Opinion The Corinna Cohn-undrum - Gender-critical figures Corinna Cohn (tranny) and Matt Walsh (cuckservative) are accused of stealing credit from feminists

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I usually stay out of drama when it occurs in radical feminist and wider gender critical spheres for the sake of my sanity. Usually, it’s not something worth my time anyway - petty infighting or a larger issue, I’m glad to be part of a community which calls out those who do or say messed up things regardless. However, I’ve chosen to cover this particular incident, now a couple of weeks old, because I believe it’s a symptom of a larger issue, one which we might not give nearly enough thought but is extraordinarily important in any feminist’s fight against not just transgender ideology, but patriarchy as a whole.

This situation unfolded on 5th December, when Corinna Cohn, a man who calls himself a transsexual, made an Twitter/X post that is as follows:

I’m a transsexual and a vocal critic of gender ideology/queer theory. In 2014, to distinguish my viewpoint from radical feminism I began calling it “gender critical.” The term was first acknowledged by trans activists who claimed that it was an attempt to “whitewash” the term TERF.

I began documenting TRA uses of the term TERF on Tumblr (http://terfisaslur.tumblr.com) and created the hashtag #terfisaslur. From 2014 to 2015 I used the account @GenerCrit to popularize my criticism of gender ideology. In 2015, under threat of doxxing, I outed myself in an article written by Michelle Goldberg called “The transwomen who say transwomen aren’t women.” This is al [sic] verifiable history.

Gender Critical from the beginning has been an opposition to the conflation of sex and gender identity in law and policy. Gender critical has a limited scope. It’s not anti-trans, it’s not pro-LGB; however, ensuring that biological sex classes are acknowledged and protected can only help those two groups.

If you call yourself “gender critical” then you have merged yourself into a trend created by a transsexual. Congratulations! If you believe the same things I do, I embrace you, at least as far as this issue is concerned. If you feel moral disgust or revulsion now that you realize what you’ve gotten yourself into, then bye-bye! Don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

As you can see, Cohn seems to insinuate that he came up with the term “gender critical”, and alleges that he created a hashtag and blog to archive examples of transactivists using TERF in a manner akin to a slur. In his final paragraph, he says that the trend of “gender critical” was the work of a transsexual - more specifically, himself. It seems as though he was already trying to set up the inevitable backlash as pure “moral outrage”, as though everyone who would be rightfully upset at such an outrageous claim was just some trans-hater.

Cohn’s claims of running a Tumblr blog dedicated to cataloguing transactivist misogyny are unsubstantiated. The blog in question, terfisaslur.tumblr.com (not to be confused with terfisaslur.com, which Cohn makes no mention of) has been active since January 2014, which roughly lines up with Cohn’s timeline of events. However, the blog has been inactive for the last nine years, with no way to get in touch with its owner and verify that this actually was Cohn’s work. His Twitter thread offers no evidence that this was him, and the same goes for his purported creation of the #terfisaslur hashtag.

As for the Michelle Goldberg article which Cohn mentions, this does exist, and the writer says that he created one of the first gender critical trans blogs in 2012, though this is contradicted by Cohn himself, who says that he created the gender critical trend in 2014.

Three days after this initial post, Cohn doubled down while on the Heterodorx podcast, run by himself and Nina Paley. The episode, which discussed everything from Crohn’s Disease jokes to admitted autogynephile Phil Illy donning a dress at the Genspect conference, was also were Cohn spoke a little more on his supposed creation of the gender critical movement. Here’s what he said in response to Paley claiming that those wary of Illy are not gender critical:

And they also hate the term. They disavow it, and will not use it, and will say that they absolutely are not gender critical because gender doesn’t exist. And then when some tr*nny [censoring is mine] comes along and says ‘Hey, I helped create this movement’, then they get all upset about it, Nina.

Here, Cohn is the “some tr*nny” whom he speaks of. His Twitter post and statement on the podcast make it pretty clear that he believes that he kickstarted gender criticism as a trend, and from what it looks like, he may also be alleging that he coined the term “gender critical” itself.

As Cohn has said, this supposedly happened in 2014. Now, anyone with a mere portion of knowledge about the history of gender criticism is well aware of the now-banned Reddit community r/gendercritical, the earliest archive of which is from 29th September 2013. At that point, it had been around for nine days, being created on the 20th. This is several months before Cohn’s first post to what he says was his Tumblr blog. In addition, r/gendercritical was a thriving radical feminist community, and even before the subreddit existed, gender criticism itself was intertwined with radical feminism, which is directly contradictory to Cohn’s claim that he used the term to distinguish his viewpoint from radical feminism.

