The Creativity Movement - White Nationlism is now a religion

[krautkid]

Every day of the week the Jews pour out volumes of scurrilous lies and invective against Adolf Hitler although he has now been dead for over 35 years. It would take billions of dollars a year to buy the vicious propaganda that the Jews pour out all over the world vilifying Hitler.

The most literal use of 'Hitler did nothing wrong' that I have ever seen. Amazing.

 

[Benny Liggins]

"Our religion is based on love"
"We hate Jews"

Okay

 

[TheImportantFart]

The thing that boggles my mind about people like this is how they look at evolution like it's a moral benchmark rather than a scientific process. Nobody should base their morality around scientific processes because by that logic we shouldn't invent planes or things that fly because it goes against gravity.

 

[Emperor Julian]

Also their understanding of evolution sucks as genetic diversity, compassion and restraint are very useful survival traits.

 

[Sailor_Jupiter]

It's tough to be naturally superior to everyone else but still be constantly thwarted by THE JOOOS.

 

[StraightShooter]

It's basically a white rip-off of the "Black Hebrew Israelites" cult, but with the races reversed; jist of it is something along the lines of Jesus having actually been an anglo-Saxon, and that Anglos are the "true Israelites" from the Bible, and all other races are the spawn of Satan impregnating Eve or some shit like that...

 

[Antipathy]

So, has it occurred to any of these guys that the earliest humans (and therefore the genetic origin of all humanity) came from Africa? White skin was a mutation in the northern, less sunny regions that was advantageous for reasons I forget.

 

[AnOminous]

So, has it occurred to any of these guys that the earliest humans (and therefore the genetic origin of all humanity) came from Africa? White skin was a mutation in the northern, less sunny regions that was advantageous for reasons I forget.

Vitamin D absorption. Also it takes a lot of metabolic energy to produce melanin and it's mainly useful for UV shielding, which you don't need in a northern climate.

 

[Steve Mayers]

A rather strange ramble at the Creativity Movement website. Author "Rev Jane" claims the white race is the victim of gaslighting.
http://creativitymovement.net/blog/gaslighting-the-white-race/

Gaslighting the White Race

March 19, 2017 Blog



The last couple of weeks I have been looking at various articles and videos about narcissistic personality disorder.

Last night I had a dream where the idea came to me that the White Race, if it were a person, is a person who is being effectively “gaslighted” by a pathological narcissist.

People who have this disorder are cold and calculating. They appear charismatic to other people and pretend to be interested and enthusiastic about what others are doing, when they are honing in on a victim to exploit.

They first charm their victim, then by degrees calculatedly make their victim feel that they themselves are bad and worthless and guilty. The victim ends up with Stockholm syndrome – which is named after a situation in which some people were taken hostage in Stockholm, Sweden and ended up genuinely wanting to defend their abusive kidnappers from prosecution.

It has been said before that the White Race appears to have a case of Stockholm Syndrome but I have yet to read anyone observe the mechanics of the relationship between the victimised White Race and the abuser in terms of: codependent and pathological narcissist. The idea is very much along the same lines however.

Vulnerable people in a close relationship with a narcissist undergo a process called “gaslighting”. After the initial phase of convincing the victim that the narcissist is a truly wonderful person, and (in the case of a partnership) the true soul mate of the victim – the devious narcissist sets about diminishing the other person, called the “codependent” by snide put-downs and blaming them for spurious wrong-doings. This is called “gaslighting” in reference to the 1944 film called “Gaslight”. In the film a psychopathic husband drives his wife mad so that she will trust him and not realise he murdered her aunt.

Some could say examples of gaslighting on the White Race would include – that the White Race is evil and to blame for slavery and all aggressive racism in the world or that endless compensation is owed to the Jews because of “the Holocaust”. Meanwhile people think of the Jews as being wonderful talented and hard-done-by and Israel as a great ally nation regardless of their anger and hate towards us and their nukes aimed at Europe and warmongering attempts that we are supposed to assist them with.

