The Dead Internet Theory

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AtomicShrimp has done some videos explaining the very chatty YouTube bot phenomenon. tl;dr just more ways to get around content detection. The use of hacked accounts makes it even more difficult (and creepy)
 
Not individual bot users, but have you guys noticed a large uptick in content farms over the past few years? They're basically the website equivalent of a bot.

Search for damn near anything these days and the first page will usually be half-full of results titled “The Best [search term] of [current year]” or "How to [search term] in [current year]", from one of these content farm sites that exists solely to rank highly in search engine results. They'll even have names and URLs that sound plausibly like a hobby or fan website, but if you actually visit them, the whole thing is just listicles and how-to articles that read like they've been generated by some sort of AI.

I wish there was a script to just toss any results with the year in the title.
 
Sperghetti said:
Not individual bot users, but have you guys noticed a large uptick in content farms over the past few years? They're basically the website equivalent of a bot.

Search for damn near anything these days and the first page will usually be half-full of results titled “The Best [search term] of [current year]” or "How to [search term] in [current year]", from one of these content farm sites that exists solely to rank highly in search engine results. They'll even have names and URLs that sound plausibly like a hobby or fan website, but if you actually visit them, the whole thing is just listicles and how-to articles that read like they've been generated by some sort of AI.

I wish there was a script to just toss any results with the year in the title.
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They've always existed, but until recently they were relatively suppressed on the big search engines, by their constantly updated algos. Now that google et al are focused on The Message, and less on preventing SEO cracking, content farms have a much easier time promoting themselves and are becoming more prominent again. Search was already becoming useless and no longer giving even remotely optimal results, but the endless spam of pajeet blogs, filled with retarded "solutions" to every search term you can think of, is becoming a real pain in the arse.
 

"The face jumped out at me as being fake," said DiResta, a veteran researcher who has studied Russian disinformation campaigns and anti-vaccine conspiracies. To her trained eye, these anomalies were red flags that Ramsey's photo had likely been created by artificial intelligence.
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Social media accounts using computer-generated faces have pushed Chinese disinformation; harassed activists; and masqueraded as Americans supporting former President Donald Trump and independent news outlets spreading pro-Kremlin propaganda.
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As artificial intelligence advances, he and other researchers expect it to become harder to detect computer-created images with the naked eye — not to mention fake audio and video, like the heavily manipulated video that circulated on social media recently purporting to show Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy calling on his soldiers to surrender.

Computer-generated faces are "the canary in the coal mine," Farid said. "It's the beginning of what is coming next, which is full blown audio-video deepfakes targeted to a specific person."
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NPR comes through warning you that the pretty girl contacting you on LinkedIn might be related to Kremlin Anti-vax campaigns!!!1!one!
 
Bad Take Crucifier said:
There are many examples of much of the Internet being a... massive bot net, here's an example of how someone tested this on 4chan.

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They change their tactics ever since they kept failing in changing the opinion of the mass in 4chan, now all they do is spam the board all day to keep the board uninteresting.
For example, the Ukraine and Russian war begin, you can see a lot of thread created in support for Ukraine.
 
ᴁxlu$ive said:
They change their tactics ever since they kept failing in changing the opinion of the mass in 4chan, now all they do is spam the board all day to keep the board uninteresting.
For example, the Ukraine and Russian war begin, you can see a lot of thread created in support for Ukraine.
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>making things up to make 4chinz seem more interesting
 
Its kinda like the MGS2 ending isnt it? except its not about helping but about control

The internet was a huge destabilizing force for the information establishment. Their new meme is that we're living in a "post-truth" world but thats been business as usual since forever, just look at any newspaper from decades ago and see them shill things we now know are 100% bullshit propaganda which years later gets debunked but by then normalfags dont care and are too busy eating the new bullshit propaganda

But the real problem is that the internet took the information monopoly away from the establishment and we cant have that no sir! The dead internet theory its not so crazy after you take a look at the massive panic that was trump getting elected. Until then the establishment had been slow to react to the internet fucking it in the ass, old media had been reluctant to change thinking that its a fad and as millennials get older they would go back to newspapers, but then boomers switched to the internet, and when trump got elected the writing was on the wall

What you got to understand is that old media is part of the establishment apparatus, you never got to grow beyond a zine or a tabloid at best if you truly went against it. But the internet changed that, and social media indirectly poured gasoline into that fire as a side effect of their greed for clicks

However the key factor is internet becoming more retarded, it has made the job of the establishment way easier. 4chan likes to brag but 99.9999% of the content there are memes and short shitposts not unlike twitter and thats dead-easy to emulate by a bot. Even the best GPT-3 AI wouldnt be able to post the kind of forum discussions that happened in the old days, not without making some major mistakes that would give it away as a bot

Back in the day shitposts were more elaborate, and even retardposts like the "I like halo he kill aliens" were made by people who were socially retarded but could still figure out a browser. Normalfags only got online when smartphones butchered the web into a bunch of apps that have no learning curve whatsoever

Right now I assume every fpbp/op is a faggot/random pepe/gigachad post on 4chan and every gif post of an annoying nigger or kpop gook on twitter are made by bots, its just so fucking easy to automate it and you cant really tell the difference because the bar is so low odds are it could be an actual person