If that’s not enough, writing using the term “gender critical feminists” was published the day before r/gendercritical was created, and this article mentioning gender criticism was published on 2nd August 2013. Google Trends data also shows that “gender critical” has been a term searched up since 2004, which is as far back as their data collection goes. Spikes of the term being searched increase around 2015-16, but this can be attributed to a multitude of factors, such as I Am Jazz being published in September 2014, or Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner coming out as transgender in April 2015 (and subsequently winning Woman of the Year). Simply put, increasing frequency of these online searches is very likely a result of the general public growing more aware of transgenderism, as well as the backlash to it.

Not far back enough? Oxford English Dictionary states that the first known usage of the term can be traced back to the writings of an F. Barber in 1988. Google’s Book Ngram viewer confirms that it’s been around since the 80s, experiencing spikes of popularity in the 1990s and 2000s before skyrocketing in the last decade. Wikipedia estimates that “gender critical” goes back to the 1970s, which aligns with the peak of second-wave feminism.

It’s very easy to debunk Cohn’s claim that he created the “gender critical trend”. Perhaps he was a somewhat prominent figure in 2014, but he was far from the only one, and being one somewhat prominent figure does not equate to starting a movement. As far as his supposed coining of the term “gender critical” goes, this is blatantly false. Even if he just so happened to come up with that term on his own in 2014, it had already existed for decades prior to that point, and Cohn, with nearly ten years of experience on this topic under his belt, should know that by now.



If Corinna Cohn’s claims of creating the gender critical movement sound familiar, that’s because this is not the first time a man has tried to take credit for the work of feminists, and women in general. Earlier this year, The Daily Wire posted a video clip promoting Matt Walsh’s film What Is A Woman? to Twitter, purporting that said film had started “a movement to protect women and children from radical gender ideology”. What Is A Woman? was released about a year and a half ago, by which time radical feminists and gender critics as a whole were already at the forefront of the fight against transgenderism, and had been for decades. (Don’t take my word for it; radical feminist Janice Raymond published The Transsexual Empire in 1979!)

Matt Walsh in particular has done this before, too. Kellie-Jay Keen, one of the most prominent figures of the wider trans-critical movement, has shirts in her online store with the dictionary definition of the word woman across them. These are a clear nod to her 2018 campaign which saw the definition plastered on billboards - in fact, in the linked video, she’s even wearing the shirt on the interview. Similar t-shirts would appear in a shop connected to The Daily Wire not long after What Is A Woman? was released, something which has not gone unnoticed by Kellie-Jay Keen herself.

Men have a track record of claiming women’s achievements which goes back centuries and is not just applicable to the modern day fight against transgenderism. If you’ve ever seen paintings of wide-eyed children, you’d likely be able to attribute them to Margaret Keane, but in the 1950s and 60s, you would have believed wholeheartedly that they were the work of her then-husband, Walter. He attributed her work to himself and showed it off under his name, confining Margaret to a room where she would paint for most of the day.

It could be argued that even the oft-repeated MRA myth of “man the hunter” is an example of men taking credit for some of women’s achievements. An argument which posits men as the hunters of game in prehistoric societies, and claims that women foraged and stayed home with children, it’s a fantasy which is usually slung around at feminists, despite increasing evidence that women contributed to hunting just as much as men did.

Simply put, what Corinna Cohn is doing by taking credit for the gender critical movement is nothing new, and is in fact something which men have been doing for years uncountable. He is just the next man to do this, one in a long line of men who have attributed women’s work to themselves out of greed, desire for fame, or no reason other than misogyny. However, he needs to be the last in this line - this centuries-old trend needs to die, and fast.

When the fight against transgenderism is won, what will likely happen is that conservative men, and a handful of men who claim to fight alongside us such as Corinna Cohn, will either take credit for or be credited with its downfall. Feminists on the front lines will not necessarily be erased from history, our activism having been documented all over the internet at this point, but they will be erased from discourse. Men such as Matt Walsh like to say that we feminists are somehow responsible for transgenderism, in an attempt to turn both his followers and fence-sitters against us, despite there being much evidence of us taking the brunt of on and offline transactivist abuse. This is just practice for that discourse.

When men like this claim to be responsible for what we have started, the thing to do is to scream as loud as we possibly can:

NO.

Unfortunately, not enough of us are shouting this. While Cohn was criticized in a couple of Ovarit posts, as well as some of the comments on his own post, there are an equal amount of comments praising him for this very fluffed-up achievement. When someone makes claims as fantastical as Cohn has, we should not take it at face value until we have evidence confirming these claims. So far, Cohn has provided us with very little.

In the coming years, the tide will certainly turn further and we need to push back against narratives such as these much harder than we currently are. Our place in history needs to be rightfully cemented; why not start here?
 