The technique of total chutzpah, telling the biggest lies over and over again with confidence – ie the “big lie” technique that Adolf Hitler identified as a Jewish propaganda method – and of course the technique of “accuse your accuser” – all fall in exactly with gaslighting.

The opponents of Donald Trump have brought up the subjects of narcissism and gaslighting to accuse him. However this is classic “accuse your accuser” – by using narcissitic gaslighting technique to demonise Trump.

They are dragging up trivia that no one regards as important such as suggesting he is “gaslighting”(when it is in fact them) by saying his electoral win is bigger than they want to say it is. These things are so silly that their own gaslighting intentions are clear. They want to drive the reader crazy, thinking that small details like that mean Trump should be impeached and thrown into prison. It beggars belief.

As well as this, the mainstream media is gaslighting in other ways. Take their insistence that Russia has been influencing election results and referendum results all around the world through hacking. This is combined with as many stories they can come up with about Putin (and of course they do this with Trump as well) that hold no weight at all but which are lies told with repeated chutzpah ignoring the facts. Over and over and over.

Many people are feeling as if they are going crazy because of this gaslighting. But it only works as long as people have the “co-dependent” mindset. As long as people lack confidence in themselves and lack love for the White race, instead believing the hostile establishment is their master and looks after them, then they will continue to be effectively gaslighted.

Psychologists know that the “codependent” of the narcissist will never be free until they get out of their “self-love deficit disorder”. And here is the key to the job we Creators face in straightening out the White man’s thinking and the method our enemy uses to prevent our race from escaping exploitation.

by Rev Jane

 

[Feline Darkmage]

It's basically a white rip-off of the "Black Hebrew Israelites"

Who would win in a fight: Black Jesus or White Jesus?

A rather strange ramble at the Creativity Movement website. Author "Rev Jane" claims the white race is the victim of gaslighting.

As if they needed any more uncanny similarity to certain elements of the Social Justice Warriors...

 

[AnOminous]

Who would win in a fight: Black Jesus or White Jesus?

Whoever had the rights for the PPV of the fight.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Who would win in a fight: Black Jesus or White Jesus?

Neither. People in the Biblical Levant were somewhere in between.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Whoever had the rights for the PPV of the fight.

So, the Jews?

 

[DykesDykesChina]

So, has it occurred to any of these guys that the earliest humans (and therefore the genetic origin of all humanity) came from Africa? White skin was a mutation in the northern, less sunny regions that was advantageous for reasons I forget.

Ah, this reminds me. Some time ago, an antique bookstore near my back-then-home was closed (which was sad) and they threw out all their books at lowest prices (which was great for me).

Among the loot (I took out an insane amount of books which I could hardly carry which prompted a very cute girl to crack a very cute joke at my expense which was really sweet), there was this utterly strange volume, which upon closer inspection turned out to be a kind of lolcow in literary form.

"Stalk-Eye the Primeval Crab. A Chronicle from Our Earth's Earliest Times."

by one Batti Dohm.

It's the story of our hero Stalk-Eye, a trilobite who experiences the evolution of life from early arthropods to humans -- told from the perspective of World Ice Theory, which was an utterly exceptional "cosmogonic theory" from the early 20th century, shat out by one Hanns Hörbiger from Austria who considered his dreams to be visions from god. Basically, it states that the "fire and ice" creation myth from the Germanic Edda is scientifically true -- Young World Creationism for Valhalla enthusiasts. Unsurprisingly, this "theory" became a favorite for many Nazis and to this day some fallout can still be found in the more lunatic-fringey corners of the intarwebz.

