The Final Fantasy Thread

[Retarded Weeb]

yeah, but the MC of FF8 is a super cool stoic (not iDubbz stoic) super agent guy that has a teacher that has the hots for him and some beautiful girl approaches him to flirt with him, which is pretty much the opposite of an average jrpg player at that time, which was basically a dweeb otaku

That's focusing a bit much on the fantastical elements of the story, and fact that JRPGs heroes are by default more physically attractive than the average guy. Dweebs playing JRPGs also weren't super soldier mercenaries who had a girl with huge tits into them, like Cloud either. Looking past those elements, Squall is a teenager who's only stoic because he's afraid of becoming vulnerable via emotional attachments between himself and others, caused by him never knowing his dad and losing his mother and older sister when he was young. He hides his thoughts and feelings from others, which others then interpret as him being a cool-headed loner, but in actuality he doesn't like being responsible for others and only falls into leadership situations because he's blandly agreeable and apologetic when forced to interact with people because he thinks they'll leave him alone faster. If pushed by others to try and get closer, he'll swing to being bluntly rude because of the combination of discomfort and lack of social skills. While the circumstances behind him losing his family are extreme, his general attitude and malfunctions aren't entirely unrelatable to a many people.


On a side note, I think a lot of people have a somewhat distorted memory of Quistis. She was Squall's teacher, but she was only a year older than him and had only just gotten the job. She was by her own opinion terrible at it and not mature enough for it yet, despite being a great student which got her the job. She also only sort-of hit on Squall because she knew him from when they were kids, and so she was used to thinking of him as helpless and needing looking after, which isn't super flattering to Squall when you put it that way. And some people misremember her as wearing boots that kind of go with her dress and whip. She actually wears bulky pants and loafers. She's just a nerd.

 

[UnknownUser]

When I was a teenager and played FF8 I always saw him as a whiny emo bitch. But after playing the game again as an adult when it got remastered a few years back my opinion completely flipped.

Now he comes off as some dude just trying to do his job and figure himself out, but he's stuck with all these JRPG spergs being kawii anime faggots around him all the time. I really liked Zell and Selphie and everyone else when I was a kid. Now as adult they kinda suck and just want my boy Squall to get some peace lol. Even his rivalry with Siefer was almost completely one sided, it was all by Siefers own machinations he crossed paths with Squall, Squall didn't seem to care alot about Siefer one way or the other most of the game.

 

[Snekposter]

I find Auron really relatable. He's always been along for the ride, and in his full adulthood now bears the scars. He tries to do well by those around him but is highly competent, so he finds their foibles irritating. But he's known men far better than he, and remains permanently humbled by the role he gets to play.

Auron in KH2 was a hell of a fun character.

 

[Hyper Vigilant Dumbass]

What do you guys think about the Pixel Remasters? I've been playing the pixel remastered version of FF5 and I've really enjoyed it. There's some songs I think are not as good as the original OST, but other than that I'm pretty happy with it.

 

[Baguette Child]

What do you guys think about the Pixel Remasters? I've been playing the pixel remastered version of FF5 and I've really enjoyed it. There's some songs I think that aren't as good as the original OST, but other than that I'm pretty happy with it.

I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I actually did enjoy the set of pixel remasters- Though the Dawn Of Souls GBA version of FF I and II remains my favorite way to experience those two titles.

 

[Hyper Vigilant Dumbass]

I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I actually did enjoy the set of pixel remasters- Though the Dawn Of Souls GBA version of FF I and II remains my favorite way to experience those two titles.

I did not know it was an unpopular opinion. I enjoy playing FFI and FFII on the PSP. I really like the look and soundtrack of the PSP versions.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

What do you guys think about the Pixel Remasters? I've been playing the pixel remastered version of FF5 and I've really enjoyed it. There's some songs I think are not as good as the original OST, but other than that I'm pretty happy with it.

I think you're better off playing the originals if you want the original experience, or the GBA/PSP ports if you want extra content. The Pixel Remasters removed all the extra content on the basis of being closer to the original experiences, but the PR versions of I, II, and III are mostly based on the GBA and 3D versions with some other arbitrary balance changes so it's kind of head-tilting. IV, V, and VI have a lot of weird changes or bugs caused by them reusing code from previous PR games instead of accurately recreating the original game's implementation of something. IV PR also reduced encounter rate and buffed EXP gains to make it easier, which is weird since IV is already easy. The art style to the games is more appealing than those older smartphone versions of V and VI, but the clash between the low-res sprites and certain effects like fire and water which use high-res images or 3D graphics is kind of ugly, and it's annoying how all six games looks so similar down to reusing attack animations between games despite each of the originals having entirely unique animations.

 

[Hyper Vigilant Dumbass]

I think you're better off playing the originals if you want the original experience, or the GBA/PSP ports if you want extra content.

Thanks I'll keep this in mind if I ever decide to play VI. I've played I, II, and IV on the PSP, so I think I'll just emulate VI.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

Thanks I'll keep this in mind if I ever decide to play VI. I've played I, II, and IV on the PSP, so I think I'll just emulate VI.

As far as VI goes, the advantages to playing the SNES original is that the GBA version has some drawbacks due to hardware limitations: 1. the sound font doesn't sound as good; 2. colors are a little oversaturated (I think you can sort of fix this with a filter if you dig through emulator options tho); and 3. there's rarely some FPS drops the original didn't have, specifically in one or two town where's there's a lot of NPC on screen and during certain particularly flashing spell animations in battle.

The advantages to playing the GBA version is that 1. there's a handful of bugs in the original that the GBA version fixes like, like making the Evasions stats work properly or removing the chance for Relm's Sketch ability to brick your game; 2. the English script is a little more accurate; and 3. the extra endgame content is nice. I think the GBA version of V's extra content was the best since V's gameplay has the most depth to start so the post-game dungeon and superbosses could squeeze more out of it, with VI you can get so overpowered if you know how that you can even stomp the superbosses but still it's fairly fun.