Oh I remember this dude I wrote some about his troubles in the Israel thread (complicated, the other dorx host is the creator of a nice Holy Land blood shedding animation). Jersh went to sperg about the usual on their podcast.
TERF infighting drama is always stupid & lame . 😴
Nah, drama is great

IDGAF who came with Gender Critical. It's a retarded ideology that's inconsistent due to being bound to feminism which is itself a denial of biological realities and a civil/human rights liberal delusion. Yes, yes, feel free to dumb me, but you know I am correct and accurate, you cannot just want biological accuracy on sex, and then ovary-clutch when it's time for sex-based and racial policies.
Objective reality is not an ideology, it simply exists.
 
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>first sentence is "I usually stay out of drama..."
>entire article is a pile of extremely petty drama bullshit about who gets to take credit for coming up with cringe terms like "gender critical"

what a waste of time it was to read all this
 
I read this in full because I don't like Matt Walsh but libs never fail to attack his strongest points.

Matt Walsh in particular has done this before, too. Kellie-Jay Keen, one of the most prominent figures of the wider trans-critical movement, has shirts in her online store with the dictionary definition of the word woman across them
KJK's basic shirt is women's cut only. The blue one is unisex but sparkly. Walsh's is actually unisex and $13.5 cheaper ($34.99, minus 10% newsletter discount, vs. KJK's $45).

Earlier this year, The Daily Wire posted a video clip promoting Matt Walsh’s film What Is A Woman? to Twitter, purporting that said film had started “a movement to protect women and children from radical gender ideology”. What Is A Woman? was released about a year and a half ago, by which time radical feminists and gender critics as a whole were already at the forefront of the fight against transgenderism, and had been for decades. (Don’t take my word for it; radical feminist Janice Raymond published The Transsexual Empire in 1979!)
Yes and? Troons got stronger compared to 1979, while Walsh actually scored some dubs. A less absurd (but still wrong) accusation would be he rode the wave of troon awareness -- sure he did but the field is even, feminists could've done it too. The Transsexual Empire proves radical feminists aren't to blame for troons but they can't take credit for stopping them because they fucking didn't.

Men have a track record of claiming women’s achievements
Which achievements? Walsh takes credit for the work he's doing in the US.
 
The Transsexual Empire proves radical feminists aren't to blame for troons
No it does not.
Feminism is absolutely 100% at fault with transsexualism and guilty of promoting acceptance and tolerance of deviance of all sorts.
Minorities are unable to stand for exclusionary, anti-degeneracy policies, as they understand very well they would come under the lens of the majority and ostracized, so minorities always promote DEI one way or another.
 
I know how the Farms feels about troons, but Corinna Cohn is pretty fucking based for a troon. An odd person? Yes, he would admit that. But he's one of the most intelligent and sanest trans people I'm aware of. His podcast is tiny and kinda low-end, but the content is great.
 
Corinna Cohn is pretty fucking based for a troon
You're very generous and "for a troon" sets an incredibly low bar:
Surgery unshackled me from my body’s urges, but the destruction of my gonads introduced a different type of bondage. From the day of my surgery, I became a medical patient and will remain one for the rest of my life. I must choose between the risks of taking exogenous estrogen, which include venous thromboembolism and stroke, or the risks of taking nothing, which includes degeneration of bone health. In either case, my risk of dementia is higher, a side effect of eschewing testosterone.

What was I seeking for my sacrifice? A feeling of wholeness and perfection. I was still a virgin when I went in for surgery. I mistakenly believed that this made my choice more serious and authentic. I chose an irreversible change before I’d even begun to understand my sexuality. The surgeon deemed my operation a good outcome, but intercourse never became pleasurable. When I tell friends, they’re saddened by the loss, but it’s abstract to me — I cannot grieve the absence of a thing I’ve never had.
This person took the very worst decisions from a very early age and is suffering from more mental issues that one could describe in a post.
I understand the need to appreciate the tranny that had Jersh on his show and is generally OK with GC lunacy, which is a step above transsexualism.
At the same time, these people are mentally ill, severely so, as they decided to chop off functional parts of themselves. They cannot be allowed in any civilized society and their habits should never be normalized.
We have enough proper, heterosexual people speaking against the trans lunacy. We don't need the trannies themselves. They chose their camp. Detransition and fully reject progressivism, and then we can talk, but NOT before that.
 
You're very generous and "for a troon" sets an incredibly low bar:

This person took the very worst decisions from a very early age and is suffering from more mental issues that one could describe in a post.
I understand the need to appreciate the tranny that had Jersh on his show and is generally OK with GC lunacy, which is a step above transsexualism.
At the same time, these people are mentally ill, severely so, as they decided to chop off functional parts of themselves. They cannot be allowed in any civilized society and their habits should never be normalized.
We have enough proper, heterosexual people speaking against the trans lunacy. We don't need the trannies themselves. They chose their camp. Detransition and fully reject progressivism, and then we can talk, but NOT before that.
:story: I listened to the show long before Jersh made his (very surprising) appearance in my podcast feed. Found it through Benjamin Boyce.