The Stalk-Eye story is a weird combination of trilobite snuff porn (and you guys thought this stuff affected only Smurf enthusiasts...), pseudo-Christian-pagan mysticism and racism. Battles between different species' of marine arthropods are described in deviant detail, with blood and gore and ripped-off body parts drenching page after page -- alternating with world-shaking natural disasters causing even more carnage; most of all, as stated by World Shit Theory, the moon repeatedly crashes into earth (following each collision, earth attracts a new moon from outer space by hurling out large fountains of gas -- physics is not these people's strong point). After each chapter, God looks out from heaven upon corpse-scattered earth "and He saw that it was all well", making god somewhat similar to that one baby Smurf torture freak or Fluffy fans, methinks. Things get even more exceptional when the story reaches the evolution of humans: Y'know, we actually came from an idyllic tropical island, where the first humans dwelt naked under the hot sun while being blond and fair-skinned Aryans. Um, sunburn much?? Dohm tells an utterly implausible story -- no, "implausible" isn't the word, because it suggests that with some changes, plausibility could be re-established, it's more L. Ron Hubbard on Angel Dust kinda stuff... his tropical island Aryans migrate to Europe, fight some evul Niggos, and finally establish the Great German Nation. That book was published in 1942. In the last chapter, a team of strapping muscular young boys (very obviously supposed to be Hitler Youth) unearths Stalk-Eye's fossilized remains and help him achieve final glory in a display box.

Reading this stuff was a once-of-its-kind experience... a roller-coaster ride of insanity, or actually somewhat like studying the worldview of the more bizarre lolcows on Kiwi Farms.

 

[Autistic Illuminati]

so, they say to believe natural law and that non white are slaughtering whites peoples,
basically saying that non whites are the dominant species and superior to the white race

 

[Jungle Princess]

Ah, this reminds me. Some time ago, an antique bookstore near my back-then-home was closed (which was sad) and they threw out all their books at lowest prices (which was great for me).

Among the loot (I took out an insane amount of books which I could hardly carry which prompted a very cute girl to crack a very cute joke at my expense which was really sweet), there was this utterly strange volume, which upon closer inspection turned out to be a kind of lolcow in literary form.

"Stalk-Eye the Primeval Crab. A Chronicle from Our Earth's Earliest Times."

by one Batti Dohm.

It's the story of our hero Stalk-Eye, a trilobite who experiences the evolution of life from early arthropods to humans -- told from the perspective of World Ice Theory, which was an utterly exceptional "cosmogonic theory" from the early 20th century, shat out by one Hanns Hörbiger from Austria who considered his dreams to be visions from god. Basically, it states that the "fire and ice" creation myth from the Germanic Edda is scientifically true -- Young World Creationism for Valhalla enthusiasts. Unsurprisingly, this "theory" became a favorite for many Nazis and to this day some fallout can still be found in the more lunatic-fringey corners of the intarwebz.

The Stalk-Eye story is a weird combination of trilobite snuff porn (and you guys thought this stuff affected only Smurf enthusiasts...), pseudo-Christian-pagan mysticism and racism. Battles between different species' of marine arthropods are described in deviant detail, with blood and gore and ripped-off body parts drenching page after page -- alternating with world-shaking natural disasters causing even more carnage; most of all, as stated by World Shit Theory, the moon repeatedly crashes into earth (following each collision, earth attracts a new moon from outer space by hurling out large fountains of gas -- physics is not these people's strong point). After each chapter, God looks out from heaven upon corpse-scattered earth "and He saw that it was all well", making god somewhat similar to that one baby Smurf torture freak or Fluffy fans, methinks. Things get even more exceptional when the story reaches the evolution of humans: Y'know, we actually came from an idyllic tropical island, where the first humans dwelt naked under the hot sun while being blond and fair-skinned Aryans. Um, sunburn much?? Dohm tells an utterly implausible story -- no, "implausible" isn't the word, because it suggests that with some changes, plausibility could be re-established, it's more L. Ron Hubbard on Angel Dust kinda stuff... his tropical island Aryans migrate to Europe, fight some evul Niggos, and finally establish the Great German Nation. That book was published in 1942. In the last chapter, a team of strapping muscular young boys (very obviously supposed to be Hitler Youth) unearths Stalk-Eye's fossilized remains and help him achieve final glory in a display box.

