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I was watching this documentary on the KKK on The History Channel, and at they filmed a Klan meeting. The Grand High Wizard Lord or whatever the fuck his title was brought out an infant, couldn't have been more than a few weeks old, if that -- wearing a full Klan outfit. The hood even had a mask on. After everything in the program -- racial slurs, violence, lynchings, church burnings, etc. -- somehow, that disturbed me the most.
Considering how the child is being raised by a member of the KKK, that can be more disturbing than racial slurs since it means the kid is going to be indoctrinated with racist ideas such as white supremacy and that there is nothing wrong with lynching a non-white individual.
 
The Grand High Wizard Lord or whatever the fuck
I've always wondered about this...the KKK have Dungeons & Dragons-types names for everything, like "Grand High Wizard Dragon," or puns with the word "K" replacing "C," like "the local Klan Koven." I guess it goes with the "secret society" aspect of it?
 
I've always wondered about this...the KKK have Dungeons & Dragons-types names for everything, like "Grand High Wizard Dragon," or puns with the word "K" replacing "C," like "the local Klan Koven." I guess it goes with the "secret society" aspect of it?

Apparently a lot of it came from college fraternities and other "secret" societies like the Shriners. Some of them are even more ridiculous than the Wizards - the original Klan's internal judicial council was called the 'Grand Council of Yahoos'. A lot of their rituals come from a misunderstanding of history - the famous burning cross is supposed to be a recreation of an old Scottish tradition of summoning soldiers to war by burning a cross on a hill, but the Scottish cross would have been a St Andrew's cross.
 
Apparently a lot of it came from college fraternities and other "secret" societies like the Shriners. Some of them are even more ridiculous than the Wizards - the original Klan's internal judicial council was called the 'Grand Council of Yahoos'. A lot of their rituals come from a misunderstanding of history - the famous burning cross is supposed to be a recreation of an old Scottish tradition of summoning soldiers to war by burning a cross on a hill, but the Scottish cross would have been a St Andrew's cross.
this isn't quite correct- the burning cross was used by highland clans to gather the tribe- in the day they used smoking crosses and at night fiery ones. I believe the last time they were used in war was in Canada in the war of 1812 although i vaguely remember hearing about an incident in elgin in the 1820's. From Walter Scott's accounts (writing a generation after the last major clan rising but having spoken to several survivors) it seems to have be a regular cruciform not the st Andrews X.

burnt or black crosses can still be found present in some small rural village games and gala's and this was where i first encountered them.


The Klan's misunderstanding is using it as a religious style icon and a symbol of terror rather than as a practical way to gather men in from across the hills.
 
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I think the Klan intended their use of it to deliberately evocative of that of their ancestors - summoning their clan to battle against their enemies.
 
It's about pride in your Clan

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Congratulations on 20 whole pages of autism! Let's go for 20 more!

Wow - we really suck, don't we?? All of this over something that's not even being all that well-censored, except by corporations who need to go fuck themselves... Yeah - Congrats, indeed.
 
Raising this spergtastic thread from the dead, as I recently had a debate with a friend's mom over the use of the Confederate flag. She believes that the Confederate flag was used to FREE the slaves rather than to preserve the institution of slavery, that the history of the flag was warped in the 1960's during the Civil Rights Movement by "dem ebil libtardz", and that there are not racist conotations to the Confederate flag. She also thinks that if the Confederate flag is no longer going to be raised in public, that the American flag will be taken down and that only ISIS flags will be flying around and America will be doomed (which is a load of bullshit in of itself, especially considering the fact that all she is an extreme Conservative/Republican that only watches Fox News and is actually pretty racist as fuck (against black people, Mexicans, and Muslims) and tries to shove her views down everyone's throats). My friend's much more moderate though.
 
Raising this spergtastic thread from the dead, as I recently had a debate with a friend's mom over the use of the Confederate flag. She believes that the Confederate flag was used to FREE the slaves rather than to preserve the institution of slavery, that the history of the flag was warped in the 1960's during the Civil Rights Movement by "dem ebil libtardz", and that there are not racist conotations to the Confederate flag. She also thinks that if the Confederate flag is no longer going to be raised in public, that the American flag will be taken down and that only ISIS flags will be flying around and America will be doomed (which is a load of bullshit in of itself, especially considering the fact that all she is an extreme Conservative/Republican that only watches Fox News and is actually pretty racist as fuck (against black people, Mexicans, and Muslims) and tries to shove her views down everyone's throats). My friend's much more moderate though.

Post what your face was literally like when she said that.
 
Post what your face was literally like when she said that.
Not going to take that route again. I will tell you how I responded to it though
I was more rolling my eyes and trying my hardest to be polite and attempted to pull off a facade where I tried to not come off as annoyed (albeit said facade was see-through). As a history buff, seeing such historical inaccuracies is pretty much facepalmworthy.
 
Those are biased liberal sources.
Provide me some sources that say otherwise, and make sure they are not biased conservative sources. The flag seems like it has a subjective view of interpretation, and depending on how you interpret it, along with your views, the interpretation of the flag is pretty damn subjective.
 
Provide me some sources that say otherwise, and make sure they are not biased conservative sources. The flag seems like it has a subjective view of interpretation, and depending on how you interpret it, along with your views, the interpretation of the flag is pretty damn subjective.

Okay.

the Confederate flag was used to FREE the slaves rather than to preserve the institution of slavery... the history of the flag was warped in the 1960's during the Civil Rights Movement by "dem ebil libtardz"... there are not racist conotations to the Confederate flag

Source ; Dirk Blood Storm King, not a conservative.
 
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