If you spend some time listening to Cohn, you'll probably be surprised. He doesn't identify as trans anymore (isn't concerned concerned with labels) and is just trying to live the best life he can having made a self-admitted huge mistake. Never lies and says he's natality female. Has no love for the industry that's doing this to people. Always a hard "no" to childhood transition.

Like it or not, weirdos exist and are going to exist. I don't care that they exist as long as we're not lying about them, tolerating their lies about themselves, or enabling abuse. And Cohn is, happily, a living example to gender cultists about what "gender affirming care" actually is and what it does to people. He's doing more than any traditionalist to fight against this social cancer.

Remember, Josh chose to talk to the hosts. He knows they're honest and not crazy. Or not any crazier than any of us.
 
Feminism is absolutely 100% at fault with transsexualism and guilty of promoting acceptance and tolerance of deviance of all sorts.
It goes beyond that: they are guilty of promoting that idea that biological differences don't really matter and that women shouldn't be subjected to the limitations of their biology.

Mention this anywhere -including here- and you'll see a lot of feminism sperging, but the reality is that even those "based feminists" telling you that a man will always beat a woman in sports because they are stronger than us, will remain silent when you ask them if those differences apply in other areas such as the workplace.
 
Remember, Josh chose to talk to the hosts. He knows they're honest and not crazy
He needs to get his message out to the masses, who are unaware of the ridiculous amount of corporate oppression that this site has to endure for mostly shitposts. Going to more liberal shows that do not marginalize him into some far-right position is good diplomacy from Josh.
Or not any crazier than any of us.
X to doubt. Most people do have quirks, myself included, yes. But I am not quirky enough to self-harm or chop off my beloved dick.
Now, for the weirdos part, yes, they will always exist.
But tolerating them around as if they are exactly as normal as the rest is what leads to societal decay. A society must show it is willing to be intolerant to pure lunacy, and that is not something that's easy or pleasurable to do, just necessary.
Feminism is absolutely 100% at fault with transsexualism
You know, I feel a bit guilty for not elaborating on this, considering we have so many GC ladies.
Beyond the before mentioned feminism selective and opportunistic denial of biological differences between the sexes (when it was convenient and gave women a way to climb the social pyramid), feminism has also consistently shamed men that wanted to maintain the "patriarchy", and forced tolerance for homosexuality and later transsexualism. Combined with getting into the workforce through diversity hiring and into HR positions of power, feminism has constantly tried to marginalize right wing, exclusionary males, as those always were the largest threat to the female sex. Even today in these forums, which are quite right leaning, you will always see that the GC crowd is in average unhappy with more overt right wing attitudes and have appealed to Josh to create a safe space away from the chuds (which admittedly, are often retards that you cannot talk to).
When you see attitudes against trannies from the GC, it's not because trannies are degenerate deviants. It's because they are MALES that are entering female spaces.
When you see attitudes against migrants from the GCs, it's not because they want their ethnic group to not become polluted by foreigner blood; it's because these foreigners are often patriarchal and pose a sexual assault danger to women.
So you can see that if you are a right wing male, you share almost nothing with the TERFs. Your interests are vastly different. The GCs are preoccupied with protecting women and their spaces. They are quite anti-male, often lesbians, and are deeply afraid of a right wing society that's exclusionary in nature.
That doesn't mean we cannot collaborate on doing away with the Ts. But after that, there will be conflicts on gays, borders and social norms, 100% certainty.
 
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He needs to get his message out to the masses, who are unaware of the ridiculous amount of corporate oppression that this site has to endure for mostly shitposts. Going to more liberal shows that do not marginalize him into some far-right position is good diplomacy from Josh.
They're not even that liberal. Cohn is pretty damn libertarian if anything, and his co-host is a very frustrated former liberal who is politically homeless.

The podcast is very small. I'm pretty sure Josh talked to them because they're good-intentioned straight shooters, not for the big audience.
But tolerating them around as if they are exactly as normal as the rest is what leads to societal decay. A society must show it is willing to be intolerant to pure lunacy, and that is not something that's easy or pleasurable to do, just necessary.
Trannies will never be seen as normal no matter what the Blue Cult does. Cohn would never be seen as normal. He's a dude who "presents as female." That's always going to be weird.

And society will not be safe until sane people can articulate why they're right when insane people make crazy claims. They make arguments that are so crazy about such fundamental things that it's hard to argue against them!

We thought for a long time that reality would slap these people in the faces and force them to acknowledge truth, but the cult has advanced too far, and too many people are so rudderless and solipsistic that the cult can grab them by claiming to understand reality. That's the problem, not a lack of sufficient intolerance.
 
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