Reading this stuff was a once-of-its-kind experience... a roller-coaster ride of insanity, or actually somewhat like studying the worldview of the more bizarre lolcows on Kiwi Farms.

This book sounds hilarious.

so, they say to believe natural law and that non white are slaughtering whites peoples,
basically saying that non whites are the dominant species and superior to the white race

I've heard something similar about SJWs accidentally promoting white supremacy.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

I legit thought this was some kind of artistic movement when I read the title on chat.

It's an autistic movement. It's an easy mistake to make.

 

[Harm]

Stumbled across this Matthew F. Hale figure while researching a quote from the Talmud which led me to a 1998 internal report from the U.S. Army about the shooting two members of this "religion" carried out while in the Army and it's dragged me down an autistic rabbit hole.

To start, I deeply suspect the whole "religious" angle to this group is a legalistic ploy to leverage the supposed protections for religious expression to avoid persecution for their beliefs as white supremacists. It's obviously ideological and holds certain naturalistic elements of racism to heart, but it's apparently also a "non-theistic" religion? Sounds like a bunch of atheist skinheads who think nature has privileged them and it's their rightful throne as white man and yadda, yadda, yadda. Not surprising they have a thread, but it's a bit shocking that there's not more attention paid to Matt Hale's bizarre story.

He kept jumping from one white supremacist group to another because he grew to hate various religions associated with his movement of the month. Hale only became involved with the organization a short year before Ben Klassen's suicide, and took over a couple years thereafter. He'd go on to marry a teenager in 1997 while studying to become a lawyer (they divorced after 3 months), and was refused a law license in Illinois because of their insistence that all white supremacist ideology will always result in inciting violence despite Hale proselytizing for non-violence. He hired Glenn Greenwald (yes, Rumble's Glenn Greenwald) to represent himself in an attempt to overturn this decision. Even though contemporary legal speculation at the time was that this would be easily overturned, they lost due to jurisdiction issues and he's been refused a license his whole life.

That's only the beginning as he would rename their organization to the World Church of the Creator only to lose the trademark in a ridiculous decision by a judge married to a Jew to an obscure Christian organization on the other side of the country in Oregon called Church of the Creator. He originally won the lawsuit, then lost it on appeals, and not only lost the trademark, but was instructed by the judge to destroy every written material with their organization's name printed on it. He sued her personally over this decision, and when he was on his way to meet for a scheduling conference in that lawsuit, was instead arrested. It turned out an FBI agent who'd been planted as one of Hale's bodyguards and top men had been recording himself egging Hale on to condone violence against the judge for nearly 3 years, until they finally had this exchange:

On December 5, Evola went to Hale's home unannounced to discuss the email “about the Jew judge” and, in particular, Hale's request to locate her home address:

Hale:  That information, yes, for educational purposes and for whatever reason you wish it to be.

Evola:  Are we gonna․ I'm workin' on it. I, I got a way of getting it. Ah, when we get it, we gonna exterminate the rat?

Hale:  Well, whatever you wanna do․

Evola:  Jew rat?

Hale:  Basically, it's, you know? Ah, my position's always been that I, you know, I'm gonna fight within the law and but ah, that information's been pro-, provided. If you wish to, ah, do anything yourself, you can, you know?

Evola:  Okay.

Hale:  So that makes it clear.

Evola:  Consider it done.

Hale:  Good.

They gave him 40 years solid in federal prison. I'm not going to lose sleep because he's a fucking pedo and fucking retarded, but it's still fascinating how much went into thwarting this one man because of his wrongthink. Hold on though, because I couldn't leave it there. Looking back, that original Church of the Creator group which sued Matthew Hale caught my eye, particularly when I saw their logo.



It's literally just a dove in the Star of David. Then I wanted to look and find a video of a church sermon to learn what it's like to follow the Church of the Creator, and found their YouTube channel (PreserveTube for whole channel).

