out the memory of his time in office.

Back in those days, I used the home assistance called Google Home. I asked who the 45th president was and the product responded that it had no information on that. Indeed, it was like a scene from Orwell.
Apparently Melania and Barron were also being deleted by their own bank.


“I was shocked and dismayed to learn that my long-time bank decided to terminate my account and deny my son the opportunity to open a new one,” she wrote.
She did not say the name of the bank. Nor do most victims of this practice. They simply sent a letter and enclosed the balance. The victim then has to hunt around for an alternative, now with the black mark of having been canceled by another bank, which raises real questions. The problem is compounded by the absence of any real reason for the actions.
We do not know how widespread this practice is but, anecdotally, it has clearly escalated in recent years. The same has happened to the former president, and many of his supporters.
The Free Press comments: “Also debanked have been a number of Christian charities, including Indigenous Advance Ministries, a Memphis-based charity that does philanthropic work for orphans in Uganda, and Family Council, a pro-life charity based in Arkansas. According to Democratic lawmakers, many Arab and South-Asian Americans—who are considered ‘high risk’ because of being Muslim—have been debanked, too.”

There is no human right to have a bank account, and banks have every legal right to decide with whom they would like to do business. They can end client services for anyone at any time and have no legal obligation to explain or allow appeal.
Confusing matters is that banks may not necessarily want to kick account holders off but are pressured to do so by their own compliance standards. If they see a business account engaged in activity that seems even slightly sketchy—dealing with crypto or moving cash around in strange ways or taking too many deposits from a strange source—the system itself could flag the account and the process set in motion with no human decision-maker.
The letter could be sent and the account removed without any knowledge from someone at the bank. The algorithms are ruling the people in this case, a problem that has become extremely serious in a range of areas.
At the same time, there is real danger presented when the practice is deployed for purely political reasons. It is a digital application of the principle of Sun Tzu: “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.” Debanking allows exactly this.

Banking services exert an incredible power over our lives. Our automatic payments keep the lights on, the mortgage paid up, and the cell phone going. The debit cards and credit cards hooked into them are the lifeblood of our living standards. Try to function even a day or two without them and you see what I mean.
Having them suddenly cut off is like falling into the abyss. You can march down to bank headquarters and demand answers but this much I promise you: you will get none. Probably no one there, not even the branch manager, has any answer. For whatever reason, the powers that be have decided that your account is not one they want and that is the end of it. There is no one to sue because no one did anything wrong. Granting banking services is at the discretion of the bank, period.
The problem is that the banking system is integral to the power itself, regulated by agencies and holding vast amounts of government debt in a system that is ultimately overseen by the legislative and executive branches. That makes banking political, not just in the United States but all over the world. The discovery by political elites that they can weaponize the banking system should alarm anyone and everyone simply because it allows the punishment of political enemies through surreptitious means.
The Free Press points to “ an emerging, bipartisan, anti-debanking bloc on Capitol Hill.” They quote Ro Khanna, a Democratic representative from California. “Every American should have the ability to take out a loan or save for their future without fear of discrimination or having their accounts closed without explanation.”

Indeed, that seems entirely reasonable. There needs to be some action taken before this gets out of hand, which it will very quickly in today’s contentious political environment.
Experts on this topic all agree: the debanked need to speak out about this now, posting letters and recording communications. It’s the only way we draw public attention to this.
There is a broader problem relating to the creation of social-credit systems around the world, most especially in China. Political compliance becomes a standard of inclusion in financial and social life generally. It’s a highly effective way that regimes can carefully and quietly control their citizens. It has no place in a free society and it seems like our laws ought to be clear about that.
Even if the technology allows it, even if the algorithms dictate it, we need systems in which banks and other financial institutions cannot end services for people without some explicitly cited reason and an opportunity for appeal, in addition to some legal recourse in the case of arbitrary action. Taking those steps would help underscore the point that this society aspires to be free and grant its citizens dignity and rights.

Views expressed in this article are opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
 
I can't legally say what I think should happen to banks that engage in this trend, so instead I'll just say this: I hope debanking becomes illegal, I hope the cultists who do it decide they're above the law and continue to do it anyway, and after a fair trial, I hope they get beaten to death in prison.
 
I can't really articulate why, but "Debanking" is probably one of the most disgusting terms from Current Year that I have ever heard.
Because it's denying you the right to live when it comes down to it. They want your dead and penniless and they'll laugh about it.
 