 

[Lentil Soup]

what does other FF games' character offer? they're too outlandish and headstrong or too fantastical to be relatable

Sorry to be gay and retarded and late, but I highly recommend you go back and play FFVIII as an adult.

Other posters touched on it already, but the main cast are written as fairly realistic teenagers and it just works better when you have more life experience.

Not even gonna get into Squall, since other posters did it better but:
Irvine - trying his best to be a good soldier and save his country but can't bring himself to shoot his mom.
Quistis - burnt out honor's student given way too much responsibility too early just because she's smart.
Zell - good foil to the others due to having been raised in a normal family and not an orphanage for child soldiers.
Selphie - well, she's fun.
Rinoa - like Zell, seeing a completely normal teenager dropped into this mess of a group is an excellent foil.

Also shout out to General Caraway, who I thought was a total dick growing up and now I feel so bad for this poor single dad lol

 

[huckbeine]

Other posters touched on it already, but the main cast are written as fairly realistic teenagers and it just works better when you have more life experience.

Not even gonna get into Squall, since other posters did it better but:
Irvine - trying his best to be a good soldier and save his country but can't bring himself to shoot his mom.
Quistis - burnt out honor's student given way too much responsibility too early just because she's smart.
Zell - good foil to the others due to having been raised in a normal family and not an orphanage for child soldiers.
Selphie - well, she's fun.
Rinoa - like Zell, seeing a completely normal teenager dropped into this mess of a group is an excellent foil.

they all sound like annoying and edgy teenagers. there's a reason why Persona 3 isnt as loved as Persona 4 and 5, cause the supporting cast all act as annoying and edgy realistic teenagers. the cast of 4 and 5 are kind of teenagers you wish you have as friends

 

[Retarded Weeb]

there's a reason why Persona 3 isnt as loved as Persona 4 and 5, cause the supporting cast all act as annoying and edgy realistic teenagers.

But I like Persona 3's cast more than 4 and 5's.

the cast of 4 and 5 are kind of teenagers you wish you have as friends

People spent years shitting on FF and other JRPGs for starring teenagers that they claim is childish and they can't relate to it as an adult, and then Atlus makes literal highschool friend simulators and those same people jizz over getting to pretend they were popular at a teenager. Typical.

 

[Hyper Vigilant Dumbass]

One of my favorite things about Final Fantasy is the gigachad bro types. Barrett, Galuf, and Zell come to mind. Honorable mention to Lavitz from Legend of Dragoon though. He's the best gigachad bro.

 

[UnknownUser]

One of my favorite things about Final Fantasy is the gigachad bro types. Barrett, Galuf, and Zell come to mind. Honorable mention to Lavitz from Legend of Dragoon though. He's the best gigachad bro.

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Lavitz "Death don't mean shit" Slambert! Dude was awesome, shame we will never get that prequel game about the Dragon Campaign. Although if Sony made it today, everybody would be a gay brown lesbian or a tranny, led by the ugliest Asian "woman" you have ever seen.

 

[huckbeine]

But I like Persona 3's cast more than 4 and 5's.

People spent years shitting on FF and other JRPGs for starring teenagers that they claim is childish and they can't relate to it as an adult, and then Atlus makes literal highschool friend simulators and those same people jizz over getting to pretend they were popular at a teenager. Typical.

first, I don't think there's a lot of teenagers in FF, I think most of them are adults or 18. second, if they're teenagers, their angst is always about carrying the world's burden and world ending events, which is cringe.

Persona 3,4,5 are basically teenagers who have teenage angst and have growing up issues and affirming their own identity. that makes them relatable

 

[Retarded Weeb]

if they're teenagers, their angst is always about carrying the world's burden and world ending events, which is cringe.

You can easily find applicability between what an FF might angst over and what someone in reality might. Cloud's self-esteem issues, Squall's anxiety-induced avoidant personality, Zidane's identity issue he had over being adopted and not knowing where he came from, or Tidau's mommy and daddy issues. None of these things are even subtext, they're in your face if you actually pay attention. But I've come to the conclusion that most people who bitch about FF stories already decided they weren't going to get invested before they started playing and rush through while barely paying attention to what's going on, so they can't actually accurately describe anything they don't like about them.

Persona 3,4,5 are basically teenagers who have teenage angst and have growing up issues and affirming their own identity. that makes them relatable

You just said Persona 3's cast was worse when comparing to FF8's cast because they're annoyingly "realistic", and now you say the Persona 3-5 casts are better because they have relatably realistic worries? Make up your mind. Sounds like you just don't like games set in fantasy settings.

 

[Berrakh]

Good LORD what is happening in here?!

 

[huckbeine]

Persona 3 cast are cringe when they are mulling about the game's theme of memento mori, specially when they're still teenagers.

But when they're dealing with teenager issues like getting fat, like a teenager would, they are more human and endearing than the average FF character. DIFFERENCE!

most FF characters are too larger than life, and I get why they need to be, but most of the time, their personal struggles are still too outlandish for a normal person to relate to. at least with FF15, the guys banter a lot during their roadtrip make them a bit endearing

 

[huckbeine]

Good LORD what is happening in here?!

gamergate 3, ethics in analyzing FF characters

 

[foam rolla]

Sorry, I'm a 3D guy. I was thinking about giving 9 a try but Ive been waiting on the remake news.

Whenever the hell they decide to release it.

I wouldn't bother waiting for remake. IF a remake happens, it probably won't be the same game as the original sort of like how the FF7 remakes aren't the same as the OG.

Just get the Steam version and you can always try mods if you want to upgrade the graphics.