PreserveTube

It's complete gibberish nonsense. It feels designed to make you not want to watch it, but I took in every second of it to parse it out. The basic idea is that we are all God and God is within us all and we are one, but with schizo-babble and fixation over benign terms like "stabilize" to pad the runtime. They look and sound old as shit, and their last video was from the Covid-19 era, specifically Easter 2020, so it's unclear if these two individuals are still alive:

PreserveTube

They really love that Star of David, even have it in gold, oy vey! Fortunately, they're still operating as a church and their website is still maintained. Except this is where I made a bizarre discovery. The link in the video description, the thing which I'd presume this video is driving people towards, is a dead link. No worries. Me being the epic hackerman that I am, I booted up the Wayback Machine, but lo and behold:



Uhm, excuse me? I've never seen this happen outside of Fetlife and Kiwi Farms. What the fuck? I kept digging, and found they have a newsletter as recently as August 28th of this year and opened it up. It's mainly shilling a Zoom call they held in September, but there's a couple oddities. The first one I spotted was the mantra:



Kodoish? That sounds kinda... Nah, it couldn't be.



Come the fuck on. How more heavily Jew-coded can they make this "Christian" religion? This leaves the question of what the fuck these people believe. Virtually all sources call them a Christian denomination, but these people are clearly working on some malformed New Age Judaism. Well, that newsletter still has our second breadcrumb.



"The Plan For the Order of Melchizedek?" When I was poking around their website and specifically their "Ministry Portal" I found this helpful & insane wall of text. I'm going to cut out the bare minimum to make some sense of what these lunatics are preaching.

TL;DR (I cut out a LOT of fluff): Heaven is coming to Earth on October 4th, 2004 (happy 20th anniversary!), and 18 lucky Jews Christians will be taking a vacation to Springfield to visit the great Sneed Caverns where they will suck and fuck their way along the Rainbow Bridge. So, are they even Christians then? He doesn't really come up in any of this messaging yet. Eventually I did find a mention of him on their Youtube channel, and they see him as a failure due to choosing men as his disciples:



They technically still see him as divine, so maybe they're True & Honest Christians in the same way Chris Chan is a woman. This shit is lunacy. Who the fuck would be "practicing" this religious 20 year plan to create Heaven on Earth one retreat to Missouri at a time? There's a couple people in the comments of their Youtube videos that we can check out to get an idea. These are accounts that commented half a decade ago on videos that have less than a couple hundred views each. Surely this is some real, fresh, out in the wild practitioners:

Pastor Tabitha Taylor


No content herself, but she has several playlists including "newage," "Prophetic," "hypnosis," and "Angel Music."



Someone using the same name and same pfp has a, wait for it, Hebrew inspired blog where they write about their New Age Judaism.

Annette Nadeau


Not even playlists on her YouTube, but we know this is ostensibly a real human being because of this:



Sole proprietor of a "Mass & Healing Arts of the Heart" which is located at a home residence in New Hampshire which you cannot see with Google street view, but has a photo listed on some realtor websites:



So, it's a bunch of rich Jews with the mental capacity of Chris Chan bringing their own Dimensional Merge through vacations and Zoom calls. I halfway want to call bullshit and accuse this of being a front to have an excuse to buttfuck Matt Hale forever, but this seems insane enough to be plausible in the end. Kinda makes the whole Creativity Movement look tame by comparison.

Anyways, if you've been watching this thread for 7 years and were wondering why it got bumped nearly a decade later, this all started because I wanted to know whether the quote "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves" was truly from the Talmud or not, and I still have no idea. The initial US Army report I found says that Matt Hale would fabricate quotes from the Talmud as well as take some out of context, so it's hard to know for sure and the Jews are keeping this one close to the chest. They're sneaky little fellas.

 

[ArnoldPalmer]

"Our religion is based on love"
"We hate Jews"

Okay

They love to hate jews, I don't see what's so hypocritical.