I won't go into details, but it happened to me on PayPal. They shut down my account with no explanation, nothing. I have my suspicions as to why--I contributed to a legal fund for J6 prisoners, for example, but there's no way to confirm this was the cause since PayPal wouldn't respond to my queries. I know PayPal isn't a bank, but it crippled me in a couple of ways.

But yes, banks and financial entities such as PayPal will continue to exercise this power even if it hurts them as well. Evil is its own satisfaction, I suppose.
 
Not quite a payment processor, but I was permanently banned from ebay with no explanation given. I suspect it was because I bought a copy of Mein Kampf to give as a gag gift to a jewish friend of mine lol. Anyways, I've tried to set up new accounts before, but they get me every time for ban evasion. I've still never got an explanation, and there is no way for me to talk to anyone from ebay about it. It's extremely frustrating to me because now the whole world of online selling is basically gone for me, there aren't any good alternatives.
 
Wait what? You might be confusing him with someone else.
This guy worked with Ron Paul and the Mises institute. Founded Brownstone which has been very pro freedom and anti-lockdown


I can't find it now but I swear I've seen a video of Jeffrey Tucker in his car eating McDonald's Mozzarella sticks and gushing over how amazing the free market is because he can get hot fresh mozzarella sticks effortlessly and very fast anywhere in Ameri

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It was on Facebook lol I bing searched "jeffrey tucker mcdonalds mozzarella sticks"
 
Wouldn’t “debanking” hurt bankers or cause other long term consequences?

If you’re preventing millions of people from using your bank, wouldn’t that defeat the whole purpose of having a bank in the first place?

Millions would adopt other services or even use crypto overnight, new financial ecosystems could be developed, and you’d see a decline in profits since you’ve banned half your user base while scaring off others who never intended to do anything “wrong” in the first place.
 
The only way to fight against it, if you have media clout is to do as Nigal Farrage did and name and shame. Then they are forced to capitulate like they did for him. But in this case i can see why they did not do it. His dad just lost the election and they wanted to memory hole him and demonise and hunt his family to get at him. If he wins tomorrow, he should string the bank up as a warning. Because only A++ class of dick sucking will be restitution for the hurt they caused.
 
I can't find it now but I swear I've seen a video of Jeffrey Tucker in his car eating McDonald's Mozzarella sticks and gushing over how amazing the free market is because he can get hot fresh mozzarella sticks effortlessly and very fast anywhere in Ameri
Is he wrong, though? Certainly its a much nicer alternative to what happens under Communism where you wait in line a few hours for a loaf of bread only to be told once you finally reach the head that they ran out thirty minutes after they started selling.
 
Is he wrong, though? Certainly its a much nicer alternative to what happens under Communism where you wait in line a few hours for a loaf of bread only to be told once you finally reach the head that they ran out thirty minutes after they started selling.
I make fun of Jeffrey Cucker because he's a simp faggot cuckold who is part of the anti-racist dildo libertarian clique.

It's trivial to talk shit about communism. We fucking get it. Nothing he has ever written or done is threatening to the status quo. He's a grifter bum and probably sucks cock. Allegedly. He's so fuckin irrelevant to the direction that innernet lunatic politics took since 2016 that no one even remembers his adventures simping for the gross jew bitch named Raisin something. I can't even remember her name.
 
Is he wrong, though? Certainly its a much nicer alternative to what happens under Communism where you wait in line a few hours for a loaf of bread only to be told once you finally reach the head that they ran out thirty minutes after they started selling.
Get raped, solzhenitsyn. We waited in lines (for sugar, not bread) under Yeltsyn, and that was at first when there were some price controls. I remember when the price of buckewheat rose tenfold overnight.
"Mom, it's twenty-seven per pack."
"What? Impossible, seven point two maybe? That's a lot."
"No, it's actually twenty-seven, go have a look."
 
The only way to fight against it, if you have media clout is to do as Nigal Farrage did and name and shame. Then they are forced to capitulate like they did for him.
This was an interesting one to watch play out. He called their bluff and it worked. What was very interesting was seeing the public response - in every article about it the comments were full of people who had similar things happen with zero accountability, no communication etc, just debarked and left. Ordinary people who had done things like donate to women’s causes that wanted women only shelters for example.
It should be illegal to debank someone without a clear and open reason presented before the person to respond to and with evidence of very restricted illegal activity. Not any illegal activity, stuff like ‘you are using this account to fund a war in Angola’ level
 
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