But my point is this: the internet is dead not just because of bots but because the vast majority of people on it are so fucking retarded and influenciable now that any spook or megacorp can easily steer them to do whatever they want, FOR FREE
HeyItsHarveyMacClout said:
I remember back in 2016, after the election of trump, a document was leaked that discussed how Share Blue and other liberal think tanks were going to divide Trumps supporter base in light of his success. Among them were things like saying he abandoned them, discrediting all his accomplishment and using all of his compromises as weaknesses, and saying that Trump didn’t actually represent modern right wing ideology. There were other tactics in there too, like banning conservative hubs and disenfranchising websites using financial tools. It’s scary how accurate that document was in retrospect. I remember laughing at it, saying to myself “this is absurd. We’ve won. The election of trump is going to start a new age of conservatism”. Looks like we were playing checkers while they were playing chess
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Got a link to that document? the only similar thing I seen is that nyt article were some cunt said they literally lied about everything to get der sniffer elected
Nathan Higgers said:
Perhaps the real bots were the e-girls we met on the interwebz.
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Looking at the amount of millennial troons I'm now convinced that every single girl who wanted to cybersex on habbo hotel was actually a guy
 
Sperghetti said:
Not individual bot users, but have you guys noticed a large uptick in content farms over the past few years? They're basically the website equivalent of a bot.

Search for damn near anything these days and the first page will usually be half-full of results titled “The Best [search term] of [current year]” or "How to [search term] in [current year]", from one of these content farm sites that exists solely to rank highly in search engine results. They'll even have names and URLs that sound plausibly like a hobby or fan website, but if you actually visit them, the whole thing is just listicles and how-to articles that read like they've been generated by some sort of AI.

I wish there was a script to just toss any results with the year in the title.
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I've noticed a lot of websites that simply relist other websites while still appearing high on the search results because they basically copy the titles from the other sites.
 
Cool Dog said:
Looking at the amount of millennial troons I'm now convinced that every single girl who wanted to cybersex on habbo hotel was actually a guy
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I was going to make a snarky comment about how everyone knows that there are no girls on the internet, but now that you mention it… in a way, isn't trooning out just a way to keep pretending to be an attractive girl online in the age of selfies and TikTok videos? I mean, we always knew that every 18/f/Cali in the AOL chat room was probably, in reality, a greasy 40-year-old man from Nebraska. Now the greasy, 40-year-old men are taking hormones and growing out their hair to basically keep up the same con.

Crazy when you think that some of these guys probably grew up to be the same type of internet sex offenders their parents and teachers warned them about.
 
Sperghetti said:
Not individual bot users, but have you guys noticed a large uptick in content farms over the past few years? They're basically the website equivalent of a bot.
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Yes, I lately noticed a sharp uptick of blogspam websites showing up in search results, not like it was in recent years where this was common but easy to filter but really to the point where it's basically all blogspam if it isn't a result from a known website like reddit or stack exchange. Actually following the links leads you usually to a blog-style post that talks about the topic you googled, theethering on the coherent, often repeating completely obvious and generic points and never really saying anything at all. I am sure that these are indeed AI generated texts, if you played around with GPT-3 stuff they look strikingly familiar. (especially this repeating of information just stated in just slightly different words that sounds like a forgetful person assuring themselves is a hallmark of the smaller 6b and below models) Now that the OpenAI gatekeeping is over and Eleutherai has published free-for-all opensource models and also Facebook has released a free 13b Model (and also one 30b and one 175b model for non-commercial uses which I am sure will always be respected) I guess the AI apocalypse is on us.

I played around with OpenAIs 175b "da Vinci" model when they still handled API keys out like candy and it was almost scary clever sometimes. Soon most of the internet will be unusable because of AI spam. Who would've thought the AI apocalypse would be that mundane? No chrome skeletons with austrian accent, just neverending blog posts about the nutritional value of rice. I don't really follow twitter but twitter threads and the short nature of twitter posts are a perfect usage scenario for this kind of text generation. It's probably already crawling with AI, and if it isn't it soon will be.

(EDIT: Interesting thing to note, there was a paper recently that basically came to the conclusion that we didn't train all these models too well, so if you are only following this topic half-heartedly - there's a good possibility there soon will be models that will punch way above their weight - needing a lot less resources to do a lot more)
 
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The consequences of Musk buying Twitter:

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Creepy.
 
Try refreshing 4chan /pol/ some time. Do it a few times over the course of a few minutes...

The last post number of each thread should always be newer (greater) than the last post number of the thread below it. Because threads should be bumped by new posts, or at the very least, threads should not be inexplicably bumped with no new posts.

But this is not the case; instead you will see that older threads with no new posts in them are often being bumped to the front page.

I believe this is being done intentionally, to drive some topics up in popularity, and other topics down in popularity. Though it is also possibly that the automatic thread bumping without new posts is purely random. But it is still not a normal behavior for any chan site.
 
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TheSkoomer said:
Try refreshing 4chan /pol/ some time. Do it a few times over the course of a few minutes...

The last post number of each thread should always be newer (greater) than the last post number of the thread below it. Because threads should be bumped by new posts, or at the very least, threads should not be inexplicably bumped with no new posts.

But this is not the case; instead you will see that older threads with no new posts in them are often being bumped to the front page.

I believe this is being done intentionally, to drive some topics up in popularity, and other topics down in popularity. Though it is also possibly that the automatic thread bumping without new posts is purely random. But it is still not a normal behavior for any chan site.
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Why do people talk of 4chan like it was the be-all-end-all of the internet when it's just a bunch of has-been faggots